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marble falls

(71,919 posts)
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:00 PM Aug 2023

Have I got a disease for you ...

... and by got, I mean I have it myself.

I've been ill for 18 months, sometime severe enough I gave up DU around the February of the new year for several months.

I would be ill for a week or more and then be well for two or three days. I went though a period of feeling well for five or six months after two visits to the ER and being prescribed a series of antibiotic for what was assumed to be a urinary infection. An accurate diagnosis was complicated by the bag I need since my bladder cancer surgery in 2019. The bag would show an infection whether there was on or not.

By November it came back and my primary physician (whom I am very satisfied with) ordered another round of antibiotics which stopped symptoms until January or early February.

The symptoms were all over the book, it was as if they put the complete list of symptoms in front of me and I ticked the box of every one of them. None of them by them selves bad enough to turn me into an invalid I was becoming but enough of them to bring me down while confusing my physician who worked hard to find a cause and to get VA to escalate to finding a cause.

Two weeks ago she made an appointment with an infectious disease specialist. This was appointment was a week ago last Wednesday, the appointment went on longer than an hour - unusual with VA where 20 minutes is the average appointment and it ended with taking about 15 blood samples, with another visit for two week because some of the test went 2 weeks before showing results.

This last Thursday the Infectious Disease Doctor called because some of the results had come back and asked if I could show up at VA/Temple and when I said yes, she said she'd call me right back. Less than five minutes later she called me back.

I was admitted before 11:00AM and by noon had a bunch of blood taken again.

The protocol at VA was the out patient testing was done through the day and I would be tested in the evening.

About 1:00PM the doctor came and told me they were sure I had Brucellosis.

Brucellosis is a disease that affects about 20,000 cases a year in the US. It's caused by consumption of unpasteurized milk products or people who work with cattle. Two things I don't do.

It is a tough diseases to beat, the antibiotics need to be taken for a month and one has the annoying side effect of turning all body fluids orange that stains what they touch.

The testing started at about 6:00PM and went onto 9:00 or so - CT-scan, MRI, X-rays, more blood, and an ultra sound of my heart.

The disease settles into various parts of the body, joints, muscle, organs (heart as endocarditis - which I had in in 91 when I had a heart attack). They found antibodies for Brucellosis that indicated I had two flareups they think were rebuffed by the two antibiotic regimes from the ER last year. And that it flared up again this year.

I've been plagued with extreme tiredness and inability to do things, napping all the time, loss of appetites, night sweats and then extreme chills, headache, vomiting, never all together so I could justify going into the ER.

I began to wonder if it was all psychosomatic. I am grateful for VA and how hard my primary physician worked for me.

I still feel like warmed over patootie, but I have hope.



