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getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
2. Well, if they are his attorneys of course they can see docs....
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:00 PM
Aug 2023

As long as they are registered with the clerk. It doesn't matter if they are pro Bono, paid, or paying him to be on the case.

If they are on his bona fide legal team then they can see what his other lawyers can see, and are bound by the same confidentiality conditions.

Ms. Toad

(38,726 posts)
6. What do you mean "registered with the clerk"?
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:15 PM
Aug 2023

Your analysis is correct, if they have made an appearance in the case.

But in complex litigation, it is unusual for every single attorney working on the matter to have submitted a notice of appearance. This issue is about attorneys (presumably licensed to practice law) who have not submitted a notice of appearance, who have no direct accountability in this case.

I should also add - there are entire 3rd party firms dedicated to document review. None of the attorneys hired by these 3d party firms would file a notice of appearance.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
8. Sorry, I didn't use the correct terminology....
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:20 PM
Aug 2023

I meant that they notified the court they were his attorneys, I assume tha t s what you meant by a notice of appearance.

I hope that any random attorney wouldn't have access to witness testimony and grand jury proceedings. We know what attorneys like the kraken would do with it on the cable shows.

Ms. Toad

(38,726 posts)
9. It is notifying the court that, for the purposes of this matter, they are Trump's attorney.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:26 PM
Aug 2023

Last edited Mon Aug 7, 2023, 07:00 PM - Edit history (1)

And my point is that usually only a handful of attorneys on a matter submit a notice of appearance. These volunteer attorneys (paid or not) will almost certainly not submit a notice of appearance - which is precisely the concern. The court will not know who they are, and will have no way to track who has access - unless Trump notifies the court they are being given access to the material (and possibly asks permission - to avoid folks like Powell). Trump believes this is way too hard.

ETA: Just read the filing (rather than excerpts): Per the proposed order individuals employed by Trump's counsel get the same access as attorneys of record. Attorneys working for 3rd party firms (like document review firms) or volunteer attorneys (who don't necessarily have an ongoing relationship with the firm) have to have consent of court before access.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
3. Ha ha. Ha. Ha ha ha.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:00 PM
Aug 2023

Traditionally, "volunteer" means unpaid. They're ALL going to end up volunteers.

no_hypocrisy

(55,083 posts)
4. Isn't Rudy disbarred in the D.C. Circuit where this case is taking place?
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:05 PM
Aug 2023

He wouldn't be allowed to even review court documents without a law license.

Raven123

(7,858 posts)
5. Perhaps he means the volunteer attorneys in elected office.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 06:11 PM
Aug 2023

Some Representatives and Senators are attorneys already in TFG’s volunteer corp

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