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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 06:30 AM Aug 2023

Rick Wilson got a message from trump team member?


?

A very, VERY senior member of the Trump administration — whom Rick Wilson agreed not to identify — sent a message directly to Wilson. Rick shared the message with the audience of the show, never revealing the identity of the sender. The message was as follows: “I regret serving in his administration more than anything I’ve ever done in my life. Keep going. You’re patriots. Don’t quit.”

After reading the message to the Breakdown audience, Wilson ended the brief segment with a few choice words of his own: “And if you knew who that was, your f*cking eyes would pop out.”
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Rick Wilson got a message from trump team member? (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 OP
John Kelly? GPV Aug 2023 #1
It would have to be a devout Trumper. gab13by13 Aug 2023 #3
Not a Trumper - a TRUMP. As in Ivanka Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #102
He's already spoken out. So Rick should /would not be saying spooky3 Aug 2023 #53
I'm going with Mick Mulvaney. n/t thesquanderer Aug 2023 #60
Makes sense, but can't see it being jaw dropping? Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #100
Two bits on Jeff Sessions Ponietz Aug 2023 #2
That's a pretty sensible guess I gotta say Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2023 #6
Not miller, he loves hurting people. Butterflylady Aug 2023 #37
"I regret serving in his administration..." Ponietz Aug 2023 #83
I don't think that would be eye popping Renew Deal Aug 2023 #88
Does it matter who Tetrachloride Aug 2023 #4
whoever it is is a fucking COWARD Skittles Aug 2023 #5
+1 !! Quakerfriend Aug 2023 #20
+2 Lochloosa Aug 2023 #24
This Ferrets are Cool Aug 2023 #28
Yep, secretly saying that does nothing. dem4decades Aug 2023 #41
Right? Secret messages to someone's show? AllyCat Aug 2023 #39
Yep. Even if you supported Trump because you thought he could be "managed", tanyev Aug 2023 #46
Agree. Should have spoken out then resigned a long time ago. Nt spooky3 Aug 2023 #55
Exactly. niyad Aug 2023 #71
Yep. They're an absolutely craven scumbag. Oneironaut Aug 2023 #108
epshteyn perhaps? lamp_shade Aug 2023 #7
I get the impression canetoad Aug 2023 #29
Speaks volumes that there are half dozen suspects+? Brainfodder Aug 2023 #74
I haven't seen the name Pence and that would be my guess Maraya1969 Aug 2023 #90
Very, VERY senior member and our eyes would pop out? Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #8
Jared and Ivanka don't know how to "serve" mtngirl47 Aug 2023 #9
True. They wouldn't even think to say the word "serve." Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #10
They didn't "serve". They worked for the tRump-Kuchner mob Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2023 #12
Yes they think that people who serve are fools and suckers. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #15
Honestly those are the only possibilities that would surprise me ecstatic Aug 2023 #54
Pretty sure neither one of them got any patents. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #96
Or Mike Pence? PatSeg Aug 2023 #56
My thought. BadgerMom Aug 2023 #69
Yes, I think that is as courageous as PatSeg Aug 2023 #79
"Spine"? Not sure sure - maybe the beginnings of a notochord. hatrack Aug 2023 #87
My bet, too (n/t) PJMcK Aug 2023 #76
Meadows... MiHale Aug 2023 #11
That's my guess too. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2023 #13
Meadows or Pence? Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #14
I considered Pence too, but he was a weak VP, despite being "in charge" of pandemic response Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2023 #17
Pence. He's growing more outspoken by the day. calimary Aug 2023 #33
I dunno if Meadows risks telling Rick Wilson something like that on condition of anonymity Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2023 #43
Or maybe Pence because he wants to be president so badly but is now deemed a traitor by the Lonestarblue Aug 2023 #16
Yes Pence is trying to re-hab his image now. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #18