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Have I got a disease for you ... (Original Post) marble falls Aug 2023 OP
So critical that you got your diagnosis flamingdem Aug 2023 #1
About the time of the first ER I bought Bulgarian Feta through Amazon, and I may have sampled ... marble falls Aug 2023 #6
I was going to suggest cheese as a possible source. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #29
I am a fan, but I have to actually know the maker and that the cows are regullarly inspected - ... marble falls Aug 2023 #54
So sorry to hear this. GP6971 Aug 2023 #2
It's good that you have a diagnosis and HOPE. brer cat Aug 2023 #3
I've never heard of that before. Brucellosis. calimary Aug 2023 #4
I thought it was a disease cattle got, not people. Ligyron Aug 2023 #40
Yikes! 2naSalit Aug 2023 #5
I got told it's lottery level odds. 20,000 out of 350,000,000! marble falls Aug 2023 #8
Something like that... 2naSalit Aug 2023 #12
Between W and TFG, regulations have been turned into a joke. marble falls Aug 2023 #14
True. 2naSalit Aug 2023 #20
Just remember lonely bird Aug 2023 #62
I never forget... 2naSalit Aug 2023 #63
Wow, just wow. So glad your medical team hung in there until they figured it out. MLAA Aug 2023 #7
I noticed your absence !!! So glad your doctors stuck with you and didn't give up. Karadeniz Aug 2023 #9
Goodness. That's a new one on me but I am so glad you got a definitive diagnosis. I hope LoisB Aug 2023 #10
Oh no.. what an ordeal mountain grammy Aug 2023 #11
This must have been much more common in the 1950's, because marybourg Aug 2023 #13
You have a great team going for you at the VA, marble falls. sheshe2 Aug 2023 #15
I grew up on a farm, our vet always said dogs can carry Brucellosis, too. Pigs, goats, sheep Ziggysmom Aug 2023 #16
I just learned about dogs, because they roll in dead animals and I was aware of "wasting disease: .. marble falls Aug 2023 #71
Thank you for sharing mchill Aug 2023 #17
just to build on your experiences, barbtries Aug 2023 #26
I've gotten more pet adverse as I've gotten older. Only dogs and cats, and only rescued ... marble falls Aug 2023 #75
Atlantic magazine had an article mchill Aug 2023 #120
Indeed! marble falls Aug 2023 #122
I can relate to that. barbtries Aug 2023 #131
Is that the same as Avian flu? mchill Aug 2023 #119
No, it's not related to wild birds barbtries Aug 2023 #130
The Avian flu is deadly to humans mchill Aug 2023 #132
I know there's bubonic plague up in the four corners (AZ, NM, CO, UT), never though of it in CA! marble falls Aug 2023 #72
Great medical team to work out that diagnosis. Now get well soon. sinkingfeeling Aug 2023 #18
I had actually heard of the disease, but knew nothing about it. So very thankful niyad Aug 2023 #19
At least you finally have a diagnosis. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2023 #21
So sorry to hear. dalton99a Aug 2023 #22
what a nightmare for you! barbtries Aug 2023 #23
It is most imprtant to get a doctor that listens to you, as it is important to listen to yourself .. marble falls Aug 2023 #76
Yikes, I haven't heard about that since that Warren Zevon song progressoid Aug 2023 #24
Me either until now... Ligyron Aug 2023 #41
Sounds horrible cate94 Aug 2023 #25
Glad you got a diagnosis - Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #27
I am grateful for the immigrant women doctors, mainly Moslem, who've been taking taking care of ... marble falls Aug 2023 #55
That's some serious Hill Country street cred. carpetbagger Aug 2023 #28
I hope the skip me over on the next cred check! marble falls Aug 2023 #56
Wow sorry about that, my wife just got hit by this last thursday 1AM...never heard of it... spanone Aug 2023 #30
I'm not ready for anything like that. Whoa. marble falls Aug 2023 #57
Yea absolutely crazy. spanone Aug 2023 #118
Got her on my list of prayers and thoughts. marble falls Aug 2023 #121
same to you my friend spanone Aug 2023 #125
I'm so glad they finally figured it out. Lars39 Aug 2023 #31
Here's to speedy recovery. That sounds like a tough condition to diagnose. Glad Silent Type Aug 2023 #32
I'm so glad you have a diagnosis and treatment plan! herding cats Aug 2023 #33
They're not required to pasturize the milk used in cheese in a lot of europe. Ligyron Aug 2023 #42
But EU standards are tough and enforced seriously. Bulgaria is EU but it is also a little backward.. marble falls Aug 2023 #73
Good to know you're switching back to domestic intake. ancianita Aug 2023 #92
As I've gotten older, I've learned to manage risk. I've gone from careful and picky to risk adverse marble falls Aug 2023 #94
Good. Because ancianita Aug 2023 #102
Trust me: I never intentionally consumed unpasturised milk products! And the GOP wants to ... marble falls Aug 2023 #78
I didn't mean to imply you did! herding cats Aug 2023 #127
I am sure I've unknowingly tasted unpasturised cheese a one farmer's market or another in Austin ... marble falls Aug 2023 #129
I only know brucellosis from that Warren Zevon song. johnp3907 Aug 2023 #34
Thank goodness you found out. justgamma Aug 2023 #35
I drank it in Ohio and Iowa, but I knew the makers, knew their kitchens were inspected regularly, .. marble falls Aug 2023 #74
"...remembering good old days that never existed." dchill Aug 2023 #104
Kick some ass vercetti2021 Aug 2023 #36
You know, you sound like EndlessWire Aug 2023 #37
+ 1000 😻 Niagara Aug 2023 #66
I'm glad they caught and hope you are on the mend. Yes, I've heard of it. LeftInTX Aug 2023 #38
OMG marble falls what an ordeal you've been through. Fla Dem Aug 2023 #39
And I wish the same for you, I especially pray one of your doctors gets that moment of clarity ... marble falls Aug 2023 #79
I hope for the best. Wow. That's one terrible horrible ordeal. Solly Mack Aug 2023 #43
What a %#@ nightmare you've lived through! Ligyron Aug 2023 #44
So relieved that you finally have a diagnosis, my friend! Wishing you a return to good health! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2023 #45
Happy that they figured it out. William769 Aug 2023 #46
It's on the way. Thank heaven! marble falls Aug 2023 #80
It hasn't harmed your writing excellence. rubbersole Aug 2023 #47
what a relief that you were finally diagnosed orleans Aug 2023 #48
You know me, nothing simple and easy! marble falls Aug 2023 #81
"Warmed over patootie" tells me that you've still got your sense of humor. Hope you're well soon. RussellCattle Aug 2023 #49
Good health BigOleDummy Aug 2023 #50
Most people who pass bad stories are usually non-Vets who are telling second and third hand ... marble falls Aug 2023 #88
So sorry to hear you've been ill for so long. Lonestarblue Aug 2023 #51
Glad there's light at the end of the tunnel Marble Falls Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2023 #52
Wow. BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #53
Brucellosis? malaise Aug 2023 #58
Symathies of course. But, your OP title invites an oldie ... JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2023 #59
Trust me, I'll take what's in the bag - it's good shit! ... marble falls Aug 2023 #82
Wow - what a rare diagnosis. You'll bounce back once they pump you with antibiotics. Vinca Aug 2023 #60
It must be reassuring to finally put a name on this problem FakeNoose Aug 2023 #61
It makes a real difference. I was starting to think it was all psychosomatic, I was pretty down ... marble falls Aug 2023 #86
All the best to you, and thanks for reinforcement of the poorly performing MD diagnostic system bucolic_frolic Aug 2023 #64
Glad to hear that you have a diagnosis, marble falls. Niagara Aug 2023 #65
I'm glad you have a doctor who cares. Not understanding and not knowing are crazy-making. 58Sunliner Aug 2023 #67
Wow! I'm very sorry to hear this, but gratified you got a diagnosis and a path forward. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2023 #68
Good for your medical team & whoop that Brucellosis bug away. Take care, all the best. appalachiablue Aug 2023 #69
It has a huge number of synonyms muriel_volestrangler Aug 2023 #70
What an ordeal! But - you have the diagnosis and now hopefully can be treated.. CousinIT Aug 2023 #77
I am so sorry to hear you've been going through this, marble falls. crickets Aug 2023 #83
Wow, that's really something. So happy you finally have a diagnosis! Best wishes. 🤗 MerryBlooms Aug 2023 #84
Be very glad we still have the VA jmowreader Aug 2023 #85
It's hard to explain what the VA means to me. I will fight for VA. What they've spent to keep me ... marble falls Aug 2023 #90
Me too jmowreader Aug 2023 #98
So glad the docs didn't give up. Wishing you the best. Let us know how things progress. Joinfortmill Aug 2023 #87
Wow. So glad you have a diagnosis and good docs. Feel better soon! chia Aug 2023 #89
I'm sorry you got it, but how did you get it? ananda Aug 2023 #91
Do not know. Haven't been around cattle in more than twenty years, haven't hunted deer in more ... marble falls Aug 2023 #93
Thanks. That's pretty weird. ananda Aug 2023 #110
You symptoms and illness patterns seem oddly like CFS BSdetect Aug 2023 #95
There is a LONG list of symptoms and I had every one of them. nothing by itself was worth going ... marble falls Aug 2023 #96
I hope the medics can help get you cured fully. I must be hell. BSdetect Aug 2023 #97
I think it is under control ... marble falls Aug 2023 #106
WOW! Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2023 #99
That's so unusual for a doctor to stay with something until they find the cause! BComplex Aug 2023 #100
The right doctors are critical and I have been beyond fortunate in that regard. marble falls Aug 2023 #107
So glad you've advanced to a diagnosis, Marble! Now focused Hortensis Aug 2023 #101
Wow! what a story. So glad they caught it. That is really scary rurallib Aug 2023 #103
Don't apologize, that was information that was good. Allergies can kill. A brain flash ... marble falls Aug 2023 #109
Doctors tend not to think about infectious disease unless a patient has travelled recently. milestogo Aug 2023 #105
Getting a Lyme disease diagnosis was tough in the eighties and nineties. People were treated ... ; marble falls Aug 2023 #111
She had an awful time. milestogo Aug 2023 #113
Brucellosis used to be more common LeftInTX Aug 2023 #123
The more we know, the more we need to learn. marble falls Aug 2023 #124
Hunters get it willamette Aug 2023 #108
I knew about it as wasteing disease in deer, but I hadn't hunted in 30 years. marble falls Aug 2023 #112
It got very political willamette Aug 2023 #126
Brucellosis is not the same as deer wasting. LeftInTX Aug 2023 #128
Wow, sorry to hear that Clash City Rocker Aug 2023 #114
DU has been very important to my survival since my first health scares in '17. I know prayers and .. marble falls Aug 2023 #116
I am glad you finally got diagnosed mercuryblues Aug 2023 #115
So glad someone listened and made the effort to arrive at the real diagnosis. diva77 Aug 2023 #117

