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calguy

(6,154 posts)
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:03 PM Aug 2023

Melania Trump Is Reportedly 'Terrified' That a Certain Email She Sent Could Incriminate Donald Trump

In one of several potential indictments against Donald Trump, evidence from his own wife may seal his fate, according to reports. Trump is set to defend himself in courtrooms in New York, Washington, Georgia, and Florida related to alleged illegal activities during his presidency and his involvement in the January 6 Capitol insurrection. And in the New York iteration of his legal battles, uncovering Melania Trump’s emails is allegedly a main goal for district attorney Alvin Bragg and his staff.


The felony indictment against the former president, 77, accuses him of faking business records to hide a $130,000 payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels during his 2016 presidential campaign. Trump has denied Daniels’ claim that she had an affair with him in 2006 while Melania was pregnant with their son, Barron. She also alleges that she was paid to keep quiet about the alleged fling.

A source tells Radar Online that emails sent by Melania in the aftermath of the alleged affair becoming public could be a smoking gun in the trial as the former model allegedly did not hold back in displaying her heartbreak and plans to divorce Trump. “She’s likely written multiple emails to counsel asking for guidance on her rights if her husband is convicted on all these charges, and if she should use whatever she knows to squeeze him in divorce court,” a source close to the Trump family told Radar Online.


In July, a judge denied requests to view Melania’s emails but the pursuit is allegedly not over for Bragg. “Those emails could make Melania relive the entire betrayal again in the public eye,” an insider alleges. “It also would reveal what she knew about the affair along with many other humiliating aspects of her husband’s business and personal life.

The last thing she wants is for people to know how much her husband put her through and her fraught relationships with Donald’s children,” the source continued. “There’s no way the family could survive that kind of public humiliation! The emails hang the ex-president out to dry.” The source claims Melania’s emails could add to growing speculation that her relationship with Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner is fraught.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/melania-trump-reportedly-terrified-certain-172445111.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=0_00

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Melania Trump Is Reportedly 'Terrified' That a Certain Email She Sent Could Incriminate Donald Trump (Original Post) calguy Aug 2023 OP
Stay away from stairs Kennah Aug 2023 #1
Didn't Ivanka "fall down" stairs? The russian methods exposed. erronis Aug 2023 #46
Ivana. Chellee Aug 2023 #49
Heehee. trump's got nothing but problems. And he deserves them. brush Aug 2023 #2
Awww. tanyev Aug 2023 #3
Zactly. Notice she's still with him.. Big Cha Aug 2023 #45
Hey Melanie! ret5hd Aug 2023 #4
Emails from a spouse, which she sent to counsel, rsdsharp Aug 2023 #5
Yeah, I would think they aren't admissible. ificandream Aug 2023 #6
Technically, the emails wouldn't be testimony in an of themselves, rsdsharp Aug 2023 #9
IANAL but . . . hatrack Aug 2023 #13
The emails are evidence, not testimony..... getagrip_already Aug 2023 #15
Documents don't just magically become evidence. A foundation must be laid for their admission. rsdsharp Aug 2023 #25
What of she cc'd her personal assistant/secretary? getagrip_already Aug 2023 #29
It would destroy attorney client privilege, but it would still be hearsay. rsdsharp Aug 2023 #31
Does not inthewind21 Aug 2023 #36
I think that has been changed treestar Aug 2023 #47
Two different things. NYC Liberal Aug 2023 #51
Her emails alone would still be hearsay. His, if he responded, rsdsharp Aug 2023 #52
trDUMPIE'S ass is on fire,... magicarpet Aug 2023 #7
I laughed KentuckyWoman Aug 2023 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Johnny2X2X Aug 2023 #8
Melania, the former model ... correction ... Melania, the former sex worker Botany Aug 2023 #10
Former? getagrip_already Aug 2023 #18
She was a super model Botany Aug 2023 #22
I didn't think her eyes could open that wide Retrograde Aug 2023 #33
Her kidneys were much smaller then. n/t Mr.Bill Aug 2023 #40
She's pretty there. Demobrat Aug 2023 #44
Yeah. There, she looks intelligent, strong-willed, and determined. Aristus Aug 2023 #53
More likely terrified that she violated the NDA attached to her pre-nup Bristlecone Aug 2023 #11
bingo dembotoz Aug 2023 #55
I'll let Thomas Benjamin Wild Esq speak for me on this matter iscooterliberally Aug 2023 #12
With email, wouldn't the recipient also "own" them? viva la Aug 2023 #14
Poor Melania peacefreak2.0 Aug 2023 #16
So how did this become known to the media? Sanity Claws Aug 2023 #17
Her former aid wrote a book which is due out soon.... getagrip_already Aug 2023 #20
The soap opera that never ends. multigraincracker Aug 2023 #19
Bwah hah hah central scrutinizer Aug 2023 #21
"Those emails could make Melania relive the entire betrayal again in the public eye" SledDriver Aug 2023 #23
Poor Donald he is such a victim. Now his wife too is picking on him. Emile Aug 2023 #24
Bwah! Blue Owl Aug 2023 #26
She's afraid it will affect her pre-nup, I'm sure... Wounded Bear Aug 2023 #27
It's a Slovenian translation error. yonder Aug 2023 #28
Interesting, typically slimy. But don't want this distracting from Hortensis Aug 2023 #30
this flamingdem Aug 2023 #32
It would expose a layer of shit... rubbersole Aug 2023 #34
But her emails! keithbvadu2 Aug 2023 #35
There may not even be emails canetoad Aug 2023 #37
Now that Justin Trudeau is separated I have to wonder if Melania will head north dflprincess Aug 2023 #39
Lol!! flamingdem Aug 2023 #48
Smocking Gun? MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2023 #41
"...her heartbreak"! Come on!! She's not a heroine in some romance novel! 70sEraVet Aug 2023 #42
The way this family operates, Mr.Bill Aug 2023 #43
Ba Da Bing! Mr. Evil Aug 2023 #50
If she was worried about being humiliated, why did she marry Donald Trump? Aristus Aug 2023 #54
The same reason any woman marries a known serial cheater. Demobrat Aug 2023 #56

