Once the Judge gives Trump his new marching orders tomorrow...

[kentuck]

He will ignore them within 24 hours.

Even if she tells him that he will be remanded to jail if he disobeys the order, he will still disobey.

He will challenge the law at every turn.

In my opinion, he believes that if he is put in jail, that will be the catalyst that begins the rebellion of his loyal supporters. He may be over-estimating their level of intelligence?

[anciano]

1. Agree that he will ignore any orders.....

the question then becomes will there be any consequences?
We shall see ......

[Irish_Dem]

2. He probably hopes he can stage a shoot out with police and SS.

The police who come to put him in jail and the SS to protect him.

It would be worked out in advance which would disappoint Trump.

Yes he could be trying to burn it all down because he is not getting what he wants.

[captain queeg]

10. I wonder if his SS detail are the same ones as when he was president?

We know he had some Trumpers amongst his detail back when he was president. It would seem prudent to shake the personnel up once in awhile. And I’d think watching over a former president is sort of a second string assignment with the best agents watching over the current president. Trump probably doesn’t rate snipers surrounding him when he goes out in public like the real president.

[Irish_Dem]

13. Good question. Pence didn't trust Trump's SS detail.

He was hesitant to get into a SS car on J6.

Biden didn't trust Trump's SS either and changed the WH detail I read.

Yes I assume those who guard the ex presidents are different from the ones
who guard current POTUS. But Trump has a way of corrupting anyone who works
for him, so I don't know what his SS detail would do if push came to shove.

[Evolve Dammit]

33. works for me. Treat Maggot Lago like Waco if he doesn't comply.

[Irish_Dem]

35. I had the same picture in my head.

Trump would love it as long as he is hiding in his secure bunker.
Let everyone else take bullets.

[Evolve Dammit]

36. A Hitler-like ending works as well... either way, I don't care anymore.

[Irish_Dem]

40. Yep, I am on my last nerve with ruthless sociopaths destroying the world.

On top of that, we have to watch the planet die.

If we are going to maintain our sanity, something has to give.

[Evolve Dammit]

41. Amen

[B.See]

43. Join the club. I'd LONG been fed up with his a...

[Ms. Toad]

3. If orders are issued tomorrow, they are likely to address discovery,

not commentary on social media.

Trump's threat was added to the motion to emphasize the risks that allowing Trump access to personally identifying information posed.

The judge could, on her own, issue a gag order - but she is much more likely to set a hearing (for some future date) at which she can warn him of the consequences of continuing his behavior.

[lastlib]

4. The judge needs to have that hearing....

... with Slobfather in court no later than Tuesday morning.

[LakeArenal]

5. Yes.

[Deuxcents]

6. The longer this goes without consequences,

The more emboldened he gets. I’m sure the judge knows that so I’m wondering how much longer his rope gets..like the saying goes about giving someone enough rope to hang himself. In the meantime, his threatening language is putting people in danger so it can’t go on much longer

[MOMFUDSKI]

7. He has already hung himself.

The Judge must respond harshly. This can’t be allowed to continue. If she lets this ride she will lose all credence. We are in circus territory.

[Deuxcents]

8. Yep..

[Stuart G]

25. Yes, ...repeat...."He has already hung himself."

[calimary]

29. I hope she does. How long does he get to push the boundaries like this?

When does that finally END???

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

51. But she has to do it with him in the court

And I don't think he's required to show up for tomorrow's hearing.

She'll have to summon him, and that won't happen tomorrow, because courts have to give people sufficient notice to appear before them.

At the rate he's going, she may have him report to her courtroom by Friday, LOL.

[onetexan]

50. This!☝️

[rubbersole]

9. He's definitely overestimating the rubes dedication.

Tons of big talk. Give it your best shot, slobby. Judges love tough guys. Show her who's boss...

[kentuck]

12. I agree.

Look at his "huge" crowds he had at his last arraignment. There will not be a repeat of January 6th, as much as he loved seeing the huge TRUMP flags and MAGA hats.

He is delusional, in my opinion.

[rubbersole]

15. 'delusional' is way too kind...

[MyOwnPeace]

22. YES! I think that at this time......

we are dealing with a BRAIN-ADDLED DEMON - a "Legend in his Own Mind" (such as it is......)

[Evolve Dammit]

34. and his "beautiful head of hair" (JHC what a disgrace). Fucking nut job. What does the world think?

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

52. I don't think he's delusional, really

He's desperate, and that's making him want to try absolutely anything he can to keep himself out of jail. That doesn't mean he's delusional.

When I broke my mum's favorite vase, I wished that traffic would be so bad coming home that she'd not notice it was missing. Or that she'd forget it ever existed if I threw it away at the dumpster behind a shop down the road. Or that maybe pirates would grab her and make her sail the high seas until she forgot (I was 8--Pirates were in many of the stories I read at that age).

I wasn't delusional, only desperate not to get punished for what I'd done.

Same thing.

But I was 8 when I did that. This idiot isn't.

[captain queeg]

19. Yeah they can see what happened to the true believers on Jan 6

When he was really the president. If he’s sent to jail there’ll be some magats bitching, including the ones in congress. But he’ll over play his hand and going to jail will just be further proof he’s washed up. He’ll end up losing support.

[onenote]

11. seems like some posters are prepared to throw the judge under the bus

if she doesn't do what they think she must.

[kentuck]

14. I hope not.

I don't think they could find a tougher Judge for this case. Trump is trying to use her for propaganda purposes but I doubt that will bother her very much at all.

He is critical of everyone that might hold him accountable.

