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This is a country that elected George W Bush and Donald Trump once. We should never be in shock when America votes against its best interests.
It could happen, even if he gets indirect three more times. It could happen, if even if he sits in jail during Election Day.
I will do my part and vote for Joe Biden because I don't want to tell my kids and grandkids that I was complicit in the destruction of America.
Here is a new piece by forecaster Harry Enten in CNN
What should arguably be more amazing is that despite most Americans agreeing that Trumps two indictments thus far were warranted, he remains competitive in a potential rematch with President Joe Biden. A poll out last week from Marquette University Law School had Biden and Trump tied percentage-wise (with a statistically insignificant few more respondents choosing Trump).
The Marquette poll is one of a number of surveys showing Trump either tied or ahead of Biden. The ABC News/Washington Post poll has published three surveys of the matchup between the two, and Trump has come out ahead albeit within the margin of error every time. Other pollsters have shown Biden only narrowly ahead.
To put that in perspective, Trump never led in a single national poll that met CNNs standards for publication for the entirety of the 2020 campaign. Biden was up by high single digits in the late summer of 2019. Biden is up by maybe a point in the average of all 2024 polls today.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/30/politics/trump-second-term-president-election-2024/index.html
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Casady1
(2,133 posts)is all he needed to win in 2020.
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)thank God President Biden got 81 million the most of any president in the history of America. 74 million idiots are still out there. Yes some passed away but still thats an ugly number. Every one of those 81 million have to vote again for president Biden.
dalton99a
(94,115 posts)Assume nothing.
Do not underestimate the assholes
FalloutShelter
(14,465 posts)The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.
― William Butler Yeats
Lovie777
(22,972 posts)even when shithole goes to prison, although committing treason disqualifies running for office,
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)And very unlikely he gets indicted for "insurrection".
edhopper
(37,370 posts)Trump would loose the popular vote, maybe by a wider margin than last time. But he only needs two more voter suppression States to win the Presidency.
edisdead
(3,396 posts)The people on democratic underground every day?
edhopper
(37,370 posts)Not so much here, I have read and talked to people in other places that Trump can't beat Biden. But that is only the popular vote and not the EC. I was referring to people in general.
It is astonishing to me how many Americans still would vote for Trump after all he did.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Its the great unmentionable in American political media
one side cheats like theres no tomorrow for them
and there really wouldnt be a tomorrow if not for the cheating. MTG
dick pix
Santos
serial liar
past President
indicted traitor, twice impeached for cause
tell me thats not signs of ducked up and broken?
And of course the other unmentionables
.only ever two horse race, one horse lame cant happen!
mass media sucking in the cash so regularly makes mass media in mass conflict
hate speech is legal
etc.
Democracy isnt maybe completely broken, but it obviously didnt come with enough rust protection and the warranty is expired!! Get it to the shop, stat!
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)The electorate is fairly evenly split. Likely 3% either way. Election interference has nothing to do with it.
dpibel
(3,943 posts)Right?
Number of self-identified Dems v Repubs is about the number you cite.
But that doesn't contemplate the equal, or slightly higher, number who identify as Independent.
As for election interference, I suppose that depends how you define it. Is it, say, gerrymandering in direct opposition to a Supreme Court ruling?
Is it voter suppression via purging voter rolls based on shaky name matches?
Or is is some very specific thing you have in mind that doesn't happen?
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)I expect this race will be closer.
Irish_Dem
(81,263 posts)There will always be ruthless sociopaths who try to grab power and fame.
But it was always up We The People to stop them.
Now half of Americans love criminals as leaders.
Just like China, Russia, North Korea.
GhostHunter22
(95 posts)No board or company would think of hiring him - even a manager's job at a Burger King would be out of the question with his criminal indictments.
And yet, even with all that is demonstrably wrong with him (behaviorally and emotionally), he still qualifies to become arguably the most powerful man in the World.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,238 posts)I was ready for Madam President
spanone
(141,609 posts)LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)Emile
(42,289 posts)Response to Xanchez (Original post)
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GP6971
(38,013 posts)Swede
(39,492 posts)Welcome. I think?
PCIntern
(28,366 posts)Torchlight
(6,829 posts)Good luck.
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)His charges will catch up with him and Bidens numbers will go up as the election draws near.
Johnny2X2X
(24,207 posts)Anything can happen.
But this article is poorly researched and just plain old bad. The link they provide to polls showing Trump tied or ahead is a link to polling from January, 2023. The major polling in the last month is all for Biden. You see Biden ahead in polls like Youguv, Ipsos, Morning Consult, and Quinnipiac. The polls we know and recognize. You have to look for new and totally unknown polls like Premise and Ohio Northern University (never heard of this school) to find Trump tied or ahead.
Biden is up by several points right now and Trum p's legal problems are only going to grow while Biden's economy is taking off. It is possible that Trump wins, but I think it's much more possible Biden wins in a 10 point plus blowout than Trump wins the electoral college.
Mad_Machine76
(24,957 posts)He always has a theoretical chance of winning again unless he is dead or is locked up- although then there will be endless stupid "debates" on him running or serving while in jail/prison
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)He will lose.
leftstreet
(40,680 posts)Stupid article
niyad
(132,440 posts)worth of free overage, NO critical, actual reporting, fawning and slobbering over him. YOU CREATED THIS MONSTER.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)Up to then it's hypothetical. Right now I sense there are a lot of people reasonably concerned about his age who are withholding enthusiasm until they have to get on board.
tritsofme
(19,900 posts)I dont see how it could possibly make a difference to anyone
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,847 posts)ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)Poiuyt
(18,272 posts)No matter who wins the Republican nomination, it will be very a close race. That's just the nature of American politics today. I don't think we'll ever see a real landslide again.
Considering what he's accomplished so far, Biden should be up 70-30 over Trump, but he's not. Trump's legal problems will probably sway enough independents to Biden, but I worry that a lot of voters will sit this one out.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)... up front and not in clickbait headlines which is what a lot of CNN has turned into lately
RANDYWILDMAN
(3,163 posts)of propping up that man is still astounding, by ALL accounts he should not have even been giving a minute of even handed coverage, yet he is and that is their fault
Biden and Hilary not only have to get more votes they did, they have to overcome the massive media blitz of an idiot, who, idiots and racists and cultists love.
Our media has done nothing but enable TFG and it's disgusting and we will look back in history and remember that this time the media went full fascist.....
Get out and vote...but don't forget all the garbage this media spewed, when they could have gotten rid of TFG by just being honest
erpowers
(9,445 posts)I think this article is BS. People are writing these polls in a way that will make this race seem closer than it seems. Democrats just need to get out to vote.