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11 Bravo

(23,935 posts)
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 02:00 PM Aug 2023

I finally had all that I could take of the "Civil War" bullshit.

I was enjoying a couple of beers at my local Legion post yesterday afternoon, watching golf, and just shooting the shit. We're about half and half when it comes to the lib/con breakdown, but we pretty much avoid politics and just enjoy each other's company.
But last night a kid I had not seen before, maybe 25 or so, showed up and started to blow MAGA smoke. I found out later from the hostess that he was a Son of the American Legion, meaning he had never served, but his father had. However, that's neither here nor there, because mostly he was just annoying.
He went on for a while about how the right was going to "take back America", and restore Trump to his rightful position in the White House ... the same shit we've all heard ad nauseum. But then he said that he and his "brothers" were ready to take it to the streets if necessary, and if it took a Cvil War to set things right, well then, so be it.
I tried to ignore him, but he just wouldn't shut the fuck up, so I finally turned to confront him.
I said, "Kid, if you ever get your Civil War, it will last about 30 seconds. That's because the first time you see Jim-Bob standing next to you have his fucking head turned into red mist by a .50 caliber sniper round fired from a distance of around 800 yards, you and the rest of your paintball militia will drop your guns, hop on your mopeds, and scamper back to mommy's basement." Then I turned my back on him.
Even the conservatives at the bar started laughing.
The kid never said a word, and didn't even finish his beer. He just kind of disappeared.

It was kind of a "shooting fish in a barrel" situation, but it just felt right.
I would wager that close to 100% of the clowns spouting Civil War rhetoric have never heard a shot fired in anger. If they had, they would be careful what they wished for.

