Somebody remind me. Is Ecuador a colony of the USA?

[Phil01]

U.S. is sending FBI to Ecuador to help probe presidential candidate’s killing
https://www.register-herald.com/cnhi_network/u-s-is-sending-fbi-to-ecuador-to-help-probe-presidential-candidate-s-killing/article_bd19d7c4-37c4-11ee-88ee-e72f5b030679.html

The Biden administration is planning to send the Federal Bureau of Investigation to Ecuador to aid in the investigation into the assassination of presidential candidate Fernando Villavicencio, according to people familiar with the plans.

The U.S. offered the assistance on Wednesday night after the shooting of Villavicencio in Quito, according to one of the people. Both asked not to be identified without permission to speak publicly.

The FBI didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. It’s relatively common for the FBI to assist in this type of investigation in countries that are U.S. allies.

...

Reminds me of the bad old days of Pinochet and the like.

[NoRethugFriends]

1. No. So what. It was requester. And it was a good guy who got assassinated.

[MOMFUDSKI]

9. I read yesterday that

the man assassinated was RW?

[emulatorloo]

11. He was anti-goverment corruption and very much against drug cartels/organized crime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/08/10/who-is-fernando-villavicencio-ecuador-death/

The death of Villavicencio, a vocal opponent of government corruption and drug trafficking groups, sparked outrage across the historically peaceful country, with President Guillermo Lasso saying early Thursday that the killing was “a political crime” that “will not go unpunished.”

Snip

Before his death, Villavicencio had spoken out about threats he had faced on the campaign trail.
On July 31, he told reporters that he and his campaign team had received a serious threat from the leader of a group linked to Mexico’s Sinaloa cartel and, referring to detained crime boss José Adolfo Macías by his alias, “Fito,” said: “If I continue to refer to him and his structure, they would attack me or make an attempt on my life.”

But he was defiant, saying: “Here I am showing my face. I’m not scared of them.” Video from another campaign event, which was posted by his official account, showed him saying that he would not wear a bulletproof vest.

[hlthe2b]

18. Was he? He was very far RW...

[Zeitghost]

26. Far Right Wing?

he was a trade unionist, journalist and ran on a campaign of environmental protection and anti-corruption.

If that's RW, I guess I have finally found a RW guy I can support, or could anyway.

[hlthe2b]

28. Per early reporting, yes

Those early reports were poor and lacking detail but until today I haven’t seen any individualized reporting… And after the question came up I've since tried to do more research. It seems several on this thread saw the same descriptors of him (as a RW candidate) yesterday, so apparently there was a lot of "catch-up" required.

But, yes, it does seem he was a Leftist candidate.

[muriel_volestrangler]

2. Pinochet? WTF?

Explain yourself. On the face of it, you're likening the Biden administration to Nixon, Reagan etc. Which would be BS.

[SCantiGOP]

3. It was at Ecuador's request

Seems like the OP is looking for a grievance.

[emulatorloo]

8. +++++

As Muriel points out, they are basically acting as if Biden = Reagan and Nixon.

[Igel]

15. Or they skimmed a headline

and concluded final causes from incomplete knowledge.

I'm a proud supporter of Hanlon's Razor.

[emulatorloo]

17. Thanks for the Hanlon's Razor reminder.

[Tommy Carcetti]

44. We're still getting "Victoria Nuland cookie" posts here.

In 2023. After everything else.

[ProfessorGAC]

4. They Wanted The Help!

It's a country in our hemisphere, and they're not a hostile power.
Why wouldn't we help them?

[40oz to Freedom]

5. If they request help, we should send it.

[bottomofthehill]

6. The FBI is very good at what they do.

Investigate

[emulatorloo]

7. US and Ecuador have lots of Cooperative Agreements. Villavicencio was murdered and Venezuela

wants the help. The US and Ecuador are allies.

There is not a damn thing about this that is analogous to Pinochet.

Unrec for incompetent attempt at shit stirring.

[brooklynite]

10. "The U.S. offered the assistance on Wednesday"

Do you have a problem with this?

Fun fact: the National transportation Safety Board assists with investigations of aircraft accidents around the world.

[emulatorloo]

13. "Ecuador's President Guillermo Lasso request(ed) help from the US Federal Bureau of Investigation"

If only DU’ers and their recommenders wanting to smear Biden admin would do a little research first.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09/americas/ecuador-presidential-candidate-fernando-villavicencio-assassinated-intl-hnk/index.html

Ecuador presidential candidate Fernando Villavicencio assassinated at campaign event

The bloody incident prompted Ecuador’s President Guillermo Lasso to request help from the US Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Snip

Lasso vowed has vowed that the incident will not go unpunished, saying that “organized crime has come a long way, but the full weight of the law will fall on them.”

