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AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 10:52 AM Jul 2023

COVID is not over

COVID is not over.
These are the statistics from the last week.

Hospital admissions 🆙
Emergency room visits 🆙
Wastewater levels 🆙
Testing positive for Covid infections 🆙

Mask up. Be safe. Stay safe ❤️

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COVID is not over (Original Post) AntivaxHunters Jul 2023 OP
just got two boxes of masks for fall - I hear its going to be the hot accessory of the season Blues Heron Jul 2023 #1
Look into a P100 mask AntivaxHunters Jul 2023 #3
i just get boxes of korean kf94s -they have kept me Covid free so far knock on wood Blues Heron Jul 2023 #8
Get one now before the rush! Bobstandard Jul 2023 #29
Nope, Delphinus Jul 2023 #35
Like Delphinus said with a little extra emphasis. Definately not. Prairie_Seagull Aug 2023 #60
Friends of my adult son just canceled a birthday gathering Diamond_Dog Jul 2023 #2
Ugh... AntivaxHunters Jul 2023 #4
I got my latest booster in May, I hope it's still good🤞🏻 Walleye Jul 2023 #5
Should be...6 -8 month's coverage with current boosters PortTack Jul 2023 #15
I have been lucky so far Walleye Jul 2023 #21
Good for you!! PortTack Jul 2023 #53
I got my booster in January and got covid in Mar for the first time. Bev54 Jul 2023 #23
Yikes Walleye Jul 2023 #25
I'm sure you've heard it before... Pluvious Jul 2023 #37
Yes but I thought it might give me some immunity as well, especially in my city in Canada Bev54 Jul 2023 #45
Yep, just did a shoot for a show I can't name (NDA), and we were missing some cast members - GhostHunter22 Jul 2023 #6
Welcome to DU! Delphinus Jul 2023 #36
Thank you kindly. GhostHunter22 Jul 2023 #50
Yep. I got it last month. progressoid Jul 2023 #7
Of course you can get it. Igel Jul 2023 #11
But you probably won't die Bobstandard Jul 2023 #26
I can only point to my own case, where I am on immuno-suppressing meds Otto_Harper Jul 2023 #30
You could have been... Pluvious Jul 2023 #39
That was my first thought, except Otto_Harper Jul 2023 #51
Glad to hear it !! (nt) Pluvious Jul 2023 #54
Two shots, two boosters and colorado_ufo Jul 2023 #28
A fully-vaxxed friend is recovering from covid contracted recently. It is NOT niyad Jul 2023 #9
COVID will never be "over" Zeitghost Jul 2023 #10
Covid has proven to be more adaptable than influenza. speak easy Jul 2023 #13
Yep, ruined our long-anticipated overseas trip cilla4progress Jul 2023 #12
Oh boy...I'm so sorry! That would be really disappointing PortTack Jul 2023 #16
Yep. cilla4progress Jul 2023 #24
Take it easy on yourself!! PortTack Jul 2023 #52
Heat people staying indoors Sympthsical Jul 2023 #14
Yes Rebl2 Jul 2023 #20
Yeah, they're kind of the canaries for this Sympthsical Jul 2023 #27
Was going to Rebl2 Jul 2023 #33
Xmas of last year was at my daughter's house. 3 of 6 ended with covid. Myself included, 3 escaped PortTack Jul 2023 #17
Noticeably more masks since the reports of an uptick last week Blues Heron Jul 2023 #18
Here is a comparison link for flu tracker -interesting how different the curves are Blues Heron Jul 2023 #19
I haven't worn a mask in well over a year Shrek Jul 2023 #22
There are more people I personally know that have or have had covid in the last month than wiggs Jul 2023 #31
Went to a very busy hospital for tests this morning, then to a big box store. LuckyCharms Jul 2023 #32
Sweet Zeus Pluvious Jul 2023 #41
When I was sitting in the registration area, no one was masked. Maybe LuckyCharms Jul 2023 #42
That's beyond depressing... Pluvious Jul 2023 #43
Yes, very depressing. LuckyCharms Jul 2023 #44
I'm Uncle Sam... Pluvious Jul 2023 #49
It will never be "over" geardaddy Jul 2023 #34
I started masking again. ananda Jul 2023 #38
Hold on there. Know your risk. Warpy Jul 2023 #40
If all you are worried about is surviving the acute infection, Ms. Toad Jul 2023 #46
never have stopped wearing my mask in inclosed public places . AllaN01Bear Jul 2023 #47
I'm still wearing my mask... LPBBEAR Jul 2023 #48
I called our local Pima County Dept of Health last week and asked about the new liberalla Jul 2023 #55
I've never stopped masking EnergizedLib Jul 2023 #56
Never stopped masking indoors unless Very Few, or no people like in a hallway... electric_blue68 Jul 2023 #57
My wife is a front line health care professional. hunter Jul 2023 #58
Are authorities still reporting death rates and numbers due to COVID? SYFROYH Aug 2023 #59
 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
3. Look into a P100 mask
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 11:07 AM
Jul 2023

