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demmiblue

(39,939 posts)
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:08 PM Aug 2023

Ron DeSantis just sent a letter to Kamala Harris requesting a meeting to discuss Florida's new...

1. @RonDeSantis just sent a letter to @KamalaHarris requesting a meeting to discuss Florida's new Black history curriculum

DeSantis said he would bring along William Allen, who helped write the curriculum

Who is William Allen?

We took a deep dive

And it's a WILD ride







Pfft... fuck you.




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Ron DeSantis just sent a letter to Kamala Harris requesting a meeting to discuss Florida's new... (Original Post) demmiblue Aug 2023 OP
Better bone up, Ron gratuitous Aug 2023 #1
Yep, I want to see him pronounce it wrong to her face Walleye Aug 2023 #10
First sentence is a lie snowybirdie Aug 2023 #2
I looked it up because it was preposterous. Grokenstein Aug 2023 #45
It's called doubling down on racism and stupidity. brush Aug 2023 #3
She should tell him she would love to come to Florida Mr.Bill Aug 2023 #4
Does he have a clue about Kamala's education pedigree? malaise Aug 2023 #17
The end of the Desantis run Casady1 Aug 2023 #5
Like Christie hugging Obama underpants Aug 2023 #30
I imagine he thinks he can "outsmart" VP Harris and make her look bad. emulatorloo Aug 2023 #41
From the first sentence musette_sf Aug 2023 #6
Here is the rest about William Allen: demmiblue Aug 2023 #7
Kidnapping, huh? stuck in the middle Aug 2023 #11
Thanks for this. /nt IcyPeas Aug 2023 #12
Allen's Black. intheflow Aug 2023 #18
Its a niche, there will always be demand in right wing circles for such folks jcgoldie Aug 2023 #36
You had me at " chairman of Reagan's Civil Rights Commission" underpants Aug 2023 #28
I hope our VP gives this all the attention it deserves EYESORE 9001 Aug 2023 #8
Wish I could write that return letter to this idiot and he's my gov. Sigh. n/t SheilaAnn Aug 2023 #9
What An Impudent Little Twit The Magistrate Aug 2023 #13
Inappropriate tone of a man in deep trouble bucolic_frolic Aug 2023 #14
Governor, set up a meeting with Dr. Miguel A. Cardona, US secretary of education Walleye Aug 2023 #15
Who is William Allen? Another Clarence Thomas and Candice Owens. No one should legitimize the JohnSJ Aug 2023 #16
More about william allen in this post... Cha Aug 2023 #20
Thanks Cha JohnSJ Aug 2023 #34
It sounds to me like he wants to Cha Aug 2023 #19
I am sure he does. Plus the letter is insulting to her in many ways. scarletlib Aug 2023 #39
+ VP Kamala's Response.. Cha Aug 2023 #40
May, 2023....... the states with the best school systems, in order, are Massachusetts, Connecticut, riversedge Aug 2023 #21
Reply: lpbk2713 Aug 2023 #22
you do understand how he'll work this? onethatcares Aug 2023 #23
Yup, a no win trap... She is smart and will figure something out. Like telling HIM to come to the mitch96 Aug 2023 #25
good idea onethatcares Aug 2023 #31
I'm in Florida and would be glad to see him HUMILIATED in public. He's such a dickwad. nt mitch96 Aug 2023 #33
I'm in St Pete onethatcares Aug 2023 #35
I would respond with I thought you were running for President. Not VP. LiberalFighter Aug 2023 #43
I think she should decline. It's a political stunt. Send a historian, teachers that are against it tulipsandroses Aug 2023 #24
William Allen sounds like a security risk. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #26
DeSantis thinks he can set up the VP and score points. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #27
She should agree under the caveat Takket Aug 2023 #29
I love MVP Harris' response to this silly letter LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #32
This is her splendid response... Hekate Aug 2023 #37
William Allen... 2naSalit Aug 2023 #38
I thought he was running for President. Not VP. LiberalFighter Aug 2023 #42
The letter is DeSantis all over lanlady Aug 2023 #44

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Better bone up, Ron
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:14 PM
Aug 2023

First thing I'd suggest is learning to pronounce the Vice President's name.

snowybirdie

(6,747 posts)
2. First sentence is a lie
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:15 PM
Aug 2023

Florida has some of the lowest paid teachers in the nation. And lowest unemployment payments to residents. Screw him.

Grokenstein

(6,424 posts)
45. I looked it up because it was preposterous.
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 05:14 PM
Aug 2023
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education

Yep, Flaw'duh is #1--in higher education. (They average it against pre-K through 12th grade, where it ranks fourteenth, which also seems unlikely.) I question the methodology here, but DeSantis' claims that his policies accomplished that ranking are laughable. As The Littlest Mob Boss continues to wreak havoc, that ranking will drop faster than teachers are already abandoning the state.
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
3. It's called doubling down on racism and stupidity.
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:16 PM
Aug 2023

No way to justify teaching enslaved human beings benefited from being enslaved.

Can't get more racist than that.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
4. She should tell him she would love to come to Florida
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:16 PM
Aug 2023

and discuss education with someone who knows something about it, but that wouldn't be him.

