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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 09:03 PM Aug 2023

Would LOVE to know what Chris Matthews is thinking.

I know, 99% of DU hates him

But as an exception, I miss his deep historic references and world view

Can a news "newbie" provide that? Who?

Should know, but wondering about Brian Williams.

Just yearning for gravitas.

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Would LOVE to know what Chris Matthews is thinking. (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 OP
Rachel has oodles of gravitas. milestogo Aug 2023 #1
My husband and I loved Peter Jennings. He sometimes had ink stains on his fingers betsuni Aug 2023 #41
On 9/11 he started smoking again milestogo Aug 2023 #52
Yes especially when she says " i'm not a lawyer" a zillion times :) Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #62
She always asks her guests "Did I get that right?" milestogo Aug 2023 #63
I imagine Chris is chomping at the bit to get back in on the talking head circuit. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2023 #2
He's on now and then tavernier Aug 2023 #29
Gravitas from Tweetie???? NoRethugFriends Aug 2023 #3
lolol Celerity Aug 2023 #17
Exactly. Sky Jewels Aug 2023 #56
Yearning for gravitas you say ornotna Aug 2023 #4
Than who? Only gravitas I've seen is Wolfe... Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #9
Gravitas is a hat trick Bucky Aug 2023 #45
Yes very subjective. Can't imagine tho, making yourself Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #60
Good god, never in a million years do I want to hear from him again Fiendish Thingy Aug 2023 #5
Lol Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #10
Yikes!!!! Celerity Aug 2023 #18
I miss Brian Williams lapucelle Aug 2023 #6
I should know, but what happened to him? Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #11
I don't know, but it's definitely a loss. N/T lapucelle Aug 2023 #13
retired. progressoid Aug 2023 #30
Me Too! DET Aug 2023 #7
Exactly - good outweighed bad? Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #16
He was horrible to Hillary Clinton and generally a sexist. spooky3 Aug 2023 #22
He Could Be Sexist DET Aug 2023 #26
As I say below, he didn't like Bill Clinton either. I don't remember him being sexist about Hillary emulatorloo Aug 2023 #36
Here's an old but interesting article about Mathews and Clinton Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #37
He didn't like either the male OR female Clinton. emulatorloo Aug 2023 #35
I really like his bark-laugh. betsuni Aug 2023 #42
Chris Matthews was just on MSNBC yesterday morning wishstar Aug 2023 #8
Ok, know Mike Barnicle ,,,,(sp?) has a LONG history., But I hate Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #14
I normally don't correct grammar Sympthsical Aug 2023 #28
Haha. You can catch me at the comedy club :) Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #38
I was wondering why I haven't seen many posts from you Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2023 #51
Thank you! Sympthsical Aug 2023 #55
Ok... MoJoe has him back. Like that, but he needs his show back! Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #15
I think it's Mika B. who has asked him back. Ilsa Aug 2023 #71
Beschloss and several legal guests provide that context for me. Nt spooky3 Aug 2023 #12
Jon Meacham as well Celerity Aug 2023 #19
That reminds me, what happened to Doris Kearns Goodwin? Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #40
If you are yearning for gravitas from Chris Matthews you have Tweety confused with Autumn Aug 2023 #20
You forgot the " to me" part :) Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #39
Not just me. A lot of us on the Left can't stand that republican shill. Autumn Aug 2023 #47
Makes me think of the new favorite word I learned today Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #53
If you are trying to imply that I am a doctrinaire. I can assure you I'm not. I well remember Autumn Aug 2023 #64
Great! But have no idea what last sentence means :) Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #66
He was on Morning JoeScum a few times recently malaise Aug 2023 #21
I wish Mark Russell was still alive hardluck Aug 2023 #23
I wish Hunter S. Thompson Mr.Bill Aug 2023 #24
Me too! OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2023 #31
That's okay. You're not alone. I'd like it if he were on the panel Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #25
Didn't Matthew's tell us KentuckyWoman Aug 2023 #27
No. That was Bush on the aircraft carrier. He became highly critical of W afterwards. Thought emulatorloo Aug 2023 #32
I get that too Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2023 #50
Well, Chris Mathews wrote a deeply compelling book about Sen RFK... electric_blue68 Aug 2023 #33
Yes! He did Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #68
Did you read it? (Yay, for Library e-books!) I might see if there's a... electric_blue68 Aug 2023 #70
Agreed, very knowledgeable about history and politics. Glad to hear he is on Morning Joe sometimes. emulatorloo Aug 2023 #34
I always though Matthews was a great guest on other people's programs. He's knowledgeable and speaks Earth-shine Aug 2023 #43
GW Bush was the one who gave his leg tingles. Autumn Aug 2023 #48
Yes! You're right. Now I remember. Earth-shine Aug 2023 #49
And Obama speeches too ?? Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #54
WTAF is wrong with that creepy little weirdo? Holy shit! That's some "gravitas" right there! nt Carlitos Brigante Aug 2023 #73
I don't miss Matthews one bit. Paladin Aug 2023 #44
Books !!! :) Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #46
Chris Matthews aka The Interrupter Sky Jewels Aug 2023 #57
Don't miss him at all MurrayDelph Aug 2023 #58
I remember this in real time too senseandsensibility Aug 2023 #61
The only one I miss is Keith Olbermann. Emile Aug 2023 #59
I miss his constantly interrupting every guest and never letting them speak ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #65
I do. So many absolutely need interrupting :) Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #67
at least he mostly talked over and rode roughshod on his women guests so there's a bright side ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #72
Don't know if that's true..hope not! but I saw him swallow anyone Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #74
Kronkite, Wallace, or Russert Kennah Aug 2023 #69