flamingdem

(40,888 posts)
1. So critical that you got your diagnosis
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:07 PM
Aug 2023

I wonder how this could have happened. Sounds like you'll feel better soon!

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
6. About the time of the first ER I bought Bulgarian Feta through Amazon, and I may have sampled ...
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:11 PM
Aug 2023

... some artisanal cheeses at a farmer's markets, there are those who harvest their own milk products.

These are the only two things I can think of.

Ms. Toad

(38,635 posts)
29. I was going to suggest cheese as a possible source.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:05 AM
Aug 2023

Raw milk cheese has been a fad in recent years.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
54. I am a fan, but I have to actually know the maker and that the cows are regullarly inspected - ...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:17 AM
Aug 2023

... actually see the cows and see the inspection tag on the animal, something I haven't been able to do since I lived in Iowa - almost thirty years ago.

We're pretty picky about what we eat.

GP6971

(38,013 posts)
2. So sorry to hear this.
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:07 PM
Aug 2023

But from what I've seen, you're a fighter and will get through this. And glad to hear that the VA is being so proactive.

Hang in there!!

calimary

(90,017 posts)
4. I've never heard of that before. Brucellosis.
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:10 PM
Aug 2023

Thanks for the detailed description, though, marble falls. Hope you feel better SOON!



There it is, yet again: learn something new every day!

2naSalit

(102,780 posts)
5. Yikes!
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:10 PM
Aug 2023

At least you know what it is now!

Brucellosis is rare in humans. It is now also found in some cattle and also wild game such as elk and bison but doesn't survive long after leaving the host.

But dairy products that you may have consumed or used in some way could have been contaminated from however long ago the disease showed up.

Sorry to hear about this but your described symptoms are very much like others have described.

2naSalit

(102,780 posts)
12. Something like that...
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:22 PM
Aug 2023

Though considering the breakdown of regulatory system in handling dairy and meat products, I suspect it can come from any number of places and I expect cases to rise in the future as well.

lonely bird

(2,941 posts)
62. Just remember
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 08:00 AM
Aug 2023

Regulations are “onerous”.

Just ask Republicans and libertarians.

Now, where did I put my sarcasm button?

MLAA

(19,743 posts)
7. Wow, just wow. So glad your medical team hung in there until they figured it out.
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:11 PM
Aug 2023


As long as your skin doesn’t turn Orange! That is not a good look!

LoisB

(13,027 posts)
10. Goodness. That's a new one on me but I am so glad you got a definitive diagnosis. I hope
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:16 PM
Aug 2023

treatment goes well and you recover 100%; meanwhile, hang in there - sending good vibes.

mountain grammy

(29,034 posts)
11. Oh no.. what an ordeal
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:21 PM
Aug 2023

I am so sorry, but glad they figured it out. How bizarre.

keep on going and hope you're feeling better now that they know what they're treating.

Missed you marble falls.. get well soon.

marybourg

(13,640 posts)
13. This must have been much more common in the 1950's, because
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:23 PM
Aug 2023

it’s one of the diseases we learned about in our H.S. health class in that era. Along with Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, (in NYC.)

sheshe2

(97,620 posts)
15. You have a great team going for you at the VA, marble falls.
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:24 PM
Aug 2023

I am so glad that they finally have a diagnosis.

Get the rest you need and know we are all here for you.

Ziggysmom

(4,123 posts)
16. I grew up on a farm, our vet always said dogs can carry Brucellosis, too. Pigs, goats, sheep
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:25 PM
Aug 2023

and cattle more often, though. Many hunters are unaware they can also catch it when dressing deer, elk or moose.

Wishing you a speedy recovery

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
71. I just learned about dogs, because they roll in dead animals and I was aware of "wasting disease: ..
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:29 AM
Aug 2023

... deer, I knew there was a chance of getting it from field dressing a deer with it. But I did not know how serious it could be in humans.

