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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI see Weiss with a Comey style announcement
right before the election.
A nothing burger to swing just enough votes.
I am not so sure this SC move by Garland will be the win-win many here think it will be.
And if you think we will now see an investigation of Jarvanka, I have some land in Florida to sell you.
bucolic_frolic
(55,140 posts)gab13by13
(32,322 posts)marble falls
(71,926 posts)Weiss, a Garland appointed special prosecutor isn't Comey, an FBI director. Even Hunter Biden made a plea deal admitting he made mistakes. Only the plea deal is in play here. In the end the same facts will be found and another plea deal will be made.
Sheeesh.
gab13by13
(32,322 posts)was nominated as US Attorney by Donald Trump, he is a registered Republican. Garland made Weiss special counsel.
Just like people told me that Trump couldn't do anything on Jan.6th 2021 because the electoral votes were already certified, now people are telling me once again that David Weiss can't interfere in the 2024 election.
I hope to hell you are right Marble falls. It is just my opinion that appointing Weiss SC ensures that the Hunter/Joe bogus prosecution goes right up to the election. I expect for sure that Hunter is going to trial.
Remember what Trump said, you don't have to give me proof, just say there is corruption and Congressional Republicans will take over from there.
marble falls
(71,926 posts)... three years. The facts regarding Hunter Biden aren't in question, only the plea deal is. But the fact is the Feds get plea deals 90% of the time. This is going to wear itself out by the election.
If screeching "HunterBidenHunterBidenHunterBiden" is the best they got, then Joe Biden will skate into his third term.
gab13by13
(32,322 posts)Legal people here told me I was wrong to worry about Jan. 6th, 2021.
Legal people here told me not to worry, that Garland was secretly investigating Trump and his inner circle in 2021 and 2022.
Lonestarblue
(13,480 posts)Yet he asked Garland to be mad a special counsel, which gives him essentially unlimited power to investigate every aspect of Hunters life, and even his relatives including Joe Biden. So after spending 5 years investigating Hunter and coming up with crimes that Hunter acknowledges, and has already settled his tax debts, why does Weiss want even more time and power to investigate Hunter. It is reasonable to fear that this will become a Ken Starr type witch hunt to damage Biden for his re-election. For example, it shouldnt take 5 years to investigate pretty straightforward tax issues, nor the illegal purchase of a handgun. Violations like that happen every day in the US. So why did Weiss drag this investigation out with no resolution? It gave Republicans the opportunity to keep Hunter in the public eye and to label the Bidens as a crime family. We dont yet know that Weiss is another Comey, but the potential is certainly there.
marble falls
(71,926 posts)... now. There's no there, there. Relax.
More importantly: he's blunted any RW claims that this round of snipe hunting is special treatment, white-wash and cover up. And they still won't find a unicorn.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...very easily if you post on any of the rightwing sites.
And the more you overprice it, the prouder they will be to brag about what they paid for it.
William769
(59,147 posts)Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)be reached...since in August SCOTUS decided drugs and guns are fine.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Autumn
(48,962 posts)in a pizza parlor in third grade.
Mr. Ected
(9,714 posts)As they would to multiple indictments and/or convictions - actual indictments and convictions - of Trump and his cohorts, then that voter cannot be dissuaded from voting GOP. Period. I know we want to win every battle, but it's impossible in today's world.
I would also hope that the independent voters are able to read FIRST names, like Hunter rather than Joe. If they can't, they're hopeless anyway.
edhopper
(37,370 posts)is how Trump got elected.
dalton99a
(94,122 posts)PJMcK
(25,048 posts)Hunter isnt on the ballot. Secretary Clinton was. Do voters select a candidate based on their children? Is that really how Trump got elected?
We already know the facts about Hunter. There arent any new secrets to be found. Weiss knows this. Hes on a fools errand.
Jarvanka? Who cares? Thats a waste of time and resources. Really.
As for real estate in Florida, its a booming business in spite of your snark. According to Reamax, there are 277,650 listings for sale in Florida and the median list price is $576,782. Not too bad for a sinking market.
Weiss is a boring distraction without any real corruption. Of course Republicans are pissed. Its all theyve got.
edhopper
(37,370 posts)was about an aides laptop with nothing on it. Not Clinton.
Same once removed thing here.
Too many voters are not discerning, hence the forgot about the Hollywood Tape orTrump U, and Comey changed the election.
You really don't think it can happen again. Espwith our scandal driven media?
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)edhopper
(37,370 posts)your optimism.
Ocelot II
(130,536 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 13, 2023, 11:11 AM - Edit history (1)
because they thought it was too lenient; it only fell apart after the judge questioned it and Hunter's lawyers backed out because it wasn't clear what it covered. I don't understand why Weiss fucked up in the first place by not properly venuing the tax case in CA and NY instead of DE, but this might be nothing more than a move to save face by re-filing the case in one of those two states and then offering a plea, though maybe not as favorable as the first one. The gun charge will likely go away because of a recent Court of Appeals decision. But I don't see this as an intentional election-year move (which the US Attorneys Manual warns against, and which Comey disregarded - but there's no such thing as the "60 day rule" ). This will be over long before the election.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)in Congress, which the media and the republicans falsely said that the "email investigation" had been reopened.
That was a LIE, and the media perpetuated that lie by parading ever right wing pundant across the various media outlets, while Comey hid away like the coward he is, until late Friday night, the weekend before the election, and briefly said nothing new was found, and there was no reason to reopen the investigation.
With Hunter Biden, it won't have an impact on the election like what Comey did, because there is no evidence that President Biden was involved in any way, and in fact just the opposite based on testimonies of republicans own witnesses.
Yes, it will be a nothing burger as the OP said, and the original charges will stand.
oldmanlynn
(821 posts)What if Weiss came out in Oct 24 and said We found something tying in joe biden and we are continuing our investigation. He could say months later that nothing was found but the damage would be done.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)this. Weiss has already spent 5 years investigating this
have a lot of latitude in what they can do.
He can also release info to Congress that the Trumpers can use.
We are not dealing with ethical or law abiding people here.

