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skip fox

(19,502 posts)
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 05:36 PM Aug 2023

To complete the narrative of his martyrdom, he feels he must be jailed.

So he is taunting the Judge Chutkan, vowing to break her orders if imposed:

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Former President Donald Trump suggested on Tuesday that he would violate any gag order preventing him from talking about special counsel Jack Smith's election interference case against him.

. . .

"Crooked Joe now wants the thug prosecutor, this deranged guy, to file a court order taking away my First Amendment rights so that I can't speak," Trump told the group. "The case is a ridiculous case. It's a First Amendment case. But we don't want Trump to speak. So they want me, they take away your rights on First Amendment."

. . .

"When we say I can't talk, I'd love to," he added. "I will talk about it. I will. They're not taking away my First Amendment."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-vows-to-violate-gag-order/

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This is the way his madness points his head today.

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To complete the narrative of his martyrdom, he feels he must be jailed. (Original Post) skip fox Aug 2023 OP
I think that's it. There's no other explanation for his behavior Walleye Aug 2023 #1
I hope they shave his head, de-louse and cavity search him. TheBlackAdder Aug 2023 #2
Pay per view lame54 Aug 2023 #4
Explanation for his behavior?... lame54 Aug 2023 #3
Last line of OP: "This is the way his madness points his head today." skip fox Aug 2023 #9
He's Searching For What Will Get His People In The Streets Under Arms The Magistrate Aug 2023 #15
Yup. Stochastic terrorism. Plus, if he can't say everything he wants, he is somewhat allegorical oracle Aug 2023 #23
His motives are insane but he always has a scheme in mind Walleye Aug 2023 #12
Yes. He has a running storyboard in his head and he is the star. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #18
I can live with that. CentralMass Aug 2023 #5
Now look at who is deranged..... ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2023 #6
Instead of doing it half-assed, cloudbase Aug 2023 #7
No. Arthur_Frain Aug 2023 #10
I think the judge should order a comprehensive psych exam--not because I think he's any more nuts hlthe2b Aug 2023 #8
That's interesting. Can the judge do that? (Competency hearing?) Maraya1969 Aug 2023 #22
Yes. They certainly can. hlthe2b Aug 2023 #26
Sounds like a plan. Wonder if that can be done? nt allegorical oracle Aug 2023 #25
I could argue it both ways. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #11
I think he wants the shoot-out Walleye Aug 2023 #13
Yes he would want a shoot out much more than jail. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #14
You got that right Walleye Aug 2023 #16
What a coincidence, most of the country feels he needs to be put in jail, too. marble falls Aug 2023 #17
He got what he was seeking Conjuay Aug 2023 #19
stick his orange ass in a way too crowded gopiscrap Aug 2023 #20
I agree completely, but here's the thing... LuckyCharms Aug 2023 #21
If you threw him in solitary and put a camera and mike on him Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2023 #24
what do you mean i don't get to keep my cell phone in jail?!? jcgoldie Aug 2023 #29
Here's the actual clip on Crooks & Liars: skip fox Aug 2023 #27
Either he's betting on house arrest and major MAGA uprisings Mr. Ected Aug 2023 #28

skip fox

(19,502 posts)
9. Last line of OP: "This is the way his madness points his head today."
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 05:43 PM
Aug 2023

I don't know if that actually counts as an explanation (to be dismissed in your configuration) or an analysis of his madness (which is, by definition, beyond explanation, at least in its common sense).

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
15. He's Searching For What Will Get His People In The Streets Under Arms
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 05:54 PM
Aug 2023

It was supposed to be the search of his inner sanctum would do it, supposed to be the indictments, first, second, and now third. What's left to finally provoke them into insurrection to vindicate him as Leader save the clang of a cell door closing on him?

allegorical oracle

(6,584 posts)
23. Yup. Stochastic terrorism. Plus, if he can't say everything he wants, he is somewhat
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 06:22 PM
Aug 2023

handicapped; if he's locked up, he's definitely handicapped and can blame any election loss entirely on the Biden admin. Bannon has advised djt to flood the zone with bullshit and that's been done, now, since the 2020 election. But at the heart of this whole mess is that he wants a war.

Irish_Dem

(82,312 posts)
18. Yes. He has a running storyboard in his head and he is the star.
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 05:55 PM
Aug 2023

The rest of us are just props in his show.
But yes he has a clear idea of how he wants this to unfold.

hlthe2b

(114,672 posts)
8. I think the judge should order a comprehensive psych exam--not because I think he's any more nuts
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 05:43 PM
Aug 2023

than usual with his extreme malignant narcissism--but because THAT would be the ultimate psychic injury. To have his followers start wondering whether or not he really is mentally disturbed (and yes, a few of them WOULD) would be the ultimate response. Plus, it could not hurt to have such a report on the record should his attorneys exhaust all other ridiculous defenses.

Irish_Dem

(82,312 posts)
11. I could argue it both ways.
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 05:44 PM
Aug 2023

Yes he wants the drama of being jailed.
But by all accounts he is terrified of going to jail.

Maybe he wants a shoot out between US Marshals and the Secret Service.

Trump is descending into narcissistic delusion.

Irish_Dem

(82,312 posts)
14. Yes he would want a shoot out much more than jail.
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 05:53 PM
Aug 2023

He is a coward and will hide in a bunker.

And if he can get someone killed fighting for him, he would love that.

LuckyCharms

(23,061 posts)
21. I agree completely, but here's the thing...
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 06:05 PM
Aug 2023

I truly believe he views himself as, and wants to be seen as a martyr.

To this end, he is convincing himself that he can be a martyr by going to jail.

And he thinks if he goes to jail, the entire country will view him as a martyr.

The problem is, once he's in jail for 24 hours, he's going to realize he made a horrible mistake.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
24. If you threw him in solitary and put a camera and mike on him
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 06:23 PM
Aug 2023

within 48 hours he'd be looking and acting like an old homeless guy that walks around town shaking his fist and yelling at nobody in particular and talking to himself constantly. And I'd bet a lot that would emanate from his piehole would be highly offensive shit.

I hope it happens, and then someone 'accidentally' releases the juiciest, craziest parts of the tape.

That just might spell the end of his political career.

Mr. Ected

(9,714 posts)
28. Either he's betting on house arrest and major MAGA uprisings
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 07:21 PM
Aug 2023

Or he's bluffing and trying to make the judge blink.

I hope it's the latter, I hope it's the latter, I hope it's the latter.

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