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I finally had all that I could take of the "Civil War" bullshit. (Original Post) 11 Bravo Aug 2023 OP
Bravo, 11Bravo! Ocelot II Aug 2023 #1
👍👏👏👏👏👏 LiberalLoner Aug 2023 #114
A big, fat K&R for this most worthy post! And to the Greatest Page as well! ♥ nt CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2023 #2
Yeah, times 1,000 on that one!!!!!! MyOwnPeace Aug 2023 #7
Bravo! These stolen-valor coat-tailing motherfuckers need to get set straight by those that actually SoFlaBro Aug 2023 #3
"Paintball militia!" I love it! Jilly_in_VA Aug 2023 #4
Bravo. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #5
Excellent! geardaddy Aug 2023 #16
Agreed. nt MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #30
You have that right. Daylily Aug 2023 #50
And what pray tell is the bullshit there? bluesbassman Aug 2023 #61
Really? MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #75
Oh, and BTW, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #76
Are you sure you are on the correct site? TomSlick Aug 2023 #77
lol thanks for posting housecat Aug 2023 #19
But you gotta have a name for em :) V850i Aug 2023 #98
LOL MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #99
I've always been partial to chairborne rangers. rsdsharp Aug 2023 #118
❤️👍👏👏👏 LiberalLoner Aug 2023 #115
THIS malaise Aug 2023 #6
Whew...that left a mark. Boomerproud Aug 2023 #8
I have been lucky kairos12 Aug 2023 #9
Meal Team Six... róisín_dubh Aug 2023 #33
Gravy Seals ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2023 #51
Also a good one lol róisín_dubh Aug 2023 #100
Over the years at DU... keep_left Aug 2023 #63
I've coined "Sofa Seals," but it hasn't taken. n/t malthaussen Aug 2023 #82
One of the Meidas Touch shows used the term "TacTards" Best_man23 Aug 2023 #97
Both "Sofa Seals" and "TacTards" are great as well, and are useful... keep_left Aug 2023 #121
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 blm Aug 2023 #10
Good for you. William769 Aug 2023 #11
Ah yes, bravado combined with thinking life is like Call of Duty. Oneironaut Aug 2023 #12
yup. no connection to the real thing at all. -(nt)- stopdiggin Aug 2023 #84
It reminds me of that onion article about how a new video game is so realistic, Oneironaut Aug 2023 #95
ROFLMAO SouthernDem4ever Aug 2023 #113
Well done! Aristus Aug 2023 #13
Salute to you, brother Aviation Pro Aug 2023 #14
Well Done 11 Bravo!! Fla Dem Aug 2023 #15
Amazing that adult men will say this stuff out loud. maxsolomon Aug 2023 #17
and his choice of venue! GopherGal Aug 2023 #60
Thank you for posting such an elegant and smart rant housecat Aug 2023 #18
Paintball militia! Perfect! yardwork Aug 2023 #20
I can recommend a prayer group for him. usonian Aug 2023 #21
just don't tell onethatcares Aug 2023 #24
Perfect pic to post on the stupid "Civil War" forums... Justice matters. Aug 2023 #43
If they're so rough 'n' tough 'n' big and bold, why do they hide their faces? calimary Aug 2023 #48
You bet. I think we can rule out masking against covid. usonian Aug 2023 #64
Kid probably needed slink off to change his underwear durablend Aug 2023 #22
And go back to your mommy's basement and try and find a pair of socks that aren't sticky. rubbersole Aug 2023 #35
EX-cellent diatribe!!! PCIntern Aug 2023 #23
Best righteous response ever! llmart Aug 2023 #25
Absolutely brilliant! Talitha Aug 2023 #26
Thank you 11 Bravo! louslobbs Aug 2023 #27
Wowee! Red mist! BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #28
Paintball Militia! GB_RN Aug 2023 #29
Last Civil War went really well for the losers. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2023 #31
That's probably pretty accurate. lees1975 Aug 2023 #32
Yep. Just a couple of F-22s flying over their dumb heads would... Justice matters. Aug 2023 #45
Helicopter Gunship ProfessorGAC Aug 2023 #55
Yep, that too. Justice matters. Aug 2023 #58
Who do they think is going to war against who? IronLionZion Aug 2023 #34
AMEN, from a fellow 11B KS Toronado Aug 2023 #36
👍🏼...K&R... 👍🏼 spanone Aug 2023 #37
Well done! Roc2020 Aug 2023 #38
Good. Damn time someone shuts these fucks up. Joinfortmill Aug 2023 #39
They will be as brave as Trump was during the Vietnam War. Emile Aug 2023 #40
OUCH! calimary Aug 2023 #47
I'm always curious about whom, exactly, they think they will be fighting LeftinOH Aug 2023 #41
Some of them seem to think that they will be facing scared, unarmed, weak niyad Aug 2023 #52
Me with a cheap assed .22 and shitty scope ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2023 #54
Hmmm, I am guessing that that proves my satement, yes? niyad Aug 2023 #56
Reminds me that I need to hit the range soon. SYFROYH Aug 2023 #122
Ouch!!!! Initech Aug 2023 #42
they will run azureblue Aug 2023 #44
A WUNNNNNNNNNNNderful post! calimary Aug 2023 #46
Paintball militia and meal team six, meet your National Guard. ooops. niyad Aug 2023 #49
During Obama's first campaign for the WhiteHouse, Delmette2.0 Aug 2023 #53
Bravo! 11 Bravo! Bravo! AKwannabe Aug 2023 #57
boot camp alone treestar Aug 2023 #59
That kid and his fellow travelers aren't the concern. Jedi Guy Aug 2023 #62
IDK the ones you really need to be concerned with durablend Aug 2023 #78
Agree. I've said the same thing here before. wnylib Aug 2023 #90
Yeah. stuck in the middle Aug 2023 #119
Hope it left a mark. Iggo Aug 2023 #65
I had to google "Sons of the American Legion" Skittles Aug 2023 #66
"WTF is that ..." sarge43 Aug 2023 #102
Excellent comeback! ShazzieB Aug 2023 #67
Thank you, very well done. Warpy Aug 2023 #68
As a disabled Vietnam combat vet: The Wizard Aug 2023 #69
right? Skittles Aug 2023 #80
Thank you for your service Roy Rolling Aug 2023 #106
You are braver than me, sagetea Aug 2023 #70
Aaaah, not so brave. To my way of thinking, every day since April 11, 1971 ... 11 Bravo Aug 2023 #86
We're old and we've walked the walk. The Wizard Aug 2023 #123
"hop on your mopeds" BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #71
Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine StoolPigeon Aug 2023 #72
Especially Marines, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #89
Good for you!!!! I too, am sick and tired of this nonsense etc. about a 2nd civil war, etc. It's SWBTATTReg Aug 2023 #73
Well said!!! And it NEEDED to be said! 🎉🎉🎉 FlyingPiggy Aug 2023 #74
Well played and well said. Knicks007 Aug 2023 #79
I hear you. malthaussen Aug 2023 #81
I'm absolutely astounded at how casually 'civil war' stopdiggin Aug 2023 #83
Thanks for setting the idiot straight SouthernDem4ever Aug 2023 #85
Ego was bruised for sure vercetti2021 Aug 2023 #87
Nice work, 11Bravo Artcatt Aug 2023 #88
well said Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #91
awesome. pansypoo53219 Aug 2023 #92
These fools don't know what they are asking for. Lady Freedom Returns Aug 2023 #93
I would surmise that most of these MAGAt's have no combat experience MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #94
And some of us Airedales, too cactusfractal Aug 2023 #108
Rules NowISeetheLight Aug 2023 #96
Saying this must have felt amazing madeup64 Aug 2023 #101
Hand salute Army. Thank you. n/t sarge43 Aug 2023 #103
Those who call for a Civil War . . . Aussie105 Aug 2023 #104
Meh rdchili96 Aug 2023 #105
I respect your right Aussie105 Aug 2023 #110
Right on! kentuck Aug 2023 #107
They have the right to keep and bare arms against a tyrannical government, but... Omnipresent Aug 2023 #109
"Paintball militia" PatSeg Aug 2023 #111
Paintball militia. Baitball Blogger Aug 2023 #112
Way to shut down berksdem Aug 2023 #116
I've spent a fair amount of time around military vets of all... TreasonousBastard Aug 2023 #117
Kick BlueWavePsych Aug 2023 #120
COME HERE YOU!!! Montauk6 Aug 2023 #124