If it's Pence, it would be self-serving at least as much as "patriotic." thesquanderer Aug 2023 #66
All of the GOPers who are criticizing Trump now are self serving. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #78
That's my guess, as well. However, GoCubsGo Aug 2023 #27
That's my guess. MLAA Aug 2023 #63
Barr speak easy Aug 2023 #19
Don't think that either of them would've requested anonymity. nt allegorical oracle Aug 2023 #25
No, it's Pence. speak easy Aug 2023 #31
Considering basically nobody else was part of his admin 2016-2020 Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2023 #42
I doubt Jared ever regretted his 2 billion dollars. speak easy Aug 2023 #62
That was my impression as well PatSeg Aug 2023 #57
Why would Pence ask Wilson not to give out his name? Pence is on CNN right now allegorical oracle Aug 2023 #70
Contacting an anti-GOP group would sink his campaign, speak easy Aug 2023 #72
Agreed PJMcK Aug 2023 #77
I can see Giuliani saying that during a lucid moment tavernier Aug 2023 #21
That's a pretty big assumption - that he has lucid moments any more. :-) Wonder Why Aug 2023 #48
Ok, you win. tavernier Aug 2023 #75
Was he part of the Admin all four years, though? ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #97
Why not pop our eyes out? marble falls Aug 2023 #22
Someone who has a double-crossing mentality but is afraid of djt's brown shirts... allegorical oracle Aug 2023 #23
Rex Tillerson. YDogg Aug 2023 #26
He was gone after the first year FakeNoose Aug 2023 #93
Good point ... YDogg Aug 2023 #107
Melania? RVN VET71 Aug 2023 #30
Pence speak easy Aug 2023 #32
Reince Priebus? tanyev Aug 2023 #34
Someone who was privy to the coup and is threatened by Trumps's rants. gordianot Aug 2023 #35
Whoever it is. C_U_L8R Aug 2023 #36
Probably one of the Generals Tarzanrock Aug 2023 #38
None of those would "make eyes pop out" JI7 Aug 2023 #81
Someone considered, in the public eye, as ABSOLUTELY loyal to Trump bucolic_frolic Aug 2023 #40
So sick of these cowards that won't take a stand publicly SouthernDem4ever Aug 2023 #44
Me too! Eff them to the tenth power. FalloutShelter Aug 2023 #49
Yawn Random Boomer Aug 2023 #45
I'm Sure It's A Long List WiVoter Aug 2023 #47
Rick should have ignored the text ecstatic Aug 2023 #50
👍🏼...K&R...👍🏼 spanone Aug 2023 #51
At this point, anything former members of Trumps inner circle (was there ever such a thing?)....... jaxexpat Aug 2023 #52
What about Kelly Ann Conway? She was with him KewlKat Aug 2023 #58
It cost Kelly her marriage. speak easy Aug 2023 #64
I am willing to guess... SpamWyzer Aug 2023 #59
As musclecar6 Aug 2023 #61
I'll believe it when the coward says it publicly. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2023 #65
I assume it's Pence. But whoever it is, too cowardly to come out and say it. yardwork Aug 2023 #67
Yep, that'd be Pence Meadowoak Aug 2023 #86
Bill Barr makes most sense to me. Beastly Boy Aug 2023 #68
Lindsey Graham? Meadowoak Aug 2023 #73
It says a member of the administration JI7 Aug 2023 #82
I hate to say anything good about Mike Pence, but usonian Aug 2023 #80
Perhaps Pompeo? MyMission Aug 2023 #84
Pompeo makes more sense. He was going to run for President JI7 Aug 2023 #91
I'd bet on Pence. roamer65 Aug 2023 #85
Pompeo Renew Deal Aug 2023 #89
Ivanka is my first guess. Pence is my second. nt AnotherMother4Peace Aug 2023 #92
I believe Ivanka sincerely regrets working in the White House FakeNoose Aug 2023 #94
How? She adored her father. May know he's wayward and Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #99
Well it's a hunch based on what some consider a conspiracy theory: I think trump AnotherMother4Peace Aug 2023 #105
Very interesting theory. Wouldn't put anything past them. Just Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #106
Ivanka or Jared Poiuyt Aug 2023 #95
Ivanka. Exactly what I thought as well. nt Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #101
Was thinking it was someone Rick Wilson knew Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #98
Meadows or Jared Mz Pip Aug 2023 #103
Jared would definitely be jaw dropping. But cant Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #104

