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***BREAKING*** Georgia prosecutors have messages showing Trump's team is behind voting system breach (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2023 OP
This looks pretty damning to me. redwitch Aug 2023 #1
This is insane Johnny2X2X Aug 2023 #2
You know , Johnny, those perfidious clowns will say ... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2023 #3
Thanks for the new word! Sogo Aug 2023 #24
perfidia Doc_Technical Aug 2023 #46
Like showing just how easy it is to murder someone Kaleva Aug 2023 #42
+1 MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2023 #48
if you rob a bank to "prove" how easy it is to rob the bank, you still robbed a bank...... Takket Aug 2023 #49
What about 2016? CarolinaNC Aug 2023 #38
Exactly! karin_sj Aug 2023 #43
In Michigan the beak in occurred... reACTIONary Aug 2023 #52
RICO's A Train - Trump's Ass Is The Track - Georgia's The First - It Won't Be The Last! MayReasonRule Aug 2023 #54
No way Biden votes were changed in Texas to deny him the state. yellowdogintexas Aug 2023 #55
But what about... usregimechange Aug 2023 #4
I know, right?! Can't stop thinking about Hunter Biden! dchill Aug 2023 #23
While we've been tuned into Trump's "perfect phone call " Mr. Ected Aug 2023 #5
If it's a RICO prosecution TFG is responsible for acts, even tangentially related to him. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2023 #6
Mafia boss Trump and his underlings tried destroying our Democracy. The orange lunatic is still free sarcasmo Aug 2023 #7
that is the bottom line, sadly. Free as a bird to lie, conspire and get even better at it. nt Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #44
How ironic that the ones screaming "voter fraud" were the ones conspiring to commit voter fraud vlyons Aug 2023 #8
+1 c-rational Aug 2023 #9
I don't feel sorry for them. YDogg Aug 2023 #10
I'm a Buddhist and am taught to have compassion for all beings equally, and vlyons Aug 2023 #22
I find that I'm indifferent. YDogg Aug 2023 #26
I am not "bothered" by their stupidity and selfishness vlyons Aug 2023 #32
Because we have the Establishment Clause in our First Amendment jayschool2013 Aug 2023 #39
Isn't it important that they will be prevented from doing more harm? bedazzled Aug 2023 #27
With the Cons, the accusation is always a confession. SalviaBlue Aug 2023 #11
Isnt voter fraud, it's election fraud. Voters arent doing the fraud. Amaryllis Aug 2023 #12
+++ nt brer cat Aug 2023 #17
Watergate AncientOfDays Aug 2023 #13
the most sharply incriminating witnesses against Trump in this indictment are his own lawyers. Obvious85 Aug 2023 #14
Michael Flynn and Sidney Powell were in the December 18 meeting. MLAA Aug 2023 #15
Throw that TRAITOR in prison for life Obvious85 Aug 2023 #18
Exactly and how long he has gotten away with so much thanks to TFG pardoning him. MLAA Aug 2023 #19
Trump wants you to believe that Biden is so incompetent Obvious85 Aug 2023 #16
Fox had chance to present evidence...paid 800 million dollars because had zilch. Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 #20
Eh. No harm, no foul? dchill Aug 2023 #21
So there was lots of this apparently. Snackshack Aug 2023 #25
Michael Cohen: MAGA Make Attorney Get Attorneys onetexan Aug 2023 #28
Also at... thesquanderer Aug 2023 #29
Give this some though. republianmushroom Aug 2023 #30
I don't Delphinus Aug 2023 #37
Yep. AP story from 2018 jayschool2013 Aug 2023 #40
Did they havejjersies or is that a RICO team? bucolic_frolic Aug 2023 #31
If it had anything to do with the 2020 election and how to steal it, tfg had a hand in it PortTack Aug 2023 #33
From the OP FakeNoose Aug 2023 #34
They had video from surveilence cameras of her letting people in Cheezoholic Aug 2023 #41
RICO! LudwigPastorius Aug 2023 #35
Let it end that way please. We need some fresh air for Lady Liberty. Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #45
prison in GA for all of them. ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #36
Makes you wonder how many machines nationwide they did get into and we don't know it. sunonmars Aug 2023 #47
they are FUCKED Takket Aug 2023 #50
(probably posted here before) It appears that Hunter Biden's data was hacked before Jarqui Aug 2023 #51
People will still vote for him. Goes beyond comprehension. Or maybe it is this...... twodogsbarking Aug 2023 #53
THE CALL WAS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE! AwakeAtLast Aug 2023 #56