They're superior and cost roughly $35 dollars.
I highly recommend this one and it's on sale right now for $27. I use this one myself. It's incredibly comfortable.
https://a.co/d/6oATyHp]

Blues Heron

(8,834 posts)
8. i just get boxes of korean kf94s -they have kept me Covid free so far knock on wood
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 11:33 AM
Jul 2023

thanks for the link will check it out

Bobstandard

(2,297 posts)
29. Get one now before the rush!
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 12:22 PM
Jul 2023

These will also come in handy when the atmosphere is choked with toxic smoke from wildfires burning through cities. (Too dark?)

Prairie_Seagull

(4,688 posts)
60. Like Delphinus said with a little extra emphasis. Definately not.
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 12:23 PM
Aug 2023

I have a tenant farmer who farms my alfalfa. One a particularly smoky day. I took him a mask on this open air tractor. He said thanks a put it on. Who knows how long he kept it on but I am sure I made my point. Many around here are RWs.

Pluvious

(5,394 posts)
37. I'm sure you've heard it before...
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 01:00 PM
Jul 2023

The shot isn’t for immunity, but to improve your chances to avoid Long Covid or worse

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
45. Yes but I thought it might give me some immunity as well, especially in my city in Canada
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 01:35 PM
Jul 2023

had much fewer cases. I was very careful for a long time as were others but went to my granddaughter's city hockey playoffs and there were more people than usual at these games. I was the only one in the family to get it then, the others had all had it last year some time and I did not. I guess it was my turn.

 

GhostHunter22

(95 posts)
6. Yep, just did a shoot for a show I can't name (NDA), and we were missing some cast members -
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 11:16 AM
Jul 2023

because of them having contracted COVID.

Igel

(37,535 posts)
11. Of course you can get it.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 11:41 AM
Jul 2023

There's no current or valid claim that vaccinations prevent infection.

The early claims that vaccination would prevent infection were overstating the case.

Bobstandard

(2,297 posts)
26. But you probably won't die
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 12:19 PM
Jul 2023

If you get infected after vaccination the evidence is that you’re much less likely to be hospitalized or die as a result.

Statics seem to show that vaccination prevents infection in many people though some argue that correlation is not causation. I have friends who point to the fact that some people are infected after vaccination as evidence that they don’t work. Potentially fatal logic.

Otto_Harper

(822 posts)
30. I can only point to my own case, where I am on immuno-suppressing meds
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 12:30 PM
Jul 2023

But, went to a large music festival (participant in the show), stayed masked almost all the time with N95 (US mfg), and was boosted for the 5th or 6th time a month and a half before I went. I had occasion to have spoken with several people who then went home early with Covid, and shared tables in the dining hall with folks who, when they got home were Covid positive. And yet, I, of all of them, had no signs of illness and half a dozen negative home tests, waiting for the shoe to drop, that never did.

Pluvious

(5,394 posts)
39. You could have been...
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 01:03 PM
Jul 2023

In the pool of the lucky people who can be totally asymptomatic

( but then you might pass it on to others around you, which you might notice? )

Otto_Harper

(822 posts)
51. That was my first thought, except
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 03:47 PM
Jul 2023

No one at home caught anything from me after I came home, suggesting that either the masking, the booster, or both prevented sufficient viral load from developing that any disease was apparent, or transmissible.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
10. COVID will never be "over"
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 11:40 AM
Jul 2023

At least not until science progresses to cure/eradicate highly contagious respiratory viruses like COVID, the Flu, RSV etc.