At least it isn't contact contagious between humans, I may have had it for 18 months and my wife is as active and involved as ever.

mchill

(1,188 posts)
17. Thank you for sharing
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:27 PM
Aug 2023

And then just possibly from a sample of cheese. I will forever think of this if I should ever consider eating unpasteurized anything.

When I was 18 I was dx with bubonic plague. Very unusual but I had a sumner job with the Forest Service, living near Lake Almanor, CA and living in a tent cabin in an area where it was endemic within the chipmunk population and in a bad year—transmitted thru a flea bite. Luckily I went home the weekend before getting sick and had access to a doctor.
1976. It was bad.

My gf got Bordetella when her office mate brought a litter of kittens she was fostering to her office. It went undiagnosed for so long she has complicating lifelong issues. I think we discount Zoonitic diseases but they are out there.

barbtries

(31,307 posts)
26. just to build on your experiences,
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:56 PM
Aug 2023

As a clinical study monitor I had an expanded access (or compassionate use - my company provided an unapproved drug) patient who had required a double lung transplant after contracting avian pneumonitis, also known as "bird fancier's disease" - the patient got it from pet exotic birds such as cockatoos, parrots, etc. I don't think i ever learned exactly what birds the patient owned. At any rate the disease destroyed the patient's lungs.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
75. I've gotten more pet adverse as I've gotten older. Only dogs and cats, and only rescued ...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:55 AM
Aug 2023

... and sheltered, and neutered and spayed; with cats kept indoors.

I'll never be PETA level, but I am closer than I ever thought I would be.

mchill

(1,188 posts)
120. Atlantic magazine had an article
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 10:55 PM
Aug 2023

Saying all cat owners had toxoplasmosis in their brains. Yes they did. I also wonder about mycoplasma. All three of my cats (all indoors ) have it, as carriers and with occasional outbreaks. They all got it from outdoor cat I brought them home to. I suggested to my PA, just yesterday, my suddenly painful knee joints could be related. She didn’t seem to want to go with it even though she’s whip smart and passed her Boards number one in the nation.

Viruses are sneaking little beasts!!

barbtries

(31,307 posts)
131. I can relate to that.
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 12:48 PM
Aug 2023

I've always been fearful of having a bird as a pet, but at this point I wouldn't consider it. I'm down to just dogs after a lifetime as a cat lady lol

still love cats, just hate catboxes. over it.

mchill

(1,188 posts)
119. Is that the same as Avian flu?
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 10:48 PM
Aug 2023

Which is pandemic in the bird populations right now. Very deadly. No bird feeders for me this year. For the birds and me.

barbtries

(31,307 posts)
130. No, it's not related to wild birds
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 12:46 PM
Aug 2023

it's from pet exotic birds such as parrots, cockatoos, macaws, etc.

I don't have any information about whether the Avian flu is in humans.

mchill

(1,188 posts)
132. The Avian flu is deadly to humans
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 02:49 PM
Aug 2023

Right now Public Health is tracking bird deaths due to Avian flu for that reason. Avian flu does not discriminate between domestic, exotic, or wild birds. Pneumonia is one symptom of Avian flu.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
72. I know there's bubonic plague up in the four corners (AZ, NM, CO, UT), never though of it in CA!
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:40 AM
Aug 2023

I take care of a colony of ferals: neutering and feeding. Yikes!

Doing the right things has consequences that are risky, too. Thanks for your public service, by the way!

niyad

(132,440 posts)
19. I had actually heard of the disease, but knew nothing about it. So very thankful
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:31 PM
Aug 2023

that your primary, and the VA, kept going until they found an answer. Sending vibes for swift and complete recovery.

greatauntoftriplets

(179,005 posts)
21. At least you finally have a diagnosis.
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:34 PM
Aug 2023

That's a start so they can start treating you with the right medications. It's scary not knowing what's wrong with you and when treatment after treatment fails.

No more eating cheeses that may be unpasteurized, if indeed that's how you got it. I'm so sorry that you've been through this.

barbtries

(31,307 posts)
23. what a nightmare for you!
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:46 PM
Aug 2023

I hope this round of meds makes you well.

I'd been through a long period of recurrent UTIs and had more than one doctor who did not actually respect my long history with them, until finally last year I got a urologist who listened and respected me. She even tried a dilatation and I was so grateful and hopeful at that point that this would work (which it had for 10 years from ages 28-38). However, it did not and soon I had another infection and when that came back as ESBL e coli (multi-drug resistant "super bug&quot , she said okay we need to remove your kidney stones.

The stones had been there for at least 10 years and I had repeatedly been told that they were in diverticula and not causing a problem for me so no treatment required.

The stones were removed in January, it is now August and I have not had a UTI this year. The only worry now is the stones coming back and she's working with me to do everything possible to preclude that. We have not done any kind of study to see whether my body is otherwise colonized with the super bug, but all signs as of today point to it having originated from just one of the 3 stones I had.

I am not exaggerating when I say I love that doctor. I do. I love her. I'm really happy that you have a doctor who's that good, it makes a huge difference. I can imagine the frustration you've been enduring as I went through that with my issue, but on a much smaller scale.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
76. It is most imprtant to get a doctor that listens to you, as it is important to listen to yourself ..
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:13 PM
Aug 2023

... I have been so fortunate with the physicians I've had at VA. They listen to me and they advocated for me with the bureaucracy (men). The best ones have all been women. All were immigrants. I am so glad they were here when I really, really needed it.

The worst experience I had was with a Brigadier General (retiring at the end of the month). He gave me a prescription that muddled any bacteria reading and as a side effect made me confused and unable to form sentences or hold thoughts to speak. But it made his work look clean.

My primary care physician couldn't tell me to stop using it, but she recommended I stop. It cleared up the mind fog in a few days. The infectious disease doctor also expressed doubt in why he would have prescribed it when we doing doing my history.


