JUST IN: Trump has filed his response to the special counsel's motion for a protective order.

[kpete]

Link to tweet

?s=20
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23901780-trumporder

[lindysalsagal]

1. I refuse to join xwitter. Can someone summarize?

[kpete]

3. here:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23901780-trumporder

[lindysalsagal]

7. Oh, dam. I'm not attempting that.

[brooklynite]

19. You're not going to....read the filing?

[emulatorloo]

37. No, you're supposed to read it for them and provide an executive summary. /s

[brooklynite]

47. "Once upon a time...."

[Alliepoo]

55. I tried!

I have only a cell phone- it’s too difficult to see on my little screen!!

[Bev54]

22. That is where the document is publicly filed for all to read.

It will take you to the document itself.

[Conjuay]

31. I have to get in front of a monitor.

I'm not reading this on a cellphone 😵

[emulatorloo]

38. Here's an article about it.

Trump lawyers seek to narrow special counsel's proposed protective order in election case
https://democraticunderground.com/10143111151

[Tarc]

59. You're not attempting...words?

[chowder66]

4. When I click on the document it goes to Document Cloud and not Twitter.

[Jilly_in_VA]

5. You don't have to join X

You can find it online. Idk how, exactly, but spousal unit does it all the time.

[Brother Buzz]

13. Forget X - Hit the second link for the entire 29 page document

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23901780-trumporder

[Kennah]

2. Sharpie or Crayon?

[dweller]

29. Ketchup

n/t




✌🏻

[RB77]

36. Thank You

Te- He

[electric_blue68]

63. Ba-Dum-TISHhh!

😄

[YDogg]

6. Who is this "President" Trump referred to in the response?

Could that be mister trump?

[Jilly_in_VA]

8. I hope the answer to this reads

"Fuck you. Get in here within 24 hours or the cops will be coming for you with cuffs." Or the equivalent.

[brooklynite]

20. Trump was never obliged to show up for this pre-trial hearing.

[dalton99a]

9. Yep

[Alexander Of Assyria]

12. All these motions and responses, all emails, have nothing to do with jailing anyone.

[Bev54]

24. No the protective order is standard but Trump lawyers are trying to get a hearing

on this which just being used to delay, delay, delay which is his standard.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

60. Wasn't the point of that particular post

Dalton99a was pointing out the ridiculous use of "president" before the not-president's name.

[usedtobedemgurl]

10. For those of us who have trouble processing/understanding stuff....

Can someone please summarize? Treat me like a brain injured 5 year old, please. I am not five but have a brain injury.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

14. Main issue is defining sensitive materials and how to deal with them.

Red lining p refers to a proposed protective order by the prosecution, to which the defence responds by literally redlining any opposition…the parties discuss their differences and a final version is sent to the judge, or if there are disputes remaining, the judge decides.

No mention of contempt or jail or bail changes…wasn’t at issue.

[usedtobedemgurl]

15. Thank you.

I hate asking to be spoon fed, but my mental capacities went downhill after the accident. I appreciate you.

[triron]

11. This response is a joke.

[Brainfodder]

16. 1st amendment BS and claims false allegations and didn't figure worth reading on at that point!

So as lame as expected.

[Jirel]

17. LOL, they're being ballsy.

I especially love their redline of what "Sensitive Materials" means. It's meant to give Dump basically complete license to discuss any (non-classified) evidence in detail during his campaign as long as the identifying information is filed off.

True store: Way back when I was just a youngster attending DefCon 2 (I feel really old now...), security specialists hired to locate all points of vulnerability by a Vegas casino/hotel, and who were never paid, were presenting. They scrupulously adhered to the limitations that Dump's team is talking about in the filing, when describing the security fiasco they found and the casino's refusal to pay for their report. But their last words at the panel were to identify an innocuous characteristic of their former employer - the color of the casino.

That hotel/casino didn't even know what hit it, in the next 24 hours.

Which is exactly what the Dump team intends. "Personally identifying" information is unnecessary to do damage. After all, how many minutes, precisely, did it take all of us to know the identities of all his unindicted co-conspirators based on the charging documents?

[electric_blue68]

18. As a non-laywer can the judge say "screw you" (in legalize) to drumphf & co?

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

61. Happens all the time

And the real lawyers always know when it does.