Johnny2X2X

(24,207 posts)
2. This is insane
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 10:06 AM
Aug 2023

Here in Michigan they attempted to break into machines too. They tried to steal the election!

And who know what other states they may have done this in and didn’t get caught. Maybe Biden win Texas and Florida, but they broke into machines there and changed votes. Did they try the same things in 2016?

This was their attempt to “find Trump 12,000 votes” and it is a grave threat to our democracy. They tried to steal it and need to pay.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
3. You know , Johnny, those perfidious clowns will say ...
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 10:08 AM
Aug 2023

You know , Johnny, those perfidious clowns will say they were just showing how easy the system could be hacked.

Takket

(23,715 posts)
49. if you rob a bank to "prove" how easy it is to rob the bank, you still robbed a bank......
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 04:05 PM
Aug 2023

i hope they try that argument in court! lol

CarolinaNC

(151 posts)
38. What about 2016?
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 12:39 PM
Aug 2023

If they did this for 2020, what about 2016. Most evil crooks I"ve ever heard of! They deserve prison for LIFE!

karin_sj

(1,370 posts)
43. Exactly!
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 03:18 PM
Aug 2023

That's what I was thinking. It's not far fetched to wonder if this happened during the 2016 election.

reACTIONary

(7,162 posts)
52. In Michigan the beak in occurred...
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 04:25 PM
Aug 2023

AFTER the election. There was no attempt to, nor was there the possibility of, altering votes.

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
54. RICO's A Train - Trump's Ass Is The Track - Georgia's The First - It Won't Be The Last!
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 04:31 PM
Aug 2023

Twenty-nine states employ RICO statutes. Twenty-nine states with Trump's ass as the track.

Michigan may very well be next in line. Damn skippy!! Get 'em y'all!!

yellowdogintexas

(23,694 posts)
55. No way Biden votes were changed in Texas to deny him the state.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 10:05 PM
Aug 2023

The margins were far too wide; the amount of effort it would have taken to mess with enough votes to flip the state is enormous.
It would have been really hard to change enough votes to deny Biden a win.
Not to mention the down ballot races were disastrous for the Democrats, so if vote tampering was going on, some of those races might have turned out differently

Flipping Biden votes to Trump votes would be much easier in say North Carolina which was a close election.

Mr. Ected

(9,714 posts)
5. While we've been tuned into Trump's "perfect phone call "
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 10:46 AM
Aug 2023

Fani has uncovered the smoking howitzer.

RICO would like to have a word with you, GOP. All of you, from local level to DC.

Something something Hillary Clinton something right wing conspiracy.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
7. Mafia boss Trump and his underlings tried destroying our Democracy. The orange lunatic is still free
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 10:49 AM
Aug 2023

Evolve Dammit

(21,774 posts)
44. that is the bottom line, sadly. Free as a bird to lie, conspire and get even better at it. nt
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 03:25 PM
Aug 2023

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
8. How ironic that the ones screaming "voter fraud" were the ones conspiring to commit voter fraud
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 10:59 AM
Aug 2023

A whole lot of people are about to have their lives ruined as a result of their own dishonesty. Jobs and careers will be lost, buckets of money spent on legal defense, law licenses revoked, families shamed, prison terms, loss of future voting privileges. And all for what? For Donald Trump? Because they hate Dems? I feel really sorry for them, because somewhere in their upbringing, honesty, integrity, and personal honor just didn't get taught and/or learned.