When I was a national sales manager of a fire rated window company, I told my sales force to not try to make an appointment with the boss until they talked to his secretary/PA/office manager first. It was more important information-wise to talk to the woman who knew what was going on than to the man in charge.

progressoid

(53,179 posts)
24. Yikes, I haven't heard about that since that Warren Zevon song
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 11:47 PM
Aug 2023

[Verse 1]
Grandpa pissed his pants again
He don't give a damn
Brother Billy has both guns drawn
He ain't been right since Vietnam

[Chorus]
"Sweet home Alabama"
Play that dead band's song
Turn those speakers up full blast
Play it all night long

[Instrumental Break]

[Verse 2]
Daddy's doing Sister Sally
Grandma's dying of cancer now
The cattle all have brucellosis
We'll get through somehow

[Chorus]
"Sweet home Alabama"
Play that dead band's song
Turn those speakers up full blast
Play it all night long

[Instrumental Break]

Ms. Toad

(38,635 posts)
27. Glad you got a diagnosis -
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:04 AM
Aug 2023

and that there are options for treatment!

My daughter had liver issues since middle school - it took her until her first year in college to identify what it was because none of the symptoms were specific, they were all over the place, and none - alone - were signfiicant enough to get anyone interested in solving the puzzle. That's really tough

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
55. I am grateful for the immigrant women doctors, mainly Moslem, who've been taking taking care of ...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:27 AM
Aug 2023

... me at VA these last twelve years. The infectious disease doctor is from Taiwan and looks young enough to be on a high school volleyball team. She is a bulldog, she really went at this thing and figured it out in a week after at least 10 other doctors didn't over 18 months.

The cure is antibiotics and course of one month.

I really cannot say enough good things about VA and the people who've taken such good care of me.

spanone

(141,607 posts)
30. Wow sorry about that, my wife just got hit by this last thursday 1AM...never heard of it...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:05 AM
Aug 2023

We're in ICU tonight, ER doctor said he saw one case all last year. Thank Goddess for Dr. Greenberg 🙏🏻

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Lars39

(26,540 posts)
31. I'm so glad they finally figured it out.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:12 AM
Aug 2023

And I hope the antibiotics wipe it out asap.
VA docs are great.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
32. Here's to speedy recovery. That sounds like a tough condition to diagnose. Glad
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:13 AM
Aug 2023

docs and you stuck with it.

herding cats

(20,049 posts)
33. I'm so glad you have a diagnosis and treatment plan!
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:16 AM
Aug 2023

When you were absent, as I'm sure you recall, several of us from MIRT were PMing you and concerned. Myself included. It's a great relief to know you now know what it is and can get rid of it once and for all.

I'm not being holier than thou here, but unpasteurized anything scares the pants off of me due to an illness a family member endured. It may have been the same thing even, I'm not sure. The symptoms were similar and it just kept coming back again and again. They ended up with chronic pancreatitis (which is a cruel condition).

Ligyron

(8,006 posts)
42. They're not required to pasturize the milk used in cheese in a lot of europe.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 01:12 AM
Aug 2023

Or so I've heard.

The cheese does taste different/better.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
73. But EU standards are tough and enforced seriously. Bulgaria is EU but it is also a little backward..
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:45 AM
Aug 2023

... thanks to the USSR and Russia. Their feta is worlds better than anyone's else. But it's back to domestic feta, even if it's hard to find in brine. It's not worth the risk.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
92. Good to know you're switching back to domestic intake.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 02:12 PM
Aug 2023

You're right, if for the sake of "world's better than anyone else" you get this kind of sick, then it's not better and not worth the risk. Here's to your getting better soon.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
94. As I've gotten older, I've learned to manage risk. I've gone from careful and picky to risk adverse
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 02:20 PM
Aug 2023

But the Bulgarian feta tastes and has the best mouth feel of all being made with pure sheep milk is cheapest, next Greek feta, next and most expensive French feta which is yuk, then US which is cow milk and very seldom sold in brine.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
102. Good. Because
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 04:45 PM
Aug 2023

not all umami foods are good for any of us. As you know about ultra-processed foods.

Humans are ominivores, true, but their bodies need a balance between blander nutritious foods and their taste desires.

Like my old Tai Chi teacher used to say back in the day, "All things in moderation, including moderation!" We'd chuckle but he made an important point!

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
78. Trust me: I never intentionally consumed unpasturised milk products! And the GOP wants to ...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:19 PM
Aug 2023

... eliminate all regulatory agencies and regulations!

herding cats

(20,049 posts)
127. I didn't mean to imply you did!
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 02:31 AM
Aug 2023

I was just sharing a phobia of mine with you. That stuff can sneak in and next thing you know you're truly extremely ill.

I don't even do those delicious looking fresh cheeses at wineries. You just never know for sure if someone is sneaking in unpasteurized milks. If I don't know the brand and their history I'm scared to eat it these days. Unpasteurized is in some ways becoming a weird cult thing and I want zero part of it.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
129. I am sure I've unknowingly tasted unpasturised cheese a one farmer's market or another in Austin ...
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 05:21 AM
Aug 2023

... at the same time, I used to drink unpasteurized milk and eat farmer's cheese in Ohio back in the day, 70's and 80's.

These were serious producers I knew personally, who had regularly county inspected sheds, and certified and regularly state inspected livestock.

Some of the natural foodies here in Texas are RW bootleggers or misguided lefties that avoid regulators and regulations. And I avoid all of them out of caution. As you know, food poisoning is a bad, bad thing.

johnp3907

(4,307 posts)
34. I only know brucellosis from that Warren Zevon song.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:24 AM
Aug 2023

I didn't know humans could get it. I hope you feel better soon.

justgamma

(3,693 posts)
35. Thank goodness you found out.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:26 AM
Aug 2023

I expect Iowa will have an outbreak soon. Kim signed a law legalizing the sale of raw milk. I must confess I love the taste of it. Haven't had it for I'm guessing 40 years.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
74. I drank it in Ohio and Iowa, but I knew the makers, knew their kitchens were inspected regularly, ..
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:50 AM
Aug 2023

Last edited Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:20 PM - Edit history (1)

... and that their milk cows were monitored and tagged regularly. About 40 years ago.