spooky3

(38,634 posts)
53. He's already spoken out. So Rick should /would not be saying
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 09:02 AM
Aug 2023

Our eyes would pop out.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. That's a pretty sensible guess I gotta say
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 07:07 AM
Aug 2023

It wouldn't be THAT eye-popping but it definitely worked out poorly for that guy. Same is true for Bolton.

Kellyanne is not unthinkable here, nor is Kayleigh, nor is Spicer.

The most mind-blowing would be Stephen Miller.

Ponietz

(4,330 posts)
83. "I regret serving in his administration..."
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 10:42 AM
Aug 2023

This suggests:
—someone appointed, not elected, like fly guy
—someone who walked away and can maintain they took the high road after their eyes were opened.

I’d consider a side bet on Elaine Chao, though.

Skittles

(171,716 posts)
5. whoever it is is a fucking COWARD
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 07:04 AM
Aug 2023

Last edited Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:42 PM - Edit history (1)

FUCK these enablers, FUCK THEM ALL

AllyCat

(18,842 posts)
39. Right? Secret messages to someone's show?
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 08:16 AM
Aug 2023

Show yourself coward! Do something to put these horrors behind bars!

tanyev

(49,296 posts)
46. Yep. Even if you supported Trump because you thought he could be "managed",
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 08:38 AM
Aug 2023

it was pretty obvious within weeks how his presidency was going to go. The person who contacted Wilson probably stuck around for quite a while, saw many horrible things and did very little to try and stop it.

Oneironaut

(6,299 posts)
108. Yep. They're an absolutely craven scumbag.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:51 AM
Aug 2023

You can’t enable Trump’s criminality, and then do this, “You’re doing a good thing - keep it up!” That is, without being a total piece of shit.

canetoad

(20,769 posts)
29. I get the impression
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 07:49 AM
Aug 2023

That Epshteyn is still a believer. My bet is John Kelly but I think we all knew that already.

Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
74. Speaks volumes that there are half dozen suspects+?
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 09:49 AM
Aug 2023

John Kelly hit my brain immediately on this one and I hadn't heard his name or thought about him in ages.

Accurate shocker though if it was Michael Flynn?



Maraya1969

(23,497 posts)
90. I haven't seen the name Pence and that would be my guess
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 07:37 PM
Aug 2023

I think he is crackpot, self serving and power hungry but Pence seems to have some tiny bit of empathy and I do not see how he felt about the child separation policy at the border with the subsequent kidnapping of thousands of migrant children.

Whoever it is must be someone who has some conscience.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
12. They didn't "serve". They worked for the tRump-Kuchner mob
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 07:22 AM
Aug 2023

I don't think they would have used the phrase 'served in his administration'.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
54. Honestly those are the only possibilities that would surprise me
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 09:02 AM
Aug 2023

They lined their pockets very well during our 4 year nightmare. Several patents and at least 2 billion dollars... If they were truly feeling regret, they could start the path to redemption by returning the money and signing those patents over to the American people. 🙄

Ms. Toad

(38,639 posts)
96. Pretty sure neither one of them got any patents.
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 08:33 PM
Aug 2023

If you mean trademarks, unless the US wants to start marketing whatever they are marketing they are worthless. Trademarks are simply source identifiers (including but not limited to brand names).

BadgerMom

(3,417 posts)
69. My thought.
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 09:29 AM
Aug 2023

In the past week he’s just beginning to feel the growth of a spine. It’s slow, for sure, but maybe sending a message without his name attached to a dissident Republican show after failing to testify to a Congressional committee or to stand up for himself or his family-maybe this is courage to him.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
79. Yes, I think that is as courageous as
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 10:33 AM
Aug 2023

Pence can get. Who knows, maybe he prayed on it and God told him to grow a spine and speak up! Maybe he has to do it in baby steps until he can become comfortable with bravery and honesty.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
17. I considered Pence too, but he was a weak VP, despite being "in charge" of pandemic response
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 07:25 AM
Aug 2023

I don't have much to go on, but I don't think Pence actually did much, actually made many crucial decisions in the pandemic response. Didn't Kuchner have an outsized role in that?

calimary

(90,021 posts)
33. Pence. He's growing more outspoken by the day.
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 08:01 AM
Aug 2023

“Very VERY senior” member?

Couldn’t be anybody else. And EVERYBODY’S eyes would pop out if that’s who it is.

Besides, this particular “Mr. Morality” has a conscience - one he buried WAY deep while he was “in bed” with trump. And what he knows he enabled has been bothering him bigtime ever since then.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
43. I dunno if Meadows risks telling Rick Wilson something like that on condition of anonymity
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 08:27 AM
Aug 2023

I mean whoever came out with this had to at least be considering the possibility that Wilson would betray them/give their name out anyway.

I don't know if Meadows risks that at this particular stage, even if it were what he now thinks. I'm sure he's very lawyered up and I doubt any lawyer would advise him telling Rick Wilson something like that.