[electric_blue68]

62. Ok, good! Ty.

[Disaffected]

21. Thanks but,

who is Fed(erick?) R. Crim??

[Ms. Toad]

26. Federal rules of criminal procedure. n/t

[Disaffected]

43. Disaffected make joke,

fail badly.

[Ms. Toad]

46. OK.

There's enough lack of knowledge about court processes on display over the last few days that it's hard to tell.

[Disaffected]

48. Won't argue (or joke)

about that.

[ShazzieB]

49. It's actually pretty funny, now that I know what Fed R. Crim means!

[Disaffected]

50. Ah, I guess my foray into comedy

wasn't a complete flop. Thank you.

[markpkessinger]

30. It's Fed. R. Crim. P. . . .

. . For "Federal Rules or Criminal Procedure." This is the standard bluebook abbreviation used in the legal industry. In civil suits, you will often see references to "Fed. R. Civ. P.," for "Federal Rules of Civil Procedure."

[Generic Brad]

51. Isn't he a reporter on Ted Lasso?

Fed R Crim - The Independent.

[Jrose]

23. Djt's allies and defenders keep referring to him as "President". Only Biden is now President.

DjT never truly behaved as a president and hopefully will never again impersonate a president from the White House.

By branding him as 'President', his 'lawyers' are attempting to elevate him above the general public and increase a favorable view of him.

[Brainfodder]

27. Favorable views?

[ShazzieB]

52. If that's what they're trying to do, it's really obnoxious and offensive.

I wonder, though, if that was done at 45's insistence. I suspect he is very attached to that title and might try to cling to it to bolster his fragile ego. Also, by all reports, he didn't like it when the magistrate judge called him "Mr." Trump last week!

Either way, it's gross and tacky to use it in an official court document like that.

[choie]

25. "In a trial about First Amendment rights..."

what absolute bullshit

[Conjuay]

28. Well that's their horse

And they intend to flog it

[honest.abe]

33. That was Lauro's go to comment in his CNN interview.

Of course its bullshit but it might confuse some people who dont really understand what the first amendment protects.

[agingdem]

34. so Trump's asshole lawyer is schooling the judge?

no the conspiracy indictments are not about First Amendment rights...and Joe Biden holding/drinking a cup of joe is not a thinly veiled reference to anything..

and so sorry the judge had the audacity to demand a response to Jack Smith's protective order, pulling you away from making the cable network rounds spreading your bogus "technical violations of the Constitution" bullshit defense like it was manure...

[emulatorloo]

39. They mistake the judge for Judge Cannon I guess.

[Irish_Dem]

40. So when does the judge start lecturing Trump and his attorneys?

[agingdem]

42. waiting..waiting

[getagrip_already]

32. Dark Brandon really got in their heads......

He is mentioned in the filing. Boy, is he under their thin skins.

[emulatorloo]

35. That was the dumbest part of their filing. Couldn't beleive how stupid the 'argument' was

[Irish_Dem]

44. They are made that Jack Smith included a copy of Trump's internet threats in his filing.

[cayugafalls]

41. Eh, Jack Smith is going to rip this to shreds. First of all this is not a First Amendment issue and

that is that they argue as being overbroad in the very first section...

I'm no lawyer, but, shouldn't they be trying to cite something based on one of the 4 counts of the indictment?



Oh and...fucking morons.

[CanonRay]

45. Is it tear stained?

[ShazzieB]

53. Rights, schmights.

We all know 45 thinks he should have the "right" to say anything he wants to anyone, about anyone or anything, in any manner, time, or place of his choosing, including, but not limited to, social media, campaign rallies, and TV interviews.

We all also know what 45 is full of, and it ain't just hamberders!

[orangecrush]

54. "President"

[usonian]

56. Question for prospective jurors (and unfortunately, lawyers):

WHO IS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?

There you go.

[Jrose]

57. Djt wasn't a great fan of 1st Amendment rights when peaceful protesters were beaten...

and gassed in D. C. while he, as pseudo-president, waddled to the front of a church and waved a bible upside down.

[Sessuch]

58. Trump's interpretation of the 1st Amendment

Isn't this what got him into big trouble in the first place? He shot his mouth off in Washington and 5th Ave.