Food is no place to fool around. Enforced regulations work well. Something that the GOP seems to have forgotten, remembering good old days that never existed.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
104. "...remembering good old days that never existed."
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:36 PM
Aug 2023

There's an epidemic of that. Been going on for decades. In the fifties they longed for the twenties. Good old days.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
37. You know, you sound like
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:31 AM
Aug 2023

just the sweetest patient. You have said the kindest things about your medical team. I have learned from your illness description and the clarity with which you presented it.

Fla Dem

(27,633 posts)
39. OMG marble falls what an ordeal you've been through.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:39 AM
Aug 2023

Last edited Mon Aug 7, 2023, 10:22 AM - Edit history (1)

My heart goes out to you. I’m going through something similar where I’m being tested but doc’s don’t have a handle on what’s causing my symptoms. But nowhere close to the intensity or severity of what you are dealing with.

I hope your health problems are quickly and fully identified and a course of action implemented to give you full recovery and get you back to your normal self.
Please keep us up to date as often as you can.
Hugs and good wishes.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
79. And I wish the same for you, I especially pray one of your doctors gets that moment of clarity ...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:23 PM
Aug 2023

... that illuminates the problem. I know how tough it can be waiting for it!

Solly Mack

(96,941 posts)
43. I hope for the best. Wow. That's one terrible horrible ordeal.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 01:13 AM
Aug 2023

I'm so sorry but I'm glad your doctors did work so hard to help you.

Ligyron

(8,006 posts)
44. What a %#@ nightmare you've lived through!
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 01:18 AM
Aug 2023

Well, at least you have a diagnosis and are on a treatment protocol for this horror.

i.e., the worst is over now.

Be well soon...

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
45. So relieved that you finally have a diagnosis, my friend! Wishing you a return to good health!
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 01:23 AM
Aug 2023

You have to know that we couldn't manage without you!

orleans

(36,912 posts)
48. what a relief that you were finally diagnosed
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 01:48 AM
Aug 2023

and how sad/crazy what it turned out to be

i'm glad you're finally able to start feeling better with the proper treatment

take it easy. feel better soon soon soon!

 

RussellCattle

(1,928 posts)
49. "Warmed over patootie" tells me that you've still got your sense of humor. Hope you're well soon.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 02:02 AM
Aug 2023

BigOleDummy

(2,274 posts)
50. Good health
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 02:10 AM
Aug 2023

to you!
Loved how you gave a shut out to the V.A. system , they have ALWAYS been great to/for me.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
88. Most people who pass bad stories are usually non-Vets who are telling second and third hand ...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 01:01 PM
Aug 2023

... scuttlebutt. They're trying to advocate for us but they got bad information. The truth is: get Congress and politics out of it and do not privatize it!

Lonestarblue

(13,477 posts)
51. So sorry to hear you've been ill for so long.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 05:09 AM
Aug 2023

Thanks for all the information. I know I will now be a bit more wary about things like eating cheese samples at a farmers’ market. Hope your meds knock this out for good.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
52. Glad there's light at the end of the tunnel Marble Falls
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:02 AM
Aug 2023

Sounds horrid, hope you feel better soon

BumRushDaShow

(169,736 posts)
53. Wow.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:13 AM
Aug 2023

I'm glad someone was able to nail down the cause of that ordeal. I know there is a large segment of the population here and abroad who demand "natural", and that includes unpasteurized dairy products. Raw milk is not permitted to be shipped across state lines as FYI. Lawsuits challenging the ban included a highly publicized big one just over a decade ago, which was dismissed. There have been continual lawsuits since then. Trying to catch this from imports can be difficult because imports sampling is limited.

I know cheese was mentioned but it's also something that could be in any unpasteurized milk product including yogurt or sour cream, or ice cream. And I can see where such could slide into farmer's markets or roadside stands (including vendors who make small batch finished products for sale that contain it).

Some info here.



Given your own medical history, you were definitely more susceptible.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
82. Trust me, I'll take what's in the bag - it's good shit! ...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:28 PM
Aug 2023

I still listen to the cassettes.

"He's no fun, he fell right over!"

Vinca

(53,990 posts)
60. Wow - what a rare diagnosis. You'll bounce back once they pump you with antibiotics.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 07:30 AM
Aug 2023

This sounds somewhat like undiagnosed, advance Lyme and it takes time to bounce back. Take it easy and get well.

FakeNoose

(41,631 posts)
61. It must be reassuring to finally put a name on this problem
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 07:50 AM
Aug 2023

I'm not a doctor and I've never heard of brucellosis, but it sounds really awful. It least you're past the scariest part when you know there's something wrong, and you've no idea what it is.

Now you know, and the doctors can help make you healthy again.

Here's hoping the recovery part is quick and pain-free. Best of luck my friend!

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
86. It makes a real difference. I was starting to think it was all psychosomatic, I was pretty down ...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:57 PM
Aug 2023

... just before my first appointment with the infectious disease doctor.

bucolic_frolic

(55,129 posts)
64. All the best to you, and thanks for reinforcement of the poorly performing MD diagnostic system
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 08:33 AM
Aug 2023

Been there, not with that disease. If they haven't seen it recently, or it's not on a CDC alert recently, or Big Pharma reps aren't touting it, it probably never happens so why worry about it?

Niagara

(11,850 posts)
65. Glad to hear that you have a diagnosis, marble falls.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 08:58 AM
Aug 2023

Take one day at a time and wishing you a quick recovery and continous healing vibes!


