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https://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2023/08/new-trump-indictment-trump-didnt-give.htmlOne thing that has always bugged the shit out of me with the reaction of Donald Trump, who really was president of the United States for a weird, fucked-up period of time, to the results of the 2020 election. It's something that has bugged lots of people and it's something that others have said but deserves to be stated again in this new, post-third indictment context. So I'm not treading new ground when I say this: the easiest way to see that Trump knew that he lost the 2020 election is that he only ever says that his election was "stolen."
See, if you gave a single fuck about "election integrity" or some such shit, you'd have to insist that the whole goddamned election was screwed up and everyone who got elected did so unfairly, including any Republicans. But even in that case, you'd think that Trump would have made the play because Democrats kept the House and Senate. If the election was all kinds of fucked with cheating and machine hacks and shady workers, if Republican area ballots were stolen or Democratic area ballots were illegally cast multiple times, then that's the case you make. You'd say all of it was fucked, including local races, including ballot initiatives, the whole damn thing. Toss it out and do it again.
By not insisting on these broad-based election shenanigans, but instead absolutely ignoring every other race (except for some late in the game concerns about the Georgia Senate races), Trump and his legal team were saying something that was simply impossible. If Trump votes were thrown out, then that meant other votes were, but Trump insisted that some people just voted for president and nothing else. Indeed, he insisted that dead people voted for Joe Biden and no one else. But there was no evidence of that. It would have had to be a massive fraud scheme with precise details and many different ways of going about it, overvoting for Biden in some places, ignoring Trump votes in others. You'd have to be fucking deranged or, you know, the stupidest of MAGA cretins, which is not a high bar to clear, in order to believe that you could commit fraud with such precision on such a broad scale.
Yeah, the easiest fucking thing would have been for Trump to say the whole election was fucked and that he was standing up for everyone, every single candidate, every single voter. But Trump's poisonous narcissism would not allow that. It was about him and only him and fuck everyone else. The only votes that mattered were the ones for him. All other votes were worthless.
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OLDMDDEM
(3,283 posts)dalton99a
(95,317 posts)Yeah, we're grateful for those who didn't allow themselves to be sucked into Trump's fantasy maw. And, yeah, it's all well and good that people like Attorney General Bill Barr resigned rather than participate in the dicking over of the American people. It's fine that Vice President Mike Pence realized that his ass might be in a world of shit if he didn't certify the election and stood up to Trump. But it's not fuckin' fine that they stayed pretty damn quiet about how Trump was wrecking the joint until fairly recently.
Barr and Pence and so many others who flinched at the end won't be charged with crimes. But they are guilty for putting the country in this fucking bind, for abetting a louche loser for as long as they did, riding his flabby coattails until they finally frayed too much for them. They let him shit all over the nation repeatedly and wiped his ass and said he could load up on fast food and do it again.
Yeah, Trump, that rancid garbage dump of a human, needs to be jailed. But the stench from him will permeate us for the rest of most of our lives. The derangement will take a generation to phase out. It all starts with Trump finally being punished, and, truly, it looks like he really might be.
underpants
(197,191 posts)He cant admit even a hint of failure and especially not on a national scale. He won in a media driven fluke. He also expects everyone to do everything he says just like the crackpot legal team that Jamie Raskin described as
like the bar scene in Star Wars. He cant imagine not being able to talk at least Georgia* into simply doing what pleases him.
* still wouldnt have been enough.
underpants
(197,191 posts)He cant admit even a hint of failure and especially not on a national scale. He won in a media driven fluke. He also expects everyone to do everything he says just like the crackpot legal team that Jamie Raskin described as
like the bar scene in Star Wars. He cant imagine not being able to talk at least Georgia* into simply doing what pleases him.
* still wouldnt have been enough.
3catwoman3
(29,809 posts)
about anyone but himself.
Has he ever?
niyad
(134,035 posts)Grins
(9,525 posts)We are that powerful! You should give it all up!
I have said it since the election to my Reich-friends: If Democrats stole the presidency, why didnt they also steal House and Senate seats - in the same election?
All Democrats had to do was win Florida by the slimmest of margins, and Penn., Georgia, Arizona and other states would not matter. Trump won Florida with 59% of the vote. And yet no one complained about Florida.
Blue Owl
(59,628 posts)
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