Pence seems like a more logical choice esp. now that I see this person was purportedly in the admin from 2016-2020. That's not many people.

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
16. Or maybe Pence because he wants to be president so badly but is now deemed a traitor by the
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 07:25 AM
Aug 2023

MAGA cult.

thesquanderer

(13,006 posts)
66. If it's Pence, it would be self-serving at least as much as "patriotic."
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 09:27 AM
Aug 2023

While he has to be careful in criticizing Trump publicly, his slim-to-none chance of being the republican nominee increases a bit if Trump is somehow cut off at the knees, so his support of Wilson's efforts would make sense.

Though I'm not sure I see Pence listening to a Rick Wilson podcast. Or even knowing how to.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
78. All of the GOPers who are criticizing Trump now are self serving.
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 10:17 AM
Aug 2023

But yes more so if they are running for office.

Pence has a PR team who tells him what to say and where to say it.
He didn't think up any of this.

So it does make sense the call came from Pence.

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
27. That's my guess, as well. However,
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 07:44 AM
Aug 2023

I imagine the vast majority of them are having massive regrets right now.

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
31. No, it's Pence.
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 07:59 AM
Aug 2023

I just listened to Rick: "Very, very, very senior member of the Trump Administration, 2016 - 2020"

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
42. Considering basically nobody else was part of his admin 2016-2020
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 08:22 AM
Aug 2023

That seems like a pretty good guess.

I'll laugh though if it was actually Jared. Dude got crazy good benefits by being part of the regime.

allegorical oracle

(6,480 posts)
70. Why would Pence ask Wilson not to give out his name? Pence is on CNN right now
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 09:30 AM
Aug 2023

being very public about how he doesn't believe someone who acted the way tfg did shouldn't be re-elected.

PJMcK

(25,048 posts)
77. Agreed
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 10:11 AM
Aug 2023

Both Barr and Bolton have been outspoken and critical of Trump.

My money is on Pence.

Or maybe Meadows who has been remarkably invisible. Why is that?

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
21. I can see Giuliani saying that during a lucid moment
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 07:31 AM
Aug 2023

I think he might regret going from tbe nation’s mayor to the driver of the clown car.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
97. Was he part of the Admin all four years, though?
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 08:38 PM
Aug 2023

I don't remember that he was, and he grosses me out too much to pollute my computer with a search for his name.

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
93. He was gone after the first year
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 08:20 PM
Aug 2023

I'm SURE Rex Tillerson does regret ever being in the same state as Chump, no question.

Whoever sent this message to Rick Wilson was in the Chump administration for the entire 4 years. How many people could that be? Almost everyone quit or got fired, except Mike Pence and only a handful of others.

YDogg

(6,683 posts)
107. Good point ...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:45 AM
Aug 2023

... I had forgotten how long (not so long) Tillerson was with the misadministration.

RVN VET71

(3,192 posts)
30. Melania?
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 07:54 AM
Aug 2023

Sure, she wasn't technically a "senior member" of the administration. But she was responsible for changing the rose garden into a concrete slab and, of course, for some very Tim Burtonesque White House Christmas decor -- and in so-doing, made a very public image of Trump's soul.

And we know she hated the morbidly obese, incontinent loud mouth even more than he hates people of color.

So she had motive (hatred) and opportunity (because she has plenty of time on her hands) -- and quite possibly a friend or servant who could show her how the "message" thing works.

gordianot

(15,772 posts)
35. Someone who was privy to the coup and is threatened by Trumps's rants.
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 08:07 AM
Aug 2023

They are probably about to testify against him and do not have a deal with Jack Smith. That qualifies them as enablers turned sniveling cowards. It could be from a cast of hundreds.

C_U_L8R

(49,384 posts)
36. Whoever it is.
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 08:09 AM
Aug 2023

If they have any integrity to even their own feelings, they ought to be testifying and turning over every bit of evidence they can.

 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
38. Probably one of the Generals
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 08:11 AM
Aug 2023

Probably one of the "Generals" and likely either John Kelly, James Mattis, or H.R. McMaster.

JI7

(93,617 posts)
81. None of those would "make eyes pop out"
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 10:39 AM
Aug 2023

And they have already been critical or had differences .

bucolic_frolic

(55,140 posts)
40. Someone considered, in the public eye, as ABSOLUTELY loyal to Trump
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 08:18 AM
Aug 2023

And regrets indicate to me that they think it will impact their career going forward, and someone that served in a position in the administration for years, not months. Someone 40-55 years of age in my opinion.