Pacifist Patriot

(25,212 posts)
68. Wow! I'm very sorry to hear this, but gratified you got a diagnosis and a path forward.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 10:39 AM
Aug 2023

Not knowing what is going on is the worst!!!

appalachiablue

(44,022 posts)
69. Good for your medical team & whoop that Brucellosis bug away. Take care, all the best.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 10:42 AM
Aug 2023

Get in touch when you can, you're needed.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,206 posts)
70. It has a huge number of synonyms
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:18 AM
Aug 2023

Also known as undulant fever, Malta fever, Gibraltar fever, Bang's disease, or Mediterranean fever (in animals, at any rate - I'm not sure if all those are used with humans too), and, formerly, Rock, Cyprus, Neapolitan, Italian, or Crimean fever.. Different species of the Brucella genus can be found in dogs, goats, sheep, pigs and even reindeer and caribou, as well as cattle.

CousinIT

(12,538 posts)
77. What an ordeal! But - you have the diagnosis and now hopefully can be treated..
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:18 PM
Aug 2023

...and get back to your normal self! Wishing you well and soon.

crickets

(26,168 posts)
83. I am so sorry to hear you've been going through this, marble falls.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:48 PM
Aug 2023

Glad to hear you've been diagnosed and are getting the proper treatment now. I hope you're feeling better soon!

jmowreader

(53,193 posts)
85. Be very glad we still have the VA
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:56 PM
Aug 2023

It’s not likely the civilian medical system would have even looked for that. The VA’s patient base goes to the world’s garden spots, so they’re used to unusual diseases.

I hope you feel better soon.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
90. It's hard to explain what the VA means to me. I will fight for VA. What they've spent to keep me ...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 01:26 PM
Aug 2023

... alive up to this point brings me to tears and how quickly they found this thing is amazing.

Being in the VA/Temple for my 2017 colon cancer was one of the best experiences in my life. It showed me what an open society we could be. I was so well taken care of by any sort of segment of society one could imagine. No matter who it was I was treated like an individual. and no matter what person was working there, there was an appreciated place for them to be working. It was a level of total equality I never thought I'd see in my lifetime. I will never forget how much the IC nurses from all over the planet and this country treated me like I was their loved grandfather. It made a difference in my recovery.

Best thing I ever did was enlist, the next best thing is being in VA.

jmowreader

(53,193 posts)
98. Me too
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 03:31 PM
Aug 2023

The VA physician who cared for me after my appendix burst told me he has both a private practice and a VA practice, and he likes working at the VA a lot more. In private practice when he needs to order something for a patient, he always thinks two things: will the patient's insurance cover this, and can the patient afford to pay for it out of pocket if they won't. At VA, he can do whatever the patient needs without worrying about reimbursement.

Some people's bodies will build up a thick film of mucous around the appendix when it's getting ready to burst to protect them from getting peritonitis, and mine is one of those. They told me this was "a textbook case, as in the only place any of us have ever seen it is in a textbook." They fucking FLEW DOCTORS IN from the other VA hospitals in the region while I was in the hospital so they could see an actual patient that this had happened to. And then they told me straight out, "in a civilian hospital they would have immediately operated and you'd be laid up for three months. We're going to feed you antibiotics for a month before we operate. It'll be far easier that way." And as it turned out, it was: they took out my appendix on a Monday and I was back at work on Thursday.

Joinfortmill

(21,162 posts)
87. So glad the docs didn't give up. Wishing you the best. Let us know how things progress.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:58 PM
Aug 2023

I prayed for you. It can't hurt.

ananda

(35,141 posts)
91. I'm sorry you got it, but how did you get it?
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 02:06 PM
Aug 2023

You said you didn't deal with anything to do with
cattle or unpasteurized milk.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
93. Do not know. Haven't been around cattle in more than twenty years, haven't hunted deer in more ...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 02:17 PM
Aug 2023

... thirty years, I don't think I rubbed a cattle dog or a dog that rolled in the remains of a deer with it, I may have sampled an artisan cheese at a farmers market or it may have been a feta cheese I got from Bulgaria just before the first ER trip 18 months ago. I've ordered it before and since, my wife has eaten it with no ill effect.

I haven't purposely consumed raw milk in forty years and then I personally knew the people who milked the cows, I knew their milk shed was monitored by the county and inspected regularly and their cows were certified and inspected by the state regularly.

I am very picky about what I eat and where it comes from.

I haven't a clue.

BSdetect

(9,048 posts)
95. You symptoms and illness patterns seem oddly like CFS
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 02:20 PM
Aug 2023

My friend had been diagnosed with CFS for decades but this does seem very much like his history.

Difficult diagnosis.


marble falls

(71,919 posts)
96. There is a LONG list of symptoms and I had every one of them. nothing by itself was worth going ...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 02:33 PM
Aug 2023

... to ER about but when foru or five of the right ones got together it was pure murder and I went into the ER, twice.

This has been a miserable 18 months with a 6 month subsidence from June to November last year.

I was starting to get very discouraged in the last month.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(16,211 posts)
99. WOW!
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 03:52 PM
Aug 2023

Glad they found out the root cause. Hope you recover soon. Good health is right up there with good neighbors and good family relationships in having a good life.

BComplex

(9,913 posts)
100. That's so unusual for a doctor to stay with something until they find the cause!
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 03:53 PM
Aug 2023

For those of us who get weird reactions or weird symptoms quite often, doctors that actually stay with it until they get it, are rare and precious.

I hope everything starts getting turned around for you, marble falls!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
101. So glad you've advanced to a diagnosis, Marble! Now focused
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 04:23 PM
Aug 2023

treatment, cure, rehabilitation. I love your PCP just from reading your story.

rurallib

(64,688 posts)
103. Wow! what a story. So glad they caught it. That is really scary
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 05:14 PM
Aug 2023

For some reason I hate the taste of milk and the idea of drinking milk from another species, so outside of a rare ice cream cone on a hot day I stay far from milk products. (BTW, my dad was a milk man)

My son-in-law has a really rare disease that confounded doctors around the country until someone figured it out in Tucson about two years ago.He was having severe reactions to certain foods. The list of foods he appeared to be allergic to seemed to grow damn near exponentially. His allowable foods were getting to be a very narrow list.

