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I_UndergroundPanther

(13,325 posts)
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 08:24 PM Aug 2023

France is going to invade Niger

PARIS, Aug 1 (Reuters) - France began the evacuation of hundreds of French and European citizens from Niger on Tuesday, a day after neighbours Mali and Burkina Faso said any outside intervention to restore the ousted government would be seen as a declaration of war.

A military junta overthrew Niger's democratically elected President Mohamed Bazoum and his government last Wednesday in the seventh military takeover in less than three years in West and Central Africa.



https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/france-start-evacuation-operations-niger-soon-report-french-media-2023-08-01/

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France is going to invade Niger (Original Post) I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2023 OP
War in Africa is coming courtesy of Putler. roamer65 Aug 2023 #1
Yes, he is stirring up trouble anywhere he can. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #2
+1000 roamer65 Aug 2023 #3
We can prevent this by not taking them in Polybius Aug 2023 #39
Many Africans would say "Courtesy of the Colonizers" WarGamer Aug 2023 #4
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. moondust Aug 2023 #5
Should be a cake walk for France... WarGamer Aug 2023 #7
Maybe. moondust Aug 2023 #8
Let the African nations take care of their neighborhood... WarGamer Aug 2023 #11
+1 n/t area51 Aug 2023 #24
France is not going to invade anyone without approval of the ANC. Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 #12
Let's agree not to get involved at all n/t Polybius Aug 2023 #6
What? You don't want the Doomsday Clock to get closer to Zero? WarGamer Aug 2023 #9
Did they move it today? roamer65 Aug 2023 #17
90 seconds to midnight... WarGamer Aug 2023 #18
Not surprised. roamer65 Aug 2023 #19
absolutely agree Celerity Aug 2023 #15
Jeez Joinfortmill Aug 2023 #10
...opinion of the poster on the news...is without factual or logical foundation...more a hope? Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 #13
Other military juntas in the region who recently did coups of their own have pledged to support RockRaven Aug 2023 #14
Putler would love to get Nigeria involved in a war. roamer65 Aug 2023 #16
Well, Victoria Nunland just came back from there after trying to negotiate with the junta. Xolodno Aug 2023 #20
Maybe if Nuland was handing out cookies again... she'd have better luck? WarGamer Aug 2023 #21
did that make you feel good? Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #29
very transparent effort, there, bruh Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #28
So, GOP policy hawks are in your favor? Xolodno Aug 2023 #38
Victoria Nukand is not a GOP hawk--she understands Putin's evil Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #40
Not a GOP hawk? Xolodno Aug 2023 #42
Say hello to 2014 DU for me. nt Tommy Carcetti Aug 2023 #30
The article does not say that France is going to invade Niger DavidDvorkin Aug 2023 #22
Uh UTUSN Aug 2023 #23
Perhaps you should edit your title to indicate that this is your personal opinion? brooklynite Aug 2023 #25
not really- Snooper9 Aug 2023 #26
No they aren't, and the story you posted doesn't say it either. You should change your silly title. PSPS Aug 2023 #27
France is not going to invade Niger. Any Enoki33 Aug 2023 #31
The white imperialists are still dividing and ruling many countries in Africa malaise Aug 2023 #32
The white imperialists are still dividing and ruling many countries in Africa malaise Aug 2023 #33
No, France is removing diplomatic personnel from Niger after a coup and a volatile situation. Tommy Carcetti Aug 2023 #34
Strange false title. DU shouldn't peddle disinformation. tritsofme Aug 2023 #35
Uh, no. BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #36
What do anticolonialists complian about when colonialism ceases to exist? Jose Garcia Aug 2023 #37
The French kicked the Jihadis out of Timbuktu in the 2010s. Mali accepted that help. maxsolomon Aug 2023 #41

Irish_Dem

(79,266 posts)
2. Yes, he is stirring up trouble anywhere he can.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 08:33 PM
Aug 2023

If war in Africa floods Europe with refugees, this will destabilize Europe and help
elect far right candidates.

He most likely is doing what he can to make sure Trump is installed again into the WH.

Polybius

(21,372 posts)
39. We can prevent this by not taking them in
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 09:05 PM
Aug 2023

If we do, the far-right wins and then we all lose.

moondust

(21,177 posts)
5. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 08:42 PM
Aug 2023

Who is "colonizer" France's current enemy?

Ruzzia.

(Just a guess.)

WarGamer

(18,216 posts)
7. Should be a cake walk for France...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 08:49 PM
Aug 2023

They already have experience "cleaning up" their colonies...


"Kill all they send, and they will stop coming"

Nguyen Huu An

1954, Vietnam

WarGamer

(18,216 posts)
11. Let the African nations take care of their neighborhood...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 08:53 PM
Aug 2023

Just like how Europe should have been supplying 80% of Ukraine's needs.

I'd prefer that American factories were producing food and affordable housing rather than 155mm artillery shells.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
12. France is not going to invade anyone without approval of the ANC.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 08:55 PM
Aug 2023

….The recent coups in the region have come amid a wave of vitriol aimed at former colonial power France that resulted in its troops being kicked out of Mali and Burkina Faso this year and last. Many of those soldiers are now stationed in Niger…

Africans everywhere have had enough of all colonialists, that’s a fact.

WarGamer

(18,216 posts)
9. What? You don't want the Doomsday Clock to get closer to Zero?
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 08:51 PM
Aug 2023

As of today, it's the closest it's EVER BEEN to nuclear DOOMSDAY.