Hmmm.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
50. Rick should have ignored the text
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 08:53 AM
Aug 2023

If s/he's still too much of a coward to come forward, it means they'll fall in line again should the worst happen and tfgi gets reinstalled. So, fuck whoever sent that. They enabled and supported the coup attempt.

That said, if someone has the time or interest they could check the Twitter accounts of the senior members and see who writes like that. But I don't care. They're all traitors but the sane ones (if any) would certainly regret working for tfg.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
52. At this point, anything former members of Trumps inner circle (was there ever such a thing?).......
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 09:01 AM
Aug 2023

anonymously volunteer is largely pre-fall cushioning and politics of a most self-serving nature. Rick Wilson's stature as an honest broker of historical truths is not increased by this. "F*cking eyes would pop out" indeed! What could be the possible use for maintaining this fellow's anonymity unless they're both afraid of Trump? OR, and most likely, the role of "mystery" source will best extend their short shelf-life click-bait value. Clicks are the coin of the realm, you know.

 

SpamWyzer

(385 posts)
59. I am willing to guess...
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 09:13 AM
Aug 2023

based on Wilson's "...eyes pop out" comment and based on what happened in a parking lot yesterday to the ex-VP45...the call he received came from Mike Pence.

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
61. As
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 09:20 AM
Aug 2023


Others have said, I’m guessing Pence. We know obviously Kelly has no use for that deplorable person, along with many many others, if they told the truth.
 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
68. Bill Barr makes most sense to me.
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 09:28 AM
Aug 2023

He had a decent reputation coming in. He had it completely ruined going out. His legacy, which he values most, is cemented, but not in a way he wanted or expected. A lot to regret and no one left to care when he bitches about it.

usonian

(25,324 posts)
80. I hate to say anything good about Mike Pence, but
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 10:38 AM
Aug 2023

name me ANYONE who defied the orange turd in a meaningful way. The others obeyed until they saw the hammer coming for themselves, and fled.

Completely gutless and without moral compass. Actions count.

MyMission

(2,010 posts)
84. Perhaps Pompeo?
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:39 AM
Aug 2023

Many here suggested pence, but he was vp, an honor and responsibility he took seriously, so I don't think he'd regret that.

Pompeo, I haven't seen or heard anything about him in a while. He had aspirations that got squashed by his association with tfg.

Just a thought.

JI7

(93,617 posts)
91. Pompeo makes more sense. He was going to run for President
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 07:45 PM
Aug 2023

but I think decided not to and hasn't said anything.

Most of those being named are already publicly critical of Trump including Pence even though he is tryng to make excuses. There wouldn't be any need for them to contact Wilson to say this.


FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
94. I believe Ivanka sincerely regrets working in the White House
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 08:24 PM
Aug 2023

... however I don't think she's ever been on friendly terms with Rick Wilson. I don't believe she'd ever send a message like that to him or anyone else, even though she truly feels that way.

This has to be Mike Pence ...

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
99. How? She adored her father. May know he's wayward and
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 09:46 PM
Aug 2023

going down fast, but truly can't see her throwing him under bus? Convince me?

AnotherMother4Peace

(5,125 posts)
105. Well it's a hunch based on what some consider a conspiracy theory: I think trump
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 10:04 PM
Aug 2023

had something to do with Ivana's (Ivanka's mother) fall-down-the-stairs death. This is why:
He holds a grudge and boasts about the revenge he gets. Trump blamed her for his fucked up hair transplant procedure. Ivana recommended someone to him. He assaulted and raped her, which she testified to in her divorce deposition, which pissed trump off all the more. I believe he found his time for revenge. I believe Ivanka and her siblings know this.

And I guess her NDA was soon going to expire (according to another du'er).

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
106. Very interesting theory. Wouldn't put anything past them. Just
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:29 AM
Aug 2023

to me, too much of a leap for her to encourage someone who could implicate her in shady behavior. Or implicate the father of her kids. But it would make my eyes pop out!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
98. Was thinking it was someone Rick Wilson knew
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 09:43 PM
Aug 2023

And trusted.. no way ( former advisor) no way could it be Rudy.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
104. Jared would definitely be jaw dropping. But cant
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 09:57 PM
Aug 2023

See him as a patriot ( saying carry on )

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