Jack Smith seeks protective order citing Trump's threat on Truth Social

[Kennah]

https://www.rawstory.com/jack-smith-seeks-protective-order-trump/

Special Counsel Jack Smith on Friday reportedly moved for a protective order in the criminal case brought against Trump over the former president's efforts to overturn the 2020 election, referencing a social media threat Trump posted earlier the same day.

Trump earlier Friday issued a threat that he will be "coming after" anyone who "goes after" him.

"IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU!" Trump posted without any further context on his own Truth Social platform.

That spurred action from the prosecution, according to Kyle Cheney, the senior legal affairs reporter for Politico.

[C_U_L8R]

1. Lock up that menace to society.

No bail.

[Skittles]

7. imagine ANYONE ELSE BEHAVING LIKE THIS

they'd be hauled into jail so fucking fast

[Irish_Dem]

2. Put him in jail for a week.

Every time he opens his pie hole put him in jail for another week.

[Delmette2.0]

10. I like that idea!!

[iluvtennis]

17. Me too.

[electric_blue68]

19. Ooooo 3+

[RainCaster]

24. Nope - until the end of the trial

Take away his phone and put him in the pokey.

[phylny]

32. This is brilliant.

[Fullduplexxx]

3. this is what happens when you show him he's not going to be held accountable

he has done this over and over and not one of the judges have jailed him until trial so you all brought this on yourselves

[PortTack]

15. Nailed it!! At the very least he should have a gag order in place!

[50 Shades Of Blue]

4. This is what Kyle Cheney tweeted

Link to tweet

There are images that you have to click on the link to read.

[Kennah]

5. There it is. I could not find it on Politico.

[royable]

34. Well, if splitting hairs, being prepared to comply is not the same as agreeing to comply.

This is apparently all part of his process of preparing to comply...

right after he gets back into power and has everyone responsible executed, so he doesn't need to comply any more.

And that avatar graphic! Yeeech! Years ago before becoming inured to such things, I used to think it was pretty awful to have the American flag emblazoned on briefs, but this is much worse.

[RandySF]

6. Here is the request.

Link to tweet

?s=20

[RANDYWILDMAN]

8. This Judges need to get involved that is u2 Cannon

This sham of a man will go down and people need to let him.


This was all fixable, The democratic party brought impeachment cases twice and his perfect fucking actions would have been great for a perfect impeachment conviction and him never running for office again.

[DET]

9. So what does this mean?

Something about non-disclosure of materials? Honestly doesn’t sound like much.

[wnylib]

20. It is more than it sounds like on the surface.

During the discovery process, Smith will release some information to Trump's attorneys regarding details of the case that the prosecution is bringing against Trump. That is normal procedure. The lawyers for the defendant are entitled to that information in order to prepare a defense.

But, Trump's most recent threat implies that when he gets that information, he will go after people who provided it. That would include the grand jury that voted for indictment and the witnesses who testified to the grand jury. Considering how Trump operates, he would not personally touch any of those people, but he would either get one of his goons to threaten them further, in secret, or would publicize the info in a way designed to get some crazy MAGA to go after those people with a gun.

In other words, Trump is now intimidating witnesses and jury members that he will get revenge on them for aiding the prosecution. It is a very real and dangerous threat because, during discovery, Trump could learn which witnesses have the most damaging testimomy and target them. He is creating fear in them in the hope that they will recant their testimony or have a memory loss during the trial.

[DET]

26. Thanks!

It’s kind of you to provide that detailed response. Sounds sort of convoluted to me, but what do I know. I just hope that it results in the imminent arrest of that horrible creature, not just another warning (‘One more time and I’ll have to…’).

[wnylib]

37. Arrest would only make him a martyr

and feed his narrative of being a political victim.

I think that a better option is to make him put up bail, in cash or property. Then if he continues to violate bail terms, he forfeits the cash or property.

Since his funds and the funds of the Republican party are dwindling, the threat of losing money or valuable property would hit him where it hurts.

I don't think this could be done legally, but I would love to see each of his properties put up for bail and then seize one each time he violates bail.

[DET]

39. You make a compelling argument, but...

…he will always be a political victim to his base, locked up or not. The rest of the sane world is royally fed up at this point and is desperate for some semblance of justice. While confiscating his assets (which are probably underwater) would certainly devastate Trump, it’s just not enough at this point. The man needs to be locked up, or at least put in isolation without access to social or any other media. He’s getting worse, and will only get worser (as he might say), until he calls for full blown civil war. The rest of the country is losing our civil rights while we pander to his.

[AverageOldGuy]

28. You nailed it!!

I just got off the phone with my DC attorney daughter who is pissed beyond all belief. She was at dinner with a couple of other partners from her firm and they are foaming at the mouth at the way Trump is acting.

You put your finger on it:

In other words, Trump is now intimidating witnesses and jury members that he will get revenge on them for aiding the prosecution. It is a very real and dangerous threat . . .

Trump knows exactly what he is doing.

[uppityperson]

31. Thank you for the explanation

[Mz Pip]

11. I'm convinced

Trump wants to get locked up. What a martyr that would make him! The money would just keep rolling in from his clueless minions.