rsdsharp

(12,002 posts)
5. Emails from a spouse, which she sent to counsel,
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:10 PM
Aug 2023

seeking legal advice about a divorce, are going to be used against her spouse? Do I have that right?

So attorney client privilege, spousal privilege, and hearsay are no longer things?

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
6. Yeah, I would think they aren't admissible.
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:11 PM
Aug 2023

A wife cannot testify against her husband, right?

rsdsharp

(12,002 posts)
9. Technically, the emails wouldn't be testimony in an of themselves,
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:15 PM
Aug 2023

but she would probably have to testify to authenticate them, to have any chance to get them in. Then there is still attorney client privilege and hearsay.

hatrack

(64,888 posts)
13. IANAL but . . .
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:19 PM
Aug 2023

She can't be compelled to testify against her spouse . . .

She's free to do so if that's her choice.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
15. The emails are evidence, not testimony.....
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:25 PM
Aug 2023

They are a physical thing. Property.

She doesn't have to verify authenticity, though she is free to deny it under penalty of perjury.

It's the same theory a court can use to force you to give up an encryption password to a file. It doesn't amount to self incrimination. You are just surrendering evidence.

Emails won't fall under spousal privelage. Not sure about attorney client priv, but she probably didn't mark them as privelaged so that might exclude them.



rsdsharp

(12,002 posts)
25. Documents don't just magically become evidence. A foundation must be laid for their admission.
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:51 PM
Aug 2023

That requires a witness, unless the parties stipulate to the admission of an exhibit. Trump isn’t going to do that.

If she was seeking legal advice from her attorney, that’s privileged, whether it’s “marked so” or not. Conversations with an attorney within the scope of the representation are privileged, and they certainly aren’t “marked.”

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
29. What of she cc'd her personal assistant/secretary?
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:57 PM
Aug 2023

Doesn't bringing in a third party pierce privelage, and wouldn't that third party be able to serve as a witness?

rsdsharp

(12,002 posts)
31. It would destroy attorney client privilege, but it would still be hearsay.
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 04:09 PM
Aug 2023

Hearsay is defined as “An out of court statement offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted.” It could conceivably be offered for some other purpose, and there are also 24 enumerated exceptions to the hearsay rule in Rule 803. I doubt any of those apply.

In addition, the assistant could testify he or she received it, but probably not that they have personal knowledge that she actual wrote it.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
47. I think that has been changed
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 06:15 PM
Aug 2023

to the decision of the spouse - so you can no longer marry the witness to stop them testifying, It's a privilege of confidentiality for Melodrama. So she can testify if she wants to. Doesn't have to if she does not want to.

NYC Liberal

(20,453 posts)
51. Two different things.
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 07:04 PM
Aug 2023

The emails the prosecution is looking for as evidence are older ones that were sent “in the aftermath of the alleged affair”. Not sure if they were sent to him or others (friends?)