I cautioned people from day one of the pandemic that "over" was never going to be in the cards.

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
13. Covid has proven to be more adaptable than influenza.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 11:44 AM
Jul 2023

... and that is saying something.

cilla4progress

(26,525 posts)
12. Yep, ruined our long-anticipated overseas trip
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 11:44 AM
Jul 2023

to Scotland in June! Frick - all that $$* and had to bail out and come home early!

Friend just flew to MN and got it!

1st time for both of us!

We had a false sense of security. 4th booster /6th shot before we went. BUT as no one (literally - except maybe 20 people) at SeaTac, Heathrow, or Glasgow airports were masked, we didn't. Fatal error (well, not fatal to us, but fatal to our trip, hopes and dreams!)

I wonder how many others we encountered in our travels got it. I know 3 others of the 28 of us on the tour did!

*tour reimbursed us, but not air travel!

Sympthsical

(10,966 posts)
14. Heat people staying indoors
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 11:52 AM
Jul 2023

People staying indoors = spread of illness.

Covid is endemic. It's just something that's going to have to be dealt with from now on.

Rebl2

(17,738 posts)
20. Yes
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 12:08 PM
Jul 2023

It’s here and staying from my understanding and will still change over time. I don’t believe they ever said the vaccine would keep you from getting it, but it would make it less severe. Have also noticed when you start seeing it in nursing homes, you know it’s out in the community at large. Have experienced this with my mother who is in a nursing home. She got it again back in the late winter early spring even though she has had all vaccines. It wasn’t severe.

Sympthsical

(10,966 posts)
27. Yeah, they're kind of the canaries for this
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 12:20 PM
Jul 2023

Vulnerable populations.

My partner's currently on an Alaskan cruise with college friends (I couldn't go because I have class/finals to deal with this week, boo).

I kept joking, "It's fine. Enjoy your Legionnaires!" They did all have to take Covid tests before boarding, I believe. But it was like "Bring your own test results from home," which is practically scientific. He gets back on Friday, and I'm going to be side-eyeing every cough and sniffle.

I'm about to have a rare couple weeks off myself, and if he gets me sick, I swear to god . . .

Rebl2

(17,738 posts)
33. Was going to
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 12:44 PM
Jul 2023

say that they are kind of like canaries and I think schools are too.
When I hear cruise ship vacation all I can think of is Norovirus.

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
17. Xmas of last year was at my daughter's house. 3 of 6 ended with covid. Myself included, 3 escaped
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 12:00 PM
Jul 2023

I directly credit the vaccine.

Shrek

(4,425 posts)
22. I haven't worn a mask in well over a year
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 12:15 PM
Jul 2023

I don't yet see any reason why I would go back to it.

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
31. There are more people I personally know that have or have had covid in the last month than
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 12:31 PM
Jul 2023

at any time during the pandemic. Friends and family and clients, socal.

LuckyCharms

(22,645 posts)
32. Went to a very busy hospital for tests this morning, then to a big box store.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 12:40 PM
Jul 2023

Probably saw 300 people in total for those two visits.

One, ONE person was wearing a mask (at the hospital) and it was a surgical mask.

I don't care, I had my N95 on the whole time I was inside both of those places.

I will continue to wear it.

78 year old in-law recently got Covid for the second time, and now, he's having lingering symptoms.

Pluvious

(5,394 posts)
41. Sweet Zeus
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 01:15 PM
Jul 2023

We’re not going to make it, are we

What a failed stupid species we are ☹️

LuckyCharms

(22,645 posts)
42. When I was sitting in the registration area, no one was masked. Maybe
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 01:26 PM
Jul 2023

30 people just in that one room (encountered a lot more people though in other parts of the hospital). I was the only one masked.

Two notable things about this:

1) Guy behind me was hacking up a lung for 10 minutes without even covering his mouth (I could see him in a reflection of a glass pane) before he went in for his test.

2) A guy maybe in his 70's and his wife sitting 3 feet to the side of me. Guy was giving me the hairy eyeball. His wife and he were quietly conversing and I heard him say "I'm not getting anymore Covid shots. I've already had two of the goddamn things".

Yep, a "person" is smart, but "people" are really stupid.