And how can you be number one in education when teachers are leaving the state?

malaise

(297,900 posts)
17. Does he have a clue about Kamala's education pedigree?
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:30 PM
Aug 2023


And does he really believe he can summon the VP to a meeting.
Fuck off fool.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
41. I imagine he thinks he can "outsmart" VP Harris and make her look bad.
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 04:38 PM
Aug 2023

He’s a fool if he thinks that though.

musette_sf

(10,502 posts)
6. From the first sentence
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:16 PM
Aug 2023
Florida is the number one state in the nation for education.


this is 100% bullshit.

demmiblue

(39,939 posts)
7. Here is the rest about William Allen:
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:18 PM
Aug 2023
1. @RonDeSantis just sent a letter to @KamalaHarris requesting a meeting to discuss Florida's new Black history curriculum

DeSantis said he would bring along William Allen, who helped write the curriculum

Who is William Allen?

We took a deep dive

And it's a WILD ride

🧵 Image

2. Allen has a history of making incendiary remarks and promoting right-wing ideology

In 1989, as chairman of Reagan's Civil Rights Commission, Allen gave a talk at an anti-gay conference titled “Blacks? Animals? Homosexuals? What is a Minority?”

popular.info/p/meet-the-sch…

3. In the speech, Allen said creating legal protections for minority groups “is the beginning of the evil of reducing American blacks to an equality with animals and then seducing other groups to seek the same charitable treatment.''

4. At the time, the rest of the Commission denounced the speech for being ''disgusting and unnecessarily inflammatory.'' When the Commission held a vote to condemn the speech, Allen "was the only member of the commission to vote in behalf of himself."

popular.info/p/meet-the-sch…

5. Allen was also charged with kidnapping a 14-year-old girl from a reservation. There was a custody battle between her birth mother and a white couple that wanted to adopt her

“Allen contends that the girl wants to leave the reservation, though the mother has formal custody”

6. Following pressure from the Commission, Allen eventually apologized. But even then, he said he would “not assume responsibility'' for the events. He also refused to step down, and instead called for the resignation of everyone on the Commission.

7. More recently, Allen has been an outspoken critic of efforts to promote diversity.

Accepting the “whole idea of diversity and identity,” Allen says, “is apartheid.” Image

8. There is a lot more on Allen and other members of the work group that created Florida's new Black history curriculum in today's Popular Information.

popular.info/p/meet-the-sch…

9. This platform is controlled by a mercurial billionaire who uses it to promote right-wing ideology and conspiracy theories.

I recommend getting accountability journalism directly by subscribing to Popular Information.

It's free to sign up.

popular.info/subscribe

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1686349939725492224.html

intheflow

(30,249 posts)
18. Allen's Black.
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:30 PM
Aug 2023

And obviously hates himself and his race if he's calling DEI work "apartheid."

"Apartheid" = Being apart
"Inclusion" = Joining together.

William Allen is one stupid dude.

jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
36. Its a niche, there will always be demand in right wing circles for such folks
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 03:11 PM
Aug 2023

Candace Owens will always have a job making white racists feel good about their hateful perspectives.

underpants

(197,160 posts)
28. You had me at " chairman of Reagan's Civil Rights Commission"
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:46 PM
Aug 2023

I lived through those days. The main point of Reagan’s administration was - shut up and sit down! The old white men are back in charge!

EYESORE 9001

(29,880 posts)
8. I hope our VP gives this all the attention it deserves
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:19 PM
Aug 2023

Shouldn’t take more than 5 microseconds.

Walleye

(45,400 posts)
15. Governor, set up a meeting with Dr. Miguel A. Cardona, US secretary of education
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:28 PM
Aug 2023

Explain your curriculum to him

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
16. Who is William Allen? Another Clarence Thomas and Candice Owens. No one should legitimize the
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:29 PM
Aug 2023

racism of these jackasses, and meeting with these autocratic THUGS, would do just that

riversedge

(81,521 posts)
21. May, 2023....... the states with the best school systems, in order, are Massachusetts, Connecticut,
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:38 PM
Aug 2023





May, 2023....... the states with the best school systems, in order, are Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Delaware, and Maryland. Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maryland are all in both the states with the highest educational attainment and the states with the best school systems.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/best-states-for-education

onethatcares

(17,010 posts)
23. you do understand how he'll work this?
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:39 PM
Aug 2023

If VP Harris doesn't respond, he'll tell his next groupies that she was to afraid to discuss with him.

if VP Harris does respond, he'll just tell his next groupies how wrong she was no matter what she says.

he's a snake just like the constrictors released into the Glades, Never trust a snake.


mitch96

(15,873 posts)
25. Yup, a no win trap... She is smart and will figure something out. Like telling HIM to come to the
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:43 PM
Aug 2023

Vice Prez office in Washington to talk and make him wait till he is fuming....
m

onethatcares

(17,010 posts)
31. good idea
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:53 PM
Aug 2023

but he's gonna use our Florida tax dollars to go there.

He has a hard time following the rules.

mitch96

(15,873 posts)
33. I'm in Florida and would be glad to see him HUMILIATED in public. He's such a dickwad. nt
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:58 PM
Aug 2023

tulipsandroses

(8,298 posts)
24. I think she should decline. It's a political stunt. Send a historian, teachers that are against it
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 02:40 PM
Aug 2023

That’s who he should have the discussion with, if he truly wants to have honest dialogue. He doesn’t, he wants to use it to revive his failing campaign.

He has people in his own party against this foolishness. He should have a meeting with them.

2naSalit

(103,805 posts)
38. William Allen...
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 03:29 PM
Aug 2023

Token black person works as a prof at some university or other. Saw him on some news show this weekend, reminds me of the "999" guy only not so much of a used car salesman type. He seems strange is all I can say.

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