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bigtree

(94,467 posts)
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 08:14 AM Aug 2023

Remember this headline from November 2022?



Ammar Moussa @ammarmufasa 10h (Natl Press Sec and Rapid Response Dir @TheDemocrats)
Thinking about this headline from November 2022 for some reason.







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Walleye

(45,152 posts)
1. Republicans keep thinking women will forget and move on, they couldn't be more wrong
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 09:33 AM
Aug 2023

As long as people keep getting pregnant, abortion rights will remain an issue.

bigtree

(94,467 posts)
11. nope, it's a feature article in the 'Politics' section
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 11:56 AM
Aug 2023

Lisa Lerer, Elizabeth Dias wrote the article.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/10/us/politics/abortion-midterm-elections-democrats-republicans.html

Lerer covers 'Faith and Politics' for NYT

Dias is a D.C. based reporter

...funny how their effort before that heralded abortion's impact on stymieing the 'red wave.'

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/10/us/politics/abortion-midterm-elections-democrats-republicans.html

IronLionZion

(51,447 posts)
12. It doesn't have to say "Opinion" to be opinion
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 12:59 PM
Aug 2023

most articles in the politics sections of newspapers are the author's analysis and opinions unless they are reporting on an event or something that happened.

bigtree

(94,467 posts)
15. it was NOT presented by NYT as opinion, it was offered as a political news report
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 01:18 PM
Aug 2023

...that's the point. Not what your opinion of it may be.

It was presented and received by most at the time as factual news.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
3. The NYT is not of the so-called liberal media.
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 09:42 AM
Aug 2023

It's something else. Must see itself like FOX New's bullshit motto: Fair and Balanced.

Lonestarblue

(13,532 posts)
4. The NYT certainly has some liberal opinion writers, but the new names that keep popping up on
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 09:51 AM
Aug 2023

their site seem mostly to be conservative. And they’ve featured more religious opinions. Ross Douthat has gone totally evangelical Catholic while David French writes with a religious and conservative bias. The same is true of the Post for conservative writers, although they have resisted the temptation to add religious writers.

bigtree

(94,467 posts)
13. it's in the fold in the Politics section, not the editorial page
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 01:15 PM
Aug 2023

...it's classified as reporting, so it's misleading to claim this is just an 'opinion piece.' It just isn't.

Now if want to argue that all reporting has become biased, then you're on to something. But to dismiss this as an opinion piece ignores the fact that it was presented to readers as informed reporting from supposedly informed reporters, not editorialists or activists or party representatives.

Not only that, it wasn't restricted to NYT, as a google search will evidence. It was widely disseminated to several major media sources around the nation as a factual report, as well as presented and discussed on several news shows at the time as factual reporting.

That's why I asked if anyone remembered it.

bigtree

(94,467 posts)
16. I'm sure I posted that in the wrong place
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 01:23 PM
Aug 2023

...gardening and blogging at the same time.

Kid Berwyn

(24,761 posts)
6. Gee, NYT. That looks an awful lot like framing.
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 10:02 AM
Aug 2023

Wouldn't want people to think there might be an alternative narrative to "faded" and all that?

Marthe48

(23,298 posts)
7. I won't stop focusing on women's rights
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 10:08 AM
Aug 2023

My daughters are close to the end of their childbearing years. One is worried about crossing state lines and having her privacy invaded. She is worried that someone might question their lack of children and accuse her of having an abortion. She lives in a blue state, but I live in Ohio. She has relatives who are rwnj and she has seen them spiral down the toilet, would put nothing past them. She and her husband opted not to have children. My other daughter has kids who are teens. I don't know what she and her husband would think of a change-of-life baby, as they used to be called. I have a granddaughter. I want her to be safe, and I want her to have the options that were available to women for 50 years. And I think of all of the other younger women who must have the option of abortion available, no matter what their economic status is.

Getting the right to abortion taken, when the majority of people living in a first world country wanted that medical option available, has been a ridiculous failure. Prohibition was too, but we don't have a Constitutional Amendment to repeal. We have to wait for (formerly) supreme court justices to be impeached, retire or die.

In the meantime, inch by inch, state by state, women and all who love their mothers, wives, daughters, granddaughters, nieces and female friends, will fight tooth and nail to insure women have access to the health care they need, and the confidentiality every American deserves. Don't falter, don't listen to pundits peddling their opinions, trying to influence us with an outlook we don't believe, can't believe, and won't accept.

BumRushDaShow

(170,963 posts)
8. Yup and not just them
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 10:45 AM
Aug 2023

I just scanned some news sites yesterday and saw the abject FRUSTRATION of the "media" in their headlines bemoaning about how the issue of the Roe v Wade and abortion rights "has not yet faded" as they try to kick-start the phony "horse-race" election narratives.

They think it is a some run-of-the-mill "wedge issue" that is nothing but "rhetoric" and has no real consequences to people. This type of tone-deafness is craven.

Fuck them. They want women to get ignored, marginalized, smacked around, and even die, and require that we "accept that" and "obey".

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