Pluvious

(5,394 posts)
43. That's beyond depressing...
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 01:32 PM
Jul 2023

The fact I see more GAMBLERS masking in a poker tournament than you witnessed in a GD hospital waiting room just boggles my mind

( I’m in Los Angeles, fwiw )

Warpy

(114,614 posts)
40. Hold on there. Know your risk.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 01:07 PM
Jul 2023
https://www.covidactnow.org Click on "county" to load the map by county. Click on your county to know your risk.

Right now, levels in most areas are very low. A 17% increase from the lowest level is significant but not worth panicking over.

If you've had the shots and the omicron booster, you should be fine.

And remember, only an N-95 mask will protect you. All other masks will protect the people around you if you're shedding droplets full of covid virus, but they don't do much to protect you from everybody else. Non N-95 masks work only when everybody is masked.

It's probably still courteous to wear masks around infants and old folks.



Ms. Toad

(38,634 posts)
46. If all you are worried about is surviving the acute infection,
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 01:44 PM
Jul 2023

and you're vaccinated, you should be fine.

Unfortunately, what far too many people fail to understand, is that the acute infection is the tip of the iceberg. What we know about long COVID is in the infancy, because the focus was on getting people through the initial infection alive. In an average risk population, at one year post infection, 59% of those with COVID were found to have organ damage (visible on imaging) to one of 7 organs which were studied.

That, alone, ought to motivate people to stop focusing solely on surviving the acute infection.

But it won't. People want this to be over - and are determined to ignore any evidence ot the contrary.

Doctors are also not identifying a significant portion of people with long COVID because they are not trained well. I have long COVID - which the doctor who hospitalized me for pancreaatitis attributed to (non-existent) alcoholism. Had I not pursued the matter, my case would not be identified.

Your information on masking is wrong. All masking provides some protection for those around you. And while genuine N-95/KF-94 masks which are fitted properly can be relied on to protect others without much additional thought, there are other masks provide equivalent protection. Two-layer 600 TPI cotton masks well-fitted masks are every bit as effective as N-95 masks at protecting others. Three layer fabric sandwich masks (cotton on the outside/a different fabric on the inside) provide electrostatic filtering which eliminates the need for such a tight weave in the cotton - and, if well-fitted, are also as effective as N-95 masks at protecting others.

Surgical/procedure masks are garbage - largely because none of them fit without gaps. If they could be fitted properly they would provide more protection (but still not as much as N-95/KF 94 or carefully chosen cotton masks).

LPBBEAR

(658 posts)
48. I'm still wearing my mask...
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 02:31 PM
Jul 2023

and will continue to do so until some miracle of medical science provides a complete solution to ending this crap. If I am going to die I would prefer it to be because of natural causes and not because of some ahole redneck anti-vaxxer maskhole doing it to me.

BTW, I have not been sick since before Covid. Masks DO work.

Its very unfortunate that some of "us" are passing away because of it. Am I sorry that more of "them" are passing away than us?

Not one damn bit.

liberalla

(11,088 posts)
55. I called our local Pima County Dept of Health last week and asked about the new
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 08:39 PM
Jul 2023

Covid booster being developed and if they've heard when it may be ready... they didn't know for certain but thought it likely by the end of Sept. That's what I'm waiting for.

EnergizedLib

(3,034 posts)
56. I've never stopped masking
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 09:41 PM
Jul 2023

I’ve been doing so since March 2020 and will not conform to any societal pressure.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
57. Never stopped masking indoors unless Very Few, or no people like in a hallway...
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 10:10 PM
Jul 2023

while incidences are lower, they go up go back to masking probably even then. Usually distancing.. as I can.
Avoiding big crowds so probably missing some events I'd like to go to ( 😑 ) but been avoiding the past 3 years.

Have gotten all vaxxes, and boosters. Due for one in Late Summer, or The Fall.

Perhaps some good luck, as well.


Good Luck to all! 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞


hunter

(40,688 posts)
58. My wife is a front line health care professional.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 11:09 PM
Jul 2023

It was as awful as you might imagine. Patients died.

She was notified she'd been exposed to COVID Friday.

Back to the daily testing and all the precautions again...



Our vaccines are up to date, so there's that.

SYFROYH

(34,214 posts)
59. Are authorities still reporting death rates and numbers due to COVID?
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 12:13 PM
Aug 2023

Those are the numbers I want to know.
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