[MerryBlooms]

29. It seems a rw narrative is trying to take hold on du. Not sure why. I've seen quite a few

Posts smearing, Fernando Villavicencio, as rw. Yet, zero sourcing. Now, we have President Biden, and the US, being smeared for answering the call for help in this assassination investigation. Definitely one to rec, because it makes it easier to keep track of.

[emulatorloo]

32. Claiming Biden helping Ecuador investigate an assassination is the "same" as Nixon/CIA overthrowing

the duly elected govt of President Salvador Allende in a military coup in Chile is definitely a false narrative.

It is really way way way out there.

[MerryBlooms]

36. It is completely unhinged, and we're supposed to be a site supporting President Biden.

Yet, here we are with these disparaging remarks about our President and our country. All because an anti corruption candidate was assassinated, our President was asked for help, gave it. I guess never underestimate the power of rw propaganda, and folks who only read headlines? I kinda expect Bullwinkle to pull some weird shit outta his hat. 🤔

[betsuni]

37. It's the Evil American Empire thing, Tulsi Gabbard-style. Both parties are corrupt warmongers

then and now, have never and will never change -- America very very bad. But Russia is nice!

[EYESORE 9001]

12. Isolationism is a RW value

Just sayin’.

[applegrove]

14. FBI gets to hone its skills. Ecuador gets expertise. Doesn't cost much.

Win win. Plus it scares off asssassins in that part of the world if they can't count on the investigations being corrupt because the FBI will be involved.

[malaise]

16. The US is the hemisphere's bully

and the leading imperialist in these parts.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

19. What the heck does that have to do with this?

Ecuador requested the help of the FBI, it's not like they barged in uninvited.

The FBI are very good at their job and Ecuador recognizes that.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

21. Well, they're good at their job

When they do the job for the right reasons.

They have a long history of that not being the case.

I'm okay with them helping out a country that wants it, but I'm not about to idolize them unless they deserve it.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

23. I never said anything about idolizing them,

all I said was that they were invited by the Ecuadorian Govt to help with the investigation and that they're very good at their job.

I fail to see any idolization in my previous post.

[Caliman73]

20. I think you are confusing the CIA with the FBI...

Yes, both have some sordid history but the FBI is the premier investigative body in the United States. The FBI (it's in the name) regularly helps other jurisdictions, even internationally, with forensics and other investigative techniques when requested. As others have said, Ecuador requested help.

If you are talking about Chile, Allende, and Pinochet, that was the CIA. The CIA is notorious for "assistance" to right wing governments. The FBI, while having its own "not great" history internally, has not been known for messing around in other countries.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

22. I don't have a problem with the FBI helping out

But I can assure you that the FBI has a very sordid history of its own when it comes to corruption, especially in suppressing liberals while letting right wing thugs get away with literal murder.

COINTELPRO ring a bell?

[emulatorloo]

31. I was unaware that J. Edgar Hoover was still alive and in charge of the FBI in 2023.

Thanks for the heads up!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

24. Someone remind if anyone here has said that?

[Recycle_Guru]

25. so?...more advanced nations often offer their help and support

when developing countries are dealing with a crisis.

[FSogol]

27. Exaclty. It's the liberal thing to do. Help others when asked. n/t

[MerryBlooms]

30. Which part reminds you of the bad old days of Pinochet, and the like?

That an anti corruption politician was assassinated? President Biden was asked for FBI assistance? President Biden sending FBI assistance as requested?

[tritsofme]

33. What a truly bizarre OP.

[Tommy Carcetti]

45. Clearly the next step is France invades Ecuador.

Thanks to Victoria Nuland’s magic cookies.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

34. I just love these hit and run threads.

You start a thread and then don't follow up on it.
Nice work there.

[Renew Deal]

35. Noticed the same thing.

[MerryBlooms]

38. They joined in April. It's their last post. Probably reading the comments

And trying to decide how to respond. It's an awful take on the situation, imo, others have piled on in the same negative misstep. Biden isn't their enemy. A shame people who are supposed allies and supporters, immediately turn against President Biden and the US, over false reporting.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

39. IMO, what the OP should do is either edit the thread,

or delete it entirely.

[MerryBlooms]

40. I agree. We can keep kicking it, or let it fade... this is my last response, it needs to disappear,

[Retrograde]

41. Countries often offer aid in a disaster

or other crisis. After the Loma Prieta earthquake, several countries offered aid and supplies, many countries offered to send medical people and supplies - turns out we didn't need them but thanked them anyway. The US often offers aid in case of natural disasters - we've sent urban search and rescue teams to many countries after earthquakes, with their consent.

[Hekate]

42. From your own quote from your source, Philo...

It’s relatively common for the FBI to assist in this type of investigation in countries that are U.S. allies.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

43. I think It will be good for those FBI agents that's been....

Working to investigate Trump to get to help handle this. A straight forward assassination case will help them remember why they became FBI agents.

Going through trump's filthy deeds and having to put up with MAGA's saying what they say has got to be a struggle on moral. I think they kinda need this.