She is also, right now, emailing her lawyers about how to proceed if he is convicted. I don’t think they are seeking those.

That’s how I read it. It’s not worded well.

rsdsharp

(12,002 posts)
52. Her emails alone would still be hearsay. His, if he responded,
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 07:16 PM
Aug 2023

to her would be admissible as an admission of a party opponent, which could be a vehicle to get hers in. You’d still need a witness to lay the foundation for admission.

If she is still supporting him, as the article says, she would likely invoke spousal privilege. He can’t be called by the prosecution. Who else can authenticate them?

Response to calguy (Original post)

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
33. I didn't think her eyes could open that wide
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 04:26 PM
Aug 2023

IMHO, she was a better and more interesting-looking person before she went in for all that modification. Her body, her choice, but she looks like a completely different person now.

Aristus

(72,187 posts)
53. Yeah. There, she looks intelligent, strong-willed, and determined.
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 07:40 PM
Aug 2023

Now she looks vapid and confused.

peacefreak2.0

(1,044 posts)
16. Poor Melania
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:26 PM
Aug 2023

First she cribs Michelle’s speech, now she’s stealing “but her emails” from Hilary. Maybe she should be getting used to second hand.

Sanity Claws

(22,413 posts)
17. So how did this become known to the media?
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:27 PM
Aug 2023

Is she talking to the feds and this leaked story is to mislead 45 about her role in framing him?

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
20. Her former aid wrote a book which is due out soon....
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:29 PM
Aug 2023

It's probably a leak from the author to Bragg, and then to the media.

Good way to sell books.....

SledDriver

(2,122 posts)
23. "Those emails could make Melania relive the entire betrayal again in the public eye"
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:44 PM
Aug 2023

Fuck Mailordia. I really don't care, do u?



yonder

(10,293 posts)
28. It's a Slovenian translation error.
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:56 PM
Aug 2023

She didn't say "I'm terrified".

She said "that's terrific".

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Interesting, typically slimy. But don't want this distracting from
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 04:08 PM
Aug 2023

attempted coup d'etat and espionage violations.

AFTER he's convicted on the big things, they can all burn for all I care. Though I'm still hoping something surfaces that turns the DoJ to prosecuting tRump-Russia. Finally.

flamingdem

(40,891 posts)
32. this
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 04:16 PM
Aug 2023

We don't want Malaria's betrayal issues to distract us from Donnie's betrayal of the country!

rubbersole

(11,223 posts)
34. It would expose a layer of shit...
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 05:03 PM
Aug 2023

..to magats that only 'read' tabloids. Probably all they read.

canetoad

(20,769 posts)
37. There may not even be emails
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 05:14 PM
Aug 2023

Read this para again:

A source tells Radar Online that emails sent by Melania in the aftermath of the alleged affair becoming public could be a smoking gun in the trial as the former model allegedly did not hold back in displaying her heartbreak and plans to divorce Trump. “She’s likely written multiple emails to counsel asking for guidance on her rights if her husband is convicted on all these charges, and if she should use whatever she knows to squeeze him in divorce court,” a source close to the Trump family told Radar Online.


She's 'likely' written emails. Pretty flimsy evidence.

dflprincess

(29,341 posts)
39. Now that Justin Trudeau is separated I have to wonder if Melania will head north
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 05:41 PM
Aug 2023

and if Canadian border patrol has been told to turn her away.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,512 posts)
41. Smocking Gun?
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 05:46 PM
Aug 2023

“She’s likely written multiple emails to counsel asking for guidance on her rights if her husband is convicted on all these charges, and if she should use whatever she knows to squeeze him in divorce court...”

How does this even begin to incriminate Slobby?

As for the rest of it...public knowing, humiliating, etc. EVERYBODY in the universe already knows all about that orange pig. If she hasn't been humiliated by now, she never will be.

And, who cares??

70sEraVet

(5,482 posts)
42. "...her heartbreak"! Come on!! She's not a heroine in some romance novel!
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 05:47 PM
Aug 2023

She knew from day one the kind of man (not human) he was. Remember pics of them shmoozing it up with Epstein and Maxwell?

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
43. The way this family operates,
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 05:48 PM
Aug 2023

she's not worried about the harm the emails could do to Donald, she's trying to figure out how she can make money with them.

Demobrat

(10,299 posts)
56. The same reason any woman marries a known serial cheater.
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 07:59 PM
Aug 2023

He would NEVER cheat on ME. Because I’M special!

And money, of course.

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