I can't remember all the details but he passed out in his office one morning. His secretary had the sense to call an ambulance and they were able to get him to a hospital and keep him alive. That was on a Monday morning. His blood pressure was extremely low.

Many doctors checked on him and worked on a diagnosis. No one had a clue. The symptoms were scattered and didn't point to anything. They sent him home on Friday, with some monitors.

Then on Sunday afternoon about 5PM one of the doctors had a brain flash and checked it out: mastocytosis. When he had an allergic reaction, mast cells would attack his body in an out of control fashion that can kill.

What he had to do was get on Zyrtec daily and greatly lessen any allergic attack. The doctor called him immediately and told him to get to a drug store before they closed at 5PM and get Zyrtec plus another medication she ordered.

As long as he takes that Zyrtec he's pretty good. He gets some food allergy problems, but the reactions are mild by comparison.

Fortunately there is a mastocytosis specialist in Tucson. When he had a mast cell count his numbers were at the top 1% some 10X higher than normal. Had he gotten covid it would hav killed him.

When he did eventually get covid he had had 2 rounds of vaccines and was taking his Zyrtec so he got only mild symptoms.

He was so lucky

Sorry to go on about that.

So good to hear you at least know what the enemy looks like.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
109. Don't apologize, that was information that was good. Allergies can kill. A brain flash ...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 07:02 PM
Aug 2023

... from a doctor is good thing. A couple of different brain flashes have made life easier.

The lesson is don't stop looking just because the answer isn't forthcoming. The first doctors to treat his thing in the ER went with the obvious because of my medical history. My primary care physician was stumped but she knew something was wrong and she shook trees to get me to the right person. That person had a flash she wasn't sure of but followed up in and in one week we had a handle on a problem that wasn't looked for before.

thanks for relating that close call.

milestogo

(23,078 posts)
105. Doctors tend not to think about infectious disease unless a patient has travelled recently.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:47 PM
Aug 2023

I knew someone with Lyme Disease who was not properly diagnosed for years. She had gotten the tick byte as a teenager but didn't get sick till after her first child was born. They gave her every diagnosis in the book, some of them psychosomatic. One doctor said she had a personality disorder.

I'm glad you got the right doctor and the right diagnosis at last.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
111. Getting a Lyme disease diagnosis was tough in the eighties and nineties. People were treated ... ;
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 07:09 PM
Aug 2023

... like they made it up.

I actually wondered if I wasn't being psychosomatic myself last week. That I had worried myself into this.

milestogo

(23,078 posts)
113. She had an awful time.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 07:49 PM
Aug 2023

The tick bite with bullseye happened when she was 13. She had her 1st child at 31 and got sick post partum. At first it was post partum depression, then bipolar disorder, then hypoglycemia.... on and on. When she was finally diagnosed with Lyme Disease the doctors argued about how to treat it. It had been in her system for 18 years before she was symptomatic. Her husband ended up finding an out of state specialist.

Its really awful having doctors tell you its all in your head.

LeftInTX

(34,286 posts)
123. Brucellosis used to be more common
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 12:11 AM
Aug 2023
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/animalhealth/nvap/NVAP-Reference-Guide/Control-and-Eradication/Brucellosis#:~:text=Last%20Modified%3A%20May%2030%2C%202023,bacteria%20of%20the%20genus%20Brucella.

There have been control efforts over the decades and a bovine vaccine is available.

________________________

In other cattle news: Vampire bats are making their way into South Texas from Mexico. USDA is down in South Texas (Del Rio- Brownsville) at cattle auctions checking for blood streaks. Once they have been confirmed, ranchers will need to determine if they need to vaccinate cattle against rabies. https://agrilife.org/txwildlifeservices/files/2021/04/Vampire-Bats-in-Texas.pdf

willamette

(182 posts)
108. Hunters get it
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:55 PM
Aug 2023

Hunters get it from butchering infected game animals. In Montana, we heard about it in elk and bison all of the time. A truly nasty disease.

willamette

(182 posts)
126. It got very political
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 01:01 AM
Aug 2023

It was over a decade ago - I don't know the situation there now - but they were killing the bison, and then giving them to the Tribes, instead of giving them the live animals. They weren't doing the same to the elk, and that's where most of the infected hunters were getting the disease. The implication was that there was big money in elk, and continued oppression in denying the live animals, which could be used in a breeding program.

LeftInTX

(34,286 posts)
128. Brucellosis is not the same as deer wasting.
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 02:43 AM
Aug 2023

Deering wasting is related to mad cow disease. (Prion based -Encephalopathy...)

https://www.cdc.gov/prions/index.html

Never eat brain or spinal cord of mammals. I don't care how good the barbacoa is!

Clash City Rocker

(3,546 posts)
114. Wow, sorry to hear that
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 09:57 PM
Aug 2023

One of the scariest thing a doctor can tell you is “I don’t know what it is.” Brucellosis can be treated with antibiotics, but I hear it can occasionally come back, so be careful. Prayers and good vibes going out to you.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
116. DU has been very important to my survival since my first health scares in '17. I know prayers and ..
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 10:14 PM
Aug 2023

... energy work.

diva77

(7,880 posts)
117. So glad someone listened and made the effort to arrive at the real diagnosis.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 10:25 PM
Aug 2023

I had a physician who thought I was being dramatic when I went to see her thinking I had broken my foot. Being skeptical, she made me walk across campus to the farthest building to get an xray (a long, painful walk). She was surprised to learn that the foot was broken.

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