milestogo

(23,084 posts)
1. Rachel has oodles of gravitas.
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 09:05 PM
Aug 2023

That said, sometimes I miss Peter Jennings. I watched him all day on 9/11 because he had the appropriate gravitas.

betsuni

(29,078 posts)
41. My husband and I loved Peter Jennings. He sometimes had ink stains on his fingers
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 06:22 AM
Aug 2023

to show us he actually wrote his own material with a fountain pen, the old fashioned way. I read a long time ago that he had to listen to "A Prairie Home Companion" and would leave his own party to do so.

milestogo

(23,084 posts)
52. On 9/11 he started smoking again
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 08:28 AM
Aug 2023

and that ultimately led to his death.

There's nobody else like him on mass media.

milestogo

(23,084 posts)
63. She always asks her guests "Did I get that right?"
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 04:26 PM
Aug 2023

and they always say yes.

I bet she always does get it right, too.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,133 posts)
2. I imagine Chris is chomping at the bit to get back in on the talking head circuit.
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 09:08 PM
Aug 2023

This is history being made and I'm sure he'd dearly love to have someone on TV ask him his opinion. Same with Brian.

Personally, I'd like to hear Chris's opinion of Clarence Thomas. Both Holy Cross grads who almost overlapped. As a HC grad during their peak social justice - 2 years behind Thomas, I'd find that most interesting.

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
29. He's on now and then
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 10:28 PM
Aug 2023

Last week on Morning Joe, and you can bet he will be on a bunch more as the trial nears.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
45. Gravitas is a hat trick
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 07:52 AM
Aug 2023

Gravitas is subjective. I think you should get used to an on air personality they will acquired this characteristic of gravity that you seek. Rachel Maddow has it, Chris Hayes has it. I think among msnbc Ari Melber, Katie Phang, & Joy Reid all carry knowledge & confidence.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
60. Yes very subjective. Can't imagine tho, making yourself
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 01:31 PM
Aug 2023

watch over and over until you like someone

Fiendish Thingy

(23,236 posts)
5. Good god, never in a million years do I want to hear from him again
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 09:10 PM
Aug 2023

I’d rather watch FOX for an hour than listen to Matthews for a minute.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
6. I miss Brian Williams
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 09:13 PM
Aug 2023

There are lots of news "personalities" who are seizing the moment to promote their brand.