WarGamer

(18,216 posts)
18. 90 seconds to midnight...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 09:12 PM
Aug 2023

Since January 2023.

FWIW, at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis, it was 7 minutes to Midnight.

The Ukraine War and Western involvement, combined with Climate change and Disease.

RockRaven

(18,617 posts)
14. Other military juntas in the region who recently did coups of their own have pledged to support
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 08:57 PM
Aug 2023

the Niger junta in case of any Western intervention. We shall see how much they deliver on those pledges...

roamer65

(37,813 posts)
16. Putler would love to get Nigeria involved in a war.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 08:58 PM
Aug 2023

Just to get their oil production knocked off line. We would be back over $100/bbl.

Xolodno

(7,289 posts)
20. Well, Victoria Nunland just came back from there after trying to negotiate with the junta.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 09:36 PM
Aug 2023

They basically told her to fuck off.

But as the old joke goes, if Victoria Nunland visits your country, hang on, you are about to have a civil war. They were probably calling up Wagner as soon as she got off the plane.

Xolodno

(7,289 posts)
38. So, GOP policy hawks are in your favor?
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 08:37 PM
Aug 2023

In that case, you should check out this guy call John Bolton, he wrote a book recently. You might like him if your into "bomb first, ask questions later" type of person.

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
40. Victoria Nukand is not a GOP hawk--she understands Putin's evil
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 01:58 PM
Aug 2023

and can identify what needs to happen in other hot spots often agitated by Putin and/or Xi.

DavidDvorkin

(20,473 posts)
22. The article does not say that France is going to invade Niger
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 09:39 PM
Aug 2023

Only that France is using military aircraft to evacuate its citizens. That is not an invasion.

Invasion was being talked about by some of Niger's neighbors, but that's beginning to look unlikely.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
25. Perhaps you should edit your title to indicate that this is your personal opinion?
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:00 PM
Aug 2023

Nothing in the story indicates a French inclination to invade.

PSPS

(15,186 posts)
27. No they aren't, and the story you posted doesn't say it either. You should change your silly title.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:08 PM
Aug 2023

Enoki33

(1,605 posts)
31. France is not going to invade Niger. Any
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 10:43 AM
Aug 2023

plan they may have is likely at best a contingency one. There are other ways of dealing with Wagner with much less complications.

malaise

(292,117 posts)
32. The white imperialists are still dividing and ruling many countries in Africa
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 10:46 AM
Aug 2023

noting new - without the wealth from the resources in Africa, Europe is nothing.

malaise

(292,117 posts)
33. The white imperialists are still dividing and ruling many countries in Africa
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 10:46 AM
Aug 2023

noting new - without the wealth from the resources in Africa, Europe is nothing.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,377 posts)
34. No, France is removing diplomatic personnel from Niger after a coup and a volatile situation.
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 10:48 AM
Aug 2023

That's far from an invasion at this point.

maxsolomon

(38,108 posts)
41. The French kicked the Jihadis out of Timbuktu in the 2010s. Mali accepted that help.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 02:21 PM
Aug 2023

Now Mali has a military junta freshly running the country, and so does Burkina Faso. No wonder those governments don't want France to intercede.

Here's a couple snips from Wiki:

1st, Mali:

Since 5 June 2020 street protests calling for the resignation of President Ibrahim Boubacar Keïta began in Bamako. On 18 August 2020 mutinying soldiers arrested President Ibrahim Boubacar Keïta and Prime Minister Boubou Cissé. President Keïta resigned and left the country. The National Committee for the Salvation of the People led by Colonel Assimi Goïta took power, meaning the fourth coup happened since independence from France in 1960.[36] On 12 September 2020, the National Committee for the Salvation of the People agreed to an 18-month political transition to civilian rule.[37] Shortly after, Bah N'Daw was named interim president.[38]

On May 25, 2021, Colonel Assimi Goïta dismissed the transitional president Bah N'Daw and the transitional prime minister Moctar Ouane from their positions.[39] On 7 June 2021, Mali's military commander Assimi Goita was sworn into office as the new interim president.[40] According to Human Rights Watch (HRW) Malian troops and suspected Russian mercenaries from the Wagner group executed around 300 civilian men in central Mali in March 2022. France had withdrawn French troops from Mali in February 2022.[41]


2nd, Burkina Faso:

In the election of 29 November 2015, Kaboré won the election in the first round of voting, receiving 53.5% of the vote against 29.7% for the second place candidate, Zephirin Diabré.[19] He was sworn in as President on 29 December 2015.[20] He appointed Paul Kaba Thieba, an economist, as Prime Minister on 7 January 2016.[21] The composition of the new government was announced on 13 January, with Kaboré personally taking charge of the ministerial portfolio for defense and veteran affairs.[22] Jean-Claude Bouda, who had been Minister of Youth, was appointed on 20 February 2017 to take over from Kaboré as Minister of Defense.[23][24]

He was reelected to a second term in the 22 November 2020 general elections with 57.74% of the vote.[25]

Deposal and arrest
On 24 January 2022, Kaboré was deposed by the military.[3] After the announcement, the military declared that the parliament, government, and constitution had been dissolved.[4] The Patriotic Movement for Safeguard and Restoration (MPSR) shared a hand-written resignation letter by him, which was also signed, with its authenticity being verified by Reuters. "In the interests of the nation, following events that took place since yesterday, I have decided to resign from my role as president of Burkina Faso," said the letter.[26] It was afterwards reported that Kaboré had been detained at a military barracks.[27] He was later transferred to house arrest.[28][29]

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