The only possible positive outcome for them will be to learn quite painfully that crime doesn't pay. But how many of them will learn that lesson?

YDogg

(6,683 posts)
10. I don't feel sorry for them.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 11:22 AM
Aug 2023

These are adults with free will. They decided on their own to follow along.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
22. I'm a Buddhist and am taught to have compassion for all beings equally, and
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 11:44 AM
Aug 2023

without exception. Yes even for corrupt degenerate people. Especially for them, because they are ignorant about how much suffering they cause themselves and others. Compassion is not a get out of jail free card, or a we'll pretend your indiscretions never happened. The law of karma catches up to them eventually, and they will get to experience the consequences of their actions. I don't have to lift a finger to make that happen. Karma will automatically lower the boom on them -- probably next week!

Hatred is poison. Hating them and wishing them ill-will would make me just like them, because that's how they view Dems. The best that I can wish for them is that they learn from their mistakes.

YDogg

(6,683 posts)
26. I find that I'm indifferent.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 11:56 AM
Aug 2023

If anything, I feel bad for their kids, families, etc. who will suffer for their tomfoolery. But they chose to act as they did, and I am not bothered that they will likely experience consequences.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
32. I am not "bothered" by their stupidity and selfishness
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 12:17 PM
Aug 2023

Karma is like gravity. It never stops working. If we don't keep our feet on the ground, we will fall. I don't have to do anything. But if someone were to do anything, it would be best after their convictions and sentencing, to try and remind them that they, and they alone, are the cause of their own fate, and to turn it into a learning experience.

In my Buddhist tradition, there was a guy, Milerepa, who was a criminal and murderer, yet he went on under the guidance of an authentic teacher to become enlightened in 1 lifetime. So I never discount the possibility, no matter how remote, that each and everyone of us can learn from our mistakes and go on to be better people. Of course the chances of that happening are pretty slim for that crowd, but a few might learn something.

jayschool2013

(2,611 posts)
39. Because we have the Establishment Clause in our First Amendment
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 12:42 PM
Aug 2023

Karma has to be written into the statutes and the penalties attached to violating those laws.

I will be rooting for that kind of Karma.

bedazzled

(1,885 posts)
27. Isn't it important that they will be prevented from doing more harm?
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 12:01 PM
Aug 2023

Does that need to be part of the equation? Although all that happens is meant to be. The amount of suffering they cause is extreme. I respect your opinion very much ...

SalviaBlue

(3,109 posts)
11. With the Cons, the accusation is always a confession.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 11:23 AM
Aug 2023

They think they are cleverly inoculating themselves if they accuse us of what they are actually doing. To a certain extent, I think it works for them. It confuses people and makes them think both sides do it.

Obvious85

(262 posts)
14. the most sharply incriminating witnesses against Trump in this indictment are his own lawyers.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 11:29 AM
Aug 2023

Trump Will be convicted on the testimony of his own attorneys,tape recordings, employees, texts, emails, communications from insiders, not from 'angry democrats'

MLAA

(19,745 posts)
15. Michael Flynn and Sidney Powell were in the December 18 meeting.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 11:30 AM
Aug 2023

Please let Flynn finally be finally indicted.

MLAA

(19,745 posts)
19. Exactly and how long he has gotten away with so much thanks to TFG pardoning him.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 11:38 AM
Aug 2023

Prison and loss of his pension should be his future.

Obvious85

(262 posts)
16. Trump wants you to believe that Biden is so incompetent
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 11:30 AM
Aug 2023

yet pulled off the most comprehensive election theft in American history or world history and left no trace of evidence because, remember, 60 cases, 60 court cases were filed and no credible evidence was ever presented 85% of those cases were with Republican judges. Fox News paid $800 million rather than reveal they had no evidence to present just hours before the trial started.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
20. Fox had chance to present evidence...paid 800 million dollars because had zilch.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 11:43 AM
Aug 2023

Put a lid on that coffin, yet the zombie still walks??

