The way to de-Trumpify is to take away his support

[gulliver]

Trump is just a symptom. If we want to get back to equality, comity (even some unity), national health care, reproductive rights, climate progress, sensible gun laws, working class values, we need to prioritize those things. We need to get back the white working class (and all working class), add to our suburban support, especially among males, and appeal to moderate or slightly conservative minority groups.

Trump is a response to Democrats not making a habit of keeping our equanimity and remembering who we are. We have all the good positions. We just need to make sure they are front and center. The boring, normal, and sensible need to be front and center. The wild, fun, dumb, "anger tail-spin" stuff, the dying on every dumb "angels on the head of a pin" hill, etc., needs to be given its proper level of attention and attenuation (based on priorities driven by one-person-one-vote rights).

[walkingman]

1. I'm hoping the public will grow weary of this narcissistic BS and yearn for real results

and performance by government. I fear the vast majority of America is hooked on sensationalism by social media and too lazy to try and really understand the issues.

Most people are far more comfortable with someone telling them how to think.

[Ocelot II]

2. We (Democrats) do that already. The problem isn't what Democrats are doing

or trying to do for the benefit of everyone, but what people have been made to believe through years of propaganda from Fox "News" and hate radio. Trump's supporters are effectively a cult, and even if Democrats handed them everything they needed and wanted - good jobs, health care, etc. - on a platter, they'd still believe Democrats are baby-eating Communist child molesters. You can't get through to a cult with logic and facts. Nothing affects them except emotion - mostly hate and fear. You're farting in a whirlwind when you talk to MAGAts about jobs and roads and health care; they just want free rein to keep hating the people they hate - people of color, immigrants, LGBTQ people, uppity women - and would happily vote against their own interests if they think doing so would also hurt those "other" people.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

10. Not to mention the years of bothsiderist propaganda from our

Traitor MSM. They have done their own share of the damage by propping up the rotten carcase of traitor party legitimacy, way beyond its sell-by date.

We blame Faux for a great deal of things, they deserve it, yes, but let's not forget that it was the treasonous NYT who dug up and trumpeted idiotic and obvious fascist lies like Whitewater, Troopergate, Filegate, Al Gore's sighs, the lies about Saddam's WMD capabilities, the Swift Boat lies about Kerry, Benghazi, Hillary's servers, Clinton Cash, the supposed uranium nonsense--

They were the origin of most of those fabrications, and they have done precious little atoning for it.

[flamingdem]

3. Yes, but we can't overlook disinformation as a root cause

Many are brainwashed. Primed for authoritarianism. They can't think of their own interests.

How else could the Heritage Foundation get away with promoting Project 2025?

This is just one area of attack:

An alliance of rightwing groups has crafted an extensive presidential proposal to bolster the planet-heating oil and gas industry and hamstring the energy transition, it has emerged.

Against a backdrop of record-breaking heat and floods this year, the $22 million endeavor, Project 2025, was convened by the notorious rightwing, climate-denying think tank the Heritage Foundation, which has ties to fossil fuel billionaire Charles Koch.

Called the “Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise,” it is meant to guide the first 180 days of presidency for an incoming Republican president. Climate experts and advocates criticized planning that would dismantle US climate policy.

[Meadowoak]

4. Trump's supporters are dying off by the day.

[Farmer-Rick]

5. I agree Trump is a symptom

But a symptom of a broken economic system.

We have democracy in our government....at least we use to and we claim it is America's goal. It's what our founding fathers strived for.

But we have absolutely no democracy in our economic system. Bosses, employers, CEOs, owners, board members and majority stock holders make ALL the decisions for ALL the millions of workers. Why?

Why should they get to decide to close down Detroit car manufacturing and move it all the Mexico and China? Millions of people's lives were destroyed by that 1 decision. Why do we let those who inherit capital control our economy?

We can let the filthy rich participate but why let them run and ruin every economic issue in the country? They are not smart just because they were born into the right family. They are not capable just because they are sociopaths willing to make millions suffer for a few more riches.

But now the little Hitlers of capitalism have moved on to our government. And we may never get our democracy.

[Kablooie]

6. It's cult mentality. Not a political following.

Cult thinking does not go away And does not respond to logic or reason.
The only way to begin to change minds is for Trump to totally disappear.
Even afterwards it will take years for it to fade.

There’s no way to change the minds of his base and the Republican Party have set themselves up to be totally subservient to these zombies if they are to win any elections.

[Keepthesoulalive]

7. You are correct

You cannot reason with them. You have to out vote them.

[Fiendish Thingy]

8. I wholeheartedly disagree

The way to de-Trumpify the country is not to

get back the white working class (and all working class), add to our suburban support, especially among males, and appeal to moderate or slightly conservative minority groups.

That is a strategy that has been recommended by the consultant class, and has failed for the better part of the last 40 years.

The way to de-Trumpify is to follow the examples of Gretchen Whitmer and other Dem governors who, with their legislative majorities, are governing as fearless, unhesitating progressives.

No performative centrism, no pragmatic incrementalism.

If Dems control the executive branch and the legislative branch (which, in 2025, will be absent Manchin and Sinema), they should do as Whitmer has done in the first 7 months of this year and Ram through progressive bill after bill. Voting rights, reproductive rights, judicial ethics, climate change, etc. pass the original BBB with half a trillion in climate change funding, day care, child tax credits, and raise the minimum wage.

Rather than worrying about winning over white working class voters and slightly conservative minority groups, Dems should let good, progressive governance speak for itself.

If the Dems find the courage, I predict good progressive governance would quickly de-Trumpify the nation (well, let’s say down to single digit support for MAGA extremists) and almost guarantee Dem majorities for a generation.

The greatest pool of untapped voters in the nation are the 18-29 year old voters, whose turnout has been steadily growing and who support Dems 2 to 1 over republicans at least. They don’t have strict party loyalty, but they are overwhelmingly progressive.

Passing reproductive rights, student loan forgiveness, free community/state college and the child tax credit would likely seal the deal with young voters, and would “get back” a big chunk of the white working class.

[Hortensis]

9. tRump is NOT a RW response to the failures of Democrats.

This sounds to me like the same-old "everything Republicans do is really Democrats' fault because Democrats always could have stopped them but didn't."

That is not reality based.

People are individuals who make their own choices, not "masses" that get molded by whatever leaders get to it first. The first and last response of many to exposure to Democratic truth is not enlightenment but disagreement, even contempt for our nonsense, and rejection. That's reality.

We need to respect other people more just to get along, but politically nothing can be understood without respecting the reality and power, and almost infinite diversity of individuals with votes. Not one was ever ours to enlighten, "mishandle" or neglect.