Hunter Biden Special Counsel Question

[angrychair]

Last edited Fri Aug 11, 2023, 08:59 PM - Edit history (1)

Sorry if this has already been asked and answered.

Why are they creating a special counsel for crimes that Hunter Biden already admitted guilt and paid all back taxes and penalties?

(Not including the gun charges as I assume after the recent 5th circuit ruling that he would seek to have those charges dismissed)

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. "both sides".

[elleng]

2. Not clear to me, but I guess it is clear to A.G. Garland.

[triron]

15. I'm not at all sure of that.

Seems like another 'Hillary ' thing to me

[Skittles]

3. it's just more bullshit for the clown show

a complete waste of time and money

meanwhile, where is the special counsel for Jared and Ivanka?

fucking disgusting

[WarGamer]

4. Is this only about taxes?

[angrychair]

6. According to MSNBC

That was the case. Because they also talked about seeking a change in venue to either California or DC because that was where he filed his taxes (CA).

[MichMan]

11. Probably not the tax issue

Could be looking at almost anything else.

[WarGamer]

14. I'll be curious to see

[Johonny]

20. Did Ken Start only focus on White Water

It will be a shit show to appease the politics of the right.

[madinmaryland]

23. Well, at least Hunter didn't lie about a consensual blow job.

It has already been seen, thanks to sporkfoot.

[dem4decades]

5. It's a bunch of bullshit, what other private citizen has a Special Counsel? But no

Special Counsel for Ivanka and Jared who both actually worked in the White House?

Garland is pandering to the right wing assholes. Two Biden Special Counsels and one Trump SP?

Such bullshit.

[bullimiami]

8. it is bullshit. He has had 5 fucking years. This shit should have been shut down years ago.

Youve had plenty of time. Lets have a report. Are there crimes to charge?
Is this it? A couple of tax crimes he will plead guilty to and pay the fines?

How long does this asshole get to go fishing on our dime?

[dem4decades]

17. I wonder if the Garland defenders think the Bidens are twice as corrupt as Trump?

Garland has named twice as many SCs for the Biden's than for Trump.

In what world is that even considered reasonable?

[triron]

26. Wonderland. Garland has a weak spine or is a closet Republican.

[Autumn]

7. I heard a few weeks back that this bullshit was settled. What the fuck is Garland doing appointing

a Special Council to investigate a private citizen when the GOPIGs have no evidence of any other wrong doing.

[dem4decades]

18. Sad, just fucking sad. Why have prosecutors, let's just have Special Counsels.

[Celerity]

24. It was not settled, as the defence believed that all other investigations would be dropped in

exchange for the plea agreement. The prosecution said that was not the case after the judge raised questions, and the plea deal fell apart.

The tax charge will now likely go to trial, which increases the legal peril for Hunter.

Also, there may well be new charges added, including acting as an unregistered agent for a foreign government.

The people saying that this is some Garland masterstroke (he is playing 5 dimensional chess, man!) and that is is good thing for Hunter and Joe are potentially likely to be sadly mistaken, especially as this will kick the investigations and/or trial(s) dead into the middle of the primaries and maybe even into the post primary election proper.

The low info voters (who are a HUGE bloc) will look at the shitshow and many will perhaps stupidly conclude that there actually IS something to the Rethug's bullshit rantings about the Bidens being corrupt (think mouthbreather indies sputtering 'where there is smoke there's fire man!', which will perhaps be cheered on by the likes of Andrea Mitchell and her ilk across the MSM), barring Hunter being acquitted on most everything and all investigations subsequently being dropped.

Even that last part (acquittals on most all and investigations dropped, neither of which are at all guaranteed to occur before the election) might not be enough.

Millions of non-MAGAt American voters (MAGAts are a given to be dangerous fools, dupes, marks, and thugs) are not exactly known for their satisfactory grasp of things even marginally complex when it comes to the realms of the law and of politics (and by complex I mean anything above Jack and Jill went up the hill.....).

The non voting ones (another massive bloc) are even less inclined to possess any satisfactory level of discernment, but they can indeed still (and will) spread negative bullshit into the voting bloc as well.

[Autumn]

25. Well it certainly gives them an investigation and a trial to follow that doesn't include a Trump.

The media and the MAGAtts will be happy. I don't understand how they can do the tax thing since he paid them all and the fines.

[Celerity]

29. The next 15 (& quite possibly 17 if Trump loses a very close election) months are going to be wild.

If he wins, the wildness is only beginning.



I feel so cheated out of my post teen and onward life in terms of large parts of it.

In a 4 and half month period, 2 massive inflection points:

23 June 2016 (Leave won the Brexit referendum)

and

November 8, 2016 (Trump won the POTUS, and I turned 20 less than a month before)

forever changed the political futures of two of my three nations in truly gigantic, systemic ways.