Snackshack

(2,587 posts)
25. So there was lots of this apparently.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 11:55 AM
Aug 2023

People don’t seem to remember. Two counties in Florida did get hacked but the governor there and fbi decide the public did need to know which two counties it was.

They had 100,s, 1000,s of opportunities to change votes and hack machines. Take a look at a map the shows all the counties in this country and that was their playing field.

republianmushroom

(22,325 posts)
30. Give this some though.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 12:13 PM
Aug 2023

Do you or anyone else remember that one of Ivanka's patents was for a VOTING MACHINE? Now what does that tell you? The Trumps were dead set on controlling the vote that early on? That's not a mistake - that was on Ivanka's list of patents - a VOTING MACHINE - one MADE IN CHINA. A patent whose manufacture was going to be produced in China and controlled by the Trump Dynasty.

jayschool2013

(2,611 posts)
40. Yep. AP story from 2018
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 12:45 PM
Aug 2023

SHANGHAI (AP) — The Chinese government granted 18 trademarks to companies linked to President Donald Trump and his daughter Ivanka Trump over the last two months, Chinese public records show, raising concerns about conflicts of interest in the White House.

In October, China’s Trademark Office granted provisional approval for 16 trademarks to Ivanka Trump Marks LLC, bringing to 34 the total number of marks China has greenlighted this year, according to the office’s online database. The new approvals cover Ivanka-branded fashion gear including sunglasses, handbags, shoes and jewelry, as well as beauty services and voting machines.

The approvals came three months after Ivanka Trump announced she was dissolving her namesake brand to focus on government work.

FakeNoose

(41,631 posts)
34. From the OP
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 12:21 PM
Aug 2023
On January 1, 2021 – days ahead of the January 7 voting systems breach – Katherine Friess – an attorney working with Giuliani, Sidney Powell and other Trump allies shared a “written invitation” to examine voting systems in Coffee County with a group of Trump allies.

That group included members of Sullivan Strickler, a firm hired by Trump’s attorneys to examine voting systems in the small, heavily Republican Georgia county, according to text messages obtained by CNN.

That same day, Friess sent a “Letter of invitation to Coffee County, Georgia” to former NYPD Police Commissioner Bernie Kerik, who was working with Giuliani to find evidence that would back up their baseless claims of potential widespread voter fraud, according to court documents filed as part of an ongoing civil case.

Friess then notified operatives who carried out the Coffee County breach and others working directly with Giuliani that Trump’s team had secured written permission, the texts show.




Is Katherine Friess indicted yet? Has she told anyone where that "letter" originated?
Lock her up. Lock all of them up!

sunonmars

(8,657 posts)
47. Makes you wonder how many machines nationwide they did get into and we don't know it.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 03:34 PM
Aug 2023

North Carolina smelled for a start, Mitch's election the same with Kentucky smelled real bad.

Jarqui

(10,908 posts)
51. (probably posted here before) It appears that Hunter Biden's data was hacked before
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 04:25 PM
Aug 2023

his laptop went in for repair (or a laptop that looked like his went in for repair).
https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/07/08/the-laptop-everyone-knows-as-hunter-bidens-appears-to-have-been-deleted-starting-february-15-2019/

Really smelly stuff going on.

Chain of custody on the laptop is toast - before it went in for repair.

It might be that they hack his data, make it look worse. Then drag him into Congressional hearings to answer for the data they hacked (in part).

There are other copies of this disk and they may be able to figure some of this out better with them.

If the Special Prosecutor figures that out, they're in deep sh*t

I know it is a little off topic but this hacking business ...

twodogsbarking

(18,779 posts)
53. People will still vote for him. Goes beyond comprehension. Or maybe it is this......
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 04:26 PM
Aug 2023

“Liberals can understand everything but people
who don't understand them.”
― Lenny Bruce

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