[PortTack]

18. Actually according to Michael Popok money is drying up! Out of $150 mil + he has only 4 mil left

I am waiting with great anticipation to see him have to sell assets..bedminster, mar largo, his private plane. That will be as painful as anything for him….bring it!!

When penniless, his cult abandon him…no longer the big tough bully rich guy. Maybe he’ll end up with a public defender??!! Wouldn’t that be rich.

[raising2moredems]

21. Yeah but you cannot financially benefit from a crime

Son of Sam law.

[Lovie777]

12. About time...................

[LetMyPeopleVote]

13. This is serious

Link to tweet

[greatauntoftriplets]

14. Can the country sue for a protective order against this asshole?

Since he wants mass retribution, we need to be safe from him too.

[BigmanPigman]

16. He must want to go to jail...

So let's give him what he wants...lock him up!!! The sooner the better.

[wnylib]

36. No phone, no internet access, no surrogates permitted to

post messages for him. Complete isolation from outside contacts.

He is deliberately challenging the judge and the courts. He knows that if they put him in jail, it will enhance his narrative that he is a political victim. He would say that imprisoning him denied him his right to campaign travel.

So he will continue to threaten and intimidate people.

Maybe the consequences should be monetary. Make him put up bail money. If he does not have cash for it, make him use one of his properties. Then if he violates the conditions of his bail by continuing to threaten people, he forfeits the cash or property.

[BigmanPigman]

38. Hit him in his wallet

Works for me. He lives for $$$$$$$ so that would definitely hurt him.

[AllaN01Bear]

22. this menace must be stopped , arrested and thrown away the key .

three years of this is enough

[AverageOldGuy]

25. "three years of this is enough"

AMEN!!!

[AverageOldGuy]

23. So -- this is what I understand:

At his arraignment, the judge told "Mr. Trump" to not threaten, harass, or otherwise screw with witnesses or anyone else.


True to form, Trump left the courtroom and immediately started bitching and moaning, then, he attacked Smith, judges, Biden, DOJ, . . . .

Smith has now asked for a protective order telling Trump and his lawyers to not reveal the names and testimony of any grand jury witnesses. Remember: Grand jury proceedings are secret, but, now that Trump has been charged, grand jury testimony must be turned over to him and his lawyers.

Judge likely will issue such an order, basically a gag order telling Trump and his people to STFD and STFU.

If Trump continues to run off at the mouth -- and what's the chance of that NOT happening -- judge can charge him with violating a court order and she can order an immediate trial on that charge; the trial is in front of this judge, no jury, the judge listens to both sides' arguments then she rules.

Goddam but I hope Trump continues to spew his venom and the judge does something such as slapping his ass in DC jail until his trial. At some point we need to stop this "former President is untouchable" bullshit. NO former president would have acted like this and I doubt that any future president would.

[triron]

29. Why can't the judge just jail him?

[Irish_Dem]

30. Unless there are consequences for Trump, future presidents can run wild like Trump.

Sociopaths, ones smarter than Trump, will do whatever they want.

[gab13by13]

27. Give him the option of publicly apologizing,

or go to jail. the decision will be his.

[GenThePerservering]

35. A public apology will do nothing

the equivalent of a sternly worded letter. The man's a pathological liar and anything he says is worthless. He needs to be gagged.

[Duppers]

40. Indeed! And he must be jailed!

Link to tweet

[NowISeetheLight]

33. My Fantasy

My Fantasy:

Judge: Mr Trump, you were instructed to not try to threaten or intimidate individuals related to your case, correct?

TFG: Yes.

Judge: Yet within 24 hours of that instruction you posted on social media that you would go after individuals.

TFG Lawyer: Your honor, the First Amendment allows... CUT OFF

Judge: I don't want to hear it. You were warned. You are in contempt. Bailiff, take the defendant into custody. Mr Trump, you will remain incarcerated to ensure you do not interfere with your right to a fair trial. Take him away.

TFG: But, But, I'm......

Fade to black as he's led away.

[Thrill]

41. It's already crazy that he can have this many Felony charges

And still not have to pay a penny or put up any property to get out. It’s not fair at all.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

42. The Mango Mussolini declares war on America

[nolabear]

43. The perfect response. Fuck around, Buddy

And find out. Smith is a professional, and I love it.

[LPBBEAR]

44. Put the POS in Jail.....

If any of us did this kind of thing while in the middle of a trial or legal proceeding the Judge would likely revoke our bail and toss our asses in Jail.
This POS has gotten away with this kind of shit all his life. He has done it so often he actually believes he is someone "special" and somehow above the rest of us. Fuck that. Throw his ass in Jail. He won't become a martyr, he won't suddenly be deluged with cash. He will sit there staring at 3 plain walls, a wall of bars, a prison toilet, and a pee stained mattress to sleep on. He won't have non-stop access to Toilet Social and the rest of us will get a break from the constant barrage of his verbal diarrhea.

Fuck him. Put his ass in Jail.

[EnergizedLib]

45. Welcome to the finding out phase

I love how his cultists on Twitter defended him by saying he meant legally.

He’d have a right to potentially counter sue some day, but he didn’t specify that. He talks in dog whistles, and everything he’s done and said shows how dangerous he is.