DET

(2,499 posts)
7. Me Too!
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 09:14 PM
Aug 2023

He could be annoying, but I really enjoyed listening to Chris Matthews. He brought a lot to the table. And that laugh made me laugh. IMHO, he should not have been fired. Chris may have occasionally tiptoed over the line, but he was basically harmless, especially compared to other men of his age.

spooky3

(38,634 posts)
22. He was horrible to Hillary Clinton and generally a sexist.
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 09:48 PM
Aug 2023

If someone were similarly racist, I don’t think we would see many DUers calling for his return.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna837481

DET

(2,499 posts)
26. He Could Be Sexist
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 10:09 PM
Aug 2023

But so are most men over 50 - many without even realizing it. I don’t know if you were around back in the day, but the overt sexism and sexual harassment were a million times worse. I have to cut the old timers some slack as long as they aren’t deliberately obnoxious or predatory.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
36. As I say below, he didn't like Bill Clinton either. I don't remember him being sexist about Hillary
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 10:41 PM
Aug 2023

He just didn't like the Clintons for some reason.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
37. Here's an old but interesting article about Mathews and Clinton
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 05:41 AM
Aug 2023
https://www.politico.com/story/2011/02/after-the-wh-with-bill-clinton-049887

Never heard what he had said about Hillary before. But love him or hate him, to me it's refreshing to hear a Dem be allowed to express themselves outside the box. Maybe that's what I miss too - less dogmatic.

wishstar

(5,829 posts)
8. Chris Matthews was just on MSNBC yesterday morning
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 09:16 PM
Aug 2023

I think it was Mike Barnicle asking him questions about current events

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
14. Ok, know Mike Barnicle ,,,,(sp?) has a LONG history., But I hate
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 09:27 PM
Aug 2023

that they have to seem to wake him up to have him say something good
We laugh about it all the time. What a coochy job he landed?

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
28. I normally don't correct grammar
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 10:23 PM
Aug 2023

But it's "cushy" from cushion.

However, the 30 seconds I spent laughing at that was a welcome break from finals studying.

Please don't change it.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
55. Thank you!
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 10:21 AM
Aug 2023

Today's last day with a pharmacology final. Where I've learned never give people with asthma anything, but somehow albuterol fixes everything.

I think I have that right.

Ilsa

(64,371 posts)
71. I think it's Mika B. who has asked him back.
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 11:17 PM
Aug 2023

She used to always sing his praises and talk about how much she always watched his show.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
20. If you are yearning for gravitas from Chris Matthews you have Tweety confused with
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 09:41 PM
Aug 2023

someone else. I don't know who but that is the wrong guy, "deep historic references and world view "


Autumn

(48,962 posts)
47. Not just me. A lot of us on the Left can't stand that republican shill.
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 08:04 AM
Aug 2023

But whatever gives your leg the tingles is fine with me.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
53. Makes me think of the new favorite word I learned today
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 09:57 AM
Aug 2023

Doctrinaire

Way WaPo described what Kathleen Mathews (his wife) WAS NOT when the paper endorsed her over Jamie Raskin for Dem House seat.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
64. If you are trying to imply that I am a doctrinaire. I can assure you I'm not. I well remember
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 06:03 PM
Aug 2023

spittle guy from the Clinton impeachment and the Bush years. I can't stand dead armadillos with yellow stripes and republican light talking heads.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
24. I wish Hunter S. Thompson
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 09:57 PM
Aug 2023

was still around. I can only imagine what he would have been writing for the last six years. In his own way, he brought sanity to the Nixon and Reagan years for me.

Maru Kitteh

(31,761 posts)
25. That's okay. You're not alone. I'd like it if he were on the panel
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 09:58 PM
Aug 2023

tonight too. He has a wealth of experiences and deep knowledge that makes him interesting even when he's a little infuriating.





emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
32. No. That was Bush on the aircraft carrier. He became highly critical of W afterwards. Thought
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 10:33 PM
Aug 2023

Trump was anti-Democratic and he was.

He absolutely despised Trump because of his birtherism.