[BumRushDaShow]

17. I posted in another thread that she might do like judge Amy Berman Jackson did to Roger Stone

(and as we all know, he was an obnoxious daily loud mouth who also personally attacked the judge, including through imagery... however judges tend to do an escalating series of orders before swinging the hammer)

Feb. 1, 2019 - considering a gag order and asking both sides to respond

Feb. 15, 2019 - limited gag order imposed (with certain discourse not prohibited)

Feb. 21, 2019 - additional gag order restrictions imposed

Jul. 16, 2019 - hammer falls and gag order extended to social media use

Stone was eventually convicted for a multitude of things, not the least of which included some charges similar (but related to his Congressional testimony and/or lack thereof) to what 45 is facing - https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/roger-stone-found-guilty-obstruction-false-statements-and-witness-tampering

His savior swooped in to commute his 40-month sentence.

[MyOwnPeace]

24. "His savior swooped in to commute his 40-month sentence."

HA!!!!!!

And we KNOW that IQ45 - aka: tRump - HAS NO SAVIOR!!!!!!!!

Good luck, Donnie - you're gonna' wear that orange well!!

[pwb]

16. If trump is put in jail

all sides will be able to forget about him. Good for the entire country.

[dobleremolque]

18. It is a delicate balancing act for the judge to

discipline TFG for his violations of release conditions on the one hand, and fuel potential delays of the actual trial, on the other. Anything the court does will give him appeal rights which will only stoke his favorite tactic which is to delay, delay delay.

While I'd like as much as anyone to see tRump jailed for his violations of the terms of release, it seems to me the fastest and best way to rid ourselves of him is to get him to trial as quickly as possible.

The Chinese curse is coming true: we live in interesting times.

[MyOwnPeace]

26. And THAT is the 'dance' that Jack Smith is doing SO well!

After his (IQ45) bullshit post "Come after me I'm coming after you!" - the 'VERY SPECIAL PROSECUTOR' could have gone after him with full guns a-blazing.

But, NO!

He, SC Smith - (AKA: REALLY Making America Great Again Master!) simply moved one small step up the ladder - requesting control over released material regarding evidence related to the impending trial.

Simply stated - SC Smith is just giving IQ45 as much rope as he wants to finish the job - and tRump is grabbing the rope with BOTH of those WEE-TINY HANDS!

[fierywoman]

39. This.

[Ponietz]

27. A defendant in custody gets the speediest trial

[dobleremolque]

49. Um, not necessarily.

https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2023/04/26/georgia-man-behind-bars-10-years-still-waiting-his-day-court/

[gordianot]

20. I do wonder if TFG wants to be jailed.

The MAGAT’s lately seem a little too tame. Could he be thinking jail would rule them up?

[soldierant]

31. That's the only reason I can think of also.

And I don't think he is subtle enogh to think of something I couldn't - although he might be crazy enough. And then there are people around him.

[aax]

21. If his supporters riot

then they too will arrested, tried and convicted thus making America Great Again.

[MyOwnPeace]

42. Well, HELL YEAH, it would!

and welcome to DU!

[TomSlick]

23. IMO, Jack Smith is unlikely to ask for a gag-order - at least until there is no choice.

He's on a short time line. He will want to avoid anything that might delay the march toward a speedy trial.

[MyOwnPeace]

28. I agree.......

he'll 'give a little' to grab a lot. Just shutting down any and all 'complaints' that the tRump team could possibly have.

BRILLIANT!

For all of the complaints and grief/disappointment I may have regarding AG Garland, I can't imagine EVER having selected a better Special Counsel than Jack Smith!

[swong19104]

38. I don't mind a long delay

so long as TIG is held in a holding cell without any communication device. He can die there for all I care, before his trial begins. Just make him invisible to people. That's what will cure the sickness of the MAGAts.

[TomSlick]

53. Whether or not Trump is in pretrial confinement,

the case needs to be completed through trial and sentencing before the election.

[Jersey Devil]

44. Smith probably won't ask for a gag, but the judge will do it for him

Forget about the facts of the case for a moment. The judge has the right to uphold and protect the dignity of the court and its officers. Posts that say the prosecutor is "deranged" and the court and jury pool is biased will force the judge to at least consider a gag order. So even if she does not enter one tomorrow, she will put the defense on notice that she will do so if Trump's shenanigans continue.

[TomSlick]

54. I don't disagree.

However, I suspect the Judge will only issue such an order sua sponte if there appears to be no choice.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

30. Go there

Put his fat ass in jail and let the chips fall where they may. MAGAts want to fight? Bring it.

[Augiedog]

32. There's still room for them in prison too

[swong19104]

37. Just don't allow him to transmit any communication about it

Stick him in a jail cell. Do not allow him to communicate with anyone other than his lawyers, and only by written communication on paper. No electronic devices, no voice communication. He gets to write something on a piece of paper, the attorney(s) get to read it. The paper is then archived. The attorney(s) will reply on a different sheet of paper. TIG gets to read that, and then that sheet of paper is archived. And so on. One sheet at a time.

[FakeNoose]

46. Exactly - no cellphones, no calls, no contact with the press

Radio Silence!

End this clown show....

[SKKY]

45. I hope he keeps playing this card, because it will put him in jail, and as the kids say these days..

..."This is the content I'm here for." Schadenfreude is never a good look, but in this instance, I'll allow myself the luxury. Justice bitches! It's what's for dinner.

[DownriverDem]

47. One thing

for sure is that something has to be done. The military should be on stand by to control whatever his crazies try to do. Some for sure are more bark than bite. trump just can't be left to do or say what he wants.

[PlutosHeart]

48. I hope they swap out the SS

he has currently to make sure they are not loyalists.