And in the third, Trump winning also helped to turbo-charge the rise of the far RW here in Sweden, to the point where we now have a far RW party (the Sweden Democrats) in power via a power-sharing agreement in our Riksdag (parliament).

[emulatorloo]

30. Because the plea deal totally blew up when the judge questioned it. That 'unsettled' things.

‘Special Counsel’ thing seems just for show, because as I understand it is the same prosecutor who was working the Hunter Biden case.

He’s gone from regular to special!

It all seems crazy to me.

[Autumn]

31. I did not know that Weiss was Hunters prosecutor and had asked a year ago to be made special council

This is disgusting.

[ananda]

9. My question exactly. What the hell?

This makes NO sense.

[triron]

27. Garland made something up.

[Autumn]

32. He should have made something up about the Thomas's and George Santos.

Not to mention the Trump spawn.


Oh never mind. Nothing needs to be made up there. It's all out in the open and in our faces.

[Raven123]

10. I heard they can't reach a plea deal

They can’t have a trial in Delaware because the alleged crimes were not committed there. The special whatever can prosecute in any venue.

Just a fustercluck

[NowISeetheLight]

12. I Suspect

I have half a suspicion that this will lead to nothing new about Hunter…. But it opens up the ability to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Jared & Ivanka. It’s kind of a counterpoint to show they not targeting. Imagine if they opened an investigation into “Jarvanka” without having done the same to Hunter. The House sure as heck wasn’t going to investigate them. This opens the door.

They’ve investigated Hunter for five years. What’s there is it. They’re not going to find anything else. There was no $5m payoff to Joe. If they want to “investigate” go for it. Hunter is a private citizen who made some mistakes. President Biden is a loyal public servant. RepubQcans will claim all kinds of cxxp anyway. But now the door is opened. I’m hoping I’m right because $2b from the Saudis plus boxes of classified information sure look like something was going on.

[Hortensis]

13. Fwiw: "After more than two years of demanding that the DoJ appoint a special counsel

to investigate Hunter Biden, Republicans in Congress finally got their wish on Friday. And they were furious.

Reactions from the GOP began pouring in within minutes of Attorney General Merrick Garland’s announcement on Friday of a special counsel to oversee the criminal investigation of President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden.

KEY POINTS

* Republicans in Congress railed against Attorney General Merrick Garland’s decision to appoint David Weiss as special counsel to oversee the criminal investigation of Hunter Biden.

* Special counsels are not required to keep Congress updated on the status of their work, leading to fears that the move would effectively halt congressional probes of the president’s son.

* House Speaker Kevin McCarthy warned that the special counsel should not be used to “whitewash” the Biden family,..

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/10/us/trump-jan-6-insurrection-conservatives.html

I haven't been paying attention to the Republicans' "Huntergate". Just accepted that, lacking Evil Hillary with an existential election coming up, they're doing their best with Hunter.

I understand they're mad at being outmaneuvered in this, if not really how yet. But good. They'll be eating a lot more of what we dish.

[rsdsharp]

16. It was a 5th Circuit decision, rather than the Supreme Court.

[angrychair]

21. Good catch

Thanks! I'll edit my OP

[Mr. Sparkle]

19. also why are the making him a special counsel 5 years into a investigation

This started 5 years ago under Trump. As we saw a few weeks ago they found nothing. This is beyond harassment.

[Autumn]

22. Right. He paid the taxes, the gun issue is moot so what the fuck is this crap.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

35. Paying the taxes

Doesn’t negate the crime of not paying them in the first place.

[Autumn]

36. Paying the taxes shows that he admitted his crime. Unlike a shit load of republicans Garland

could have appointed a special council for, Clarence for instance is just one who comes to mind but no that might make him look bad.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

38. I agree there are plenty

of Republicans who should be investigated, but IMO, that’s irrelevant to investigating Hunter Biden for tax crimes and whatever else they may be looking at.

Bottom line, despite him paying back the taxes, Hunter pleaded not guilty to the tax crimes, so he’ll either change his plea and take a deal or he’ll go to trial.

Which is as it should be

[Autumn]

39. He's been investigated for 5 years. Weiss's investigation was over when he offered the plea bargain.

Now as special council he can investigate every fucking crime the GOPIGs have accused Hunter of for the last 15 years. This is a disgrace and shame on Garland for giving in a year later and giving Weiss what he wanted. .

[SickOfTheOnePct]

40. No, the investigation wasn't over

Which is why the plea deal fell apart.

[Kingofalldems]

28. I see the MAGAts are all excited.

[617Blue]

33. Because squirt gun - knife fight.

[lame54]

34. To shut them up but it's not working

[Autumn]

37. Any idiot who has ever seen a republican in action would have known that.

[Marius25]

41. Because Merrick Garland constantly feels the need

to prove to Republicans that he's not partisan, which in turn makes him seem more partisan since he always defers to Republicans.