When trump ran he made mincement of Trump surrogates in the post debate spin room and on his show.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
33. Well, Chris Mathews wrote a deeply compelling book about Sen RFK...
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 10:34 PM
Aug 2023

Relates his history both personal, and political; a bunch I didn't know .

Most eye opening was how RFK was a gentle child. People like my mom who watched him as part of Joe McCarthy's HUAC hearings team - said to me in early 1968 of Bobby, "He's changed!"

His father Joe hated that about him So Bobby hid that part of himself.

After JFK's assassination slowly that part of him began to re-emerge. Now, I'd forgotten that RFK went into the Armed Forces. He met many different kinds of people there.

Couple those earlier experiences, with the reapperance of this part of himself through intense tragedy; he became the deeply compassionate polititian that captured many people's hearts.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
70. Did you read it? (Yay, for Library e-books!) I might see if there's a...
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 11:08 PM
Aug 2023

(probably) a trade paperback at some point when I get a some extra money.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
34. Agreed, very knowledgeable about history and politics. Glad to hear he is on Morning Joe sometimes.
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 10:35 PM
Aug 2023
 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
43. I always though Matthews was a great guest on other people's programs. He's knowledgeable and speaks
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 06:38 AM
Aug 2023

Last edited Fri Aug 4, 2023, 08:09 AM - Edit history (1)

with clarity.

But, as a host, he was awful. He would talk over his guests.

He once made this strange comment how this woman gave him tingles in his leg.

Then, there's these ...

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
54. And Obama speeches too ??
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 10:03 AM
Aug 2023

Last night during MSNBC's Potomac Primary coverage, Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann were discussing Barack Obama's speech. Matthews — who, in the past, has both cried over an Obama speech and compared him to Jesus — described exactly what happens to him when Obama speaks:

I have to tell you, you know, it's part of reporting this case, this election, the feeling most people get when they hear Barack Obama's speech. My, I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often.

 

Carlitos Brigante

(26,848 posts)
73. WTAF is wrong with that creepy little weirdo? Holy shit! That's some "gravitas" right there! nt
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 11:59 PM
Aug 2023
 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
44. I don't miss Matthews one bit.
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 07:10 AM
Aug 2023

By the end of his TV career, it seemed like he was spending equal time commenting on news events and pimping his latest books, of which there were far too many. Good riddance.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
57. Chris Matthews aka The Interrupter
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 10:27 AM
Aug 2023

He was an unwatchable, sexist jerk.

I hope to never hear anything more that comes out of his pie hole.

MurrayDelph

(5,752 posts)
58. Don't miss him at all
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 12:11 PM
Aug 2023

In addition to the sexism, both-siderism, and endless promoting of his books (which he would bring up whether it was relevant or not), he was known for bigfooting his way into interviews others had arranged, and stealing other hosts' show prep.

I'll never forget his final day: he had been told it would be his last show, so he should leave some time at the end to say "good-bye." Instead of leaving professionally (and possibly making the executives question their decision), he walked on, said good-bye, and left with 57 minutes of show left.

Steve Kornacke was thrown in front of the camera, was uncomfortable with the surprise for a few minutes, but by the end of show he was vamping was more informative and professional than Tweety had been for years.

senseandsensibility

(24,974 posts)
61. I remember this in real time too
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 02:47 PM
Aug 2023

It was beyond unprofessional and I can't help but think that if ANY woman had pulled that she would have never heard the end of it.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
67. I do. So many absolutely need interrupting :)
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 10:21 PM
Aug 2023

It's pants on fire, offer outside the box thinking time for sure. Droning on about what happened yesterday ( which we already know) and bland analysis is beyond the pale To me anyway ?

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
72. at least he mostly talked over and rode roughshod on his women guests so there's a bright side
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 11:42 PM
Aug 2023
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
74. Don't know if that's true..hope not! but I saw him swallow anyone
Sat Aug 5, 2023, 07:10 AM
Aug 2023

who was acting lightweight regardless of gender.

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