SoFlaBro

(2,216 posts)
3. Bravo! These stolen-valor coat-tailing motherfuckers need to get set straight by those that actually
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 02:07 PM
Aug 2023

served.

Jilly_in_VA

(10,106 posts)
4. "Paintball militia!" I love it!
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 02:08 PM
Aug 2023

Something to add to the list of things to call them. When I hear this crap, I always want to tell them, "If there is one, y'all will be the ones to start it, and we've got the power--and the firepower--in our hands."

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,633 posts)
5. Bravo.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 02:09 PM
Aug 2023


These fucking wannabe's are nothing more than cowards.

I had a similair run in with a MAGAt at a WalMart I had delivered to, I was shopping for supplies for my refrig in my truck, I was wearing my USMC Retired ball cap and a shirt that said Biden/Harris 2020 when confronted by this asshole who started to berate me for supporting Pres. Biden, I looked him square in the eye and pointed to my hat and said that I had earned the right to support anyone I fucking pleased and asked him if he had ever served, at that point he saw something in my eyes that warned him that he was fucking with the wrong person and decided to walk away while he still could on his own power.

Semper Fi.

Daylily

(36 posts)
50. You have that right.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 04:49 PM
Aug 2023

And when someone hears bullsh!t coming out if your mouth, they have a right to call you on it if they want.

V850i

(44 posts)
98. But you gotta have a name for em :)
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 11:45 PM
Aug 2023

Nice job there. Now for a name, we need something to compete with Paintball Militia, maybe Walmart Wingman?? I'm ex Air Force so I like this one!

Boomerproud

(8,029 posts)
8. Whew...that left a mark.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 02:21 PM
Aug 2023

If you got laughs at a Legion Hall, that kid must have been totally off the charts.

kairos12

(13,060 posts)
9. I have been lucky
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 02:25 PM
Aug 2023

my Legion hall seems to have very few, if any, Meal Team Sixes.

I am thankful.

Good work.

keep_left

(1,845 posts)
63. Over the years at DU...
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 05:35 PM
Aug 2023

...I've seen so many fantastic bon mots for these morons: Gravy Seals, Delta Forks Brigade, Meal Team Six, Custard's Last Stand, 101st Chairborne Division, Traitor Tots, Waffle SS, Green Buffets, The Roast Guard, Semper Pie...it never ends. The pictures of these idiots in the memes are even funnier.

What's really unbelievable, though, is seeing Trump go after people like Chris Christie or a Miss Universe contestant about their weight. And he has done so repeatedly and shamelessly. Does this guy own a mirror?!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18163608

Best_man23

(4,942 posts)
97. One of the Meidas Touch shows used the term "TacTards"
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 11:37 PM
Aug 2023

I think it was the one podcast designed to catch interest of veterans.

keep_left

(1,845 posts)
121. Both "Sofa Seals" and "TacTards" are great as well, and are useful...
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 02:06 PM
Aug 2023

...when the chuds in question are not...er..."horizontally challenged". (Most of them always seem to be, most of the time, however).

I remember there was this really repugnant far-right Catholic cleric, "Father Z", who had followed the EWTN-radtrad path to fame and fortune as a "celebrity priest". (EWTN has had numerous scandals because of these people). Anyway, a few years before "Fr Z" was booted from his diocese by his bishop and told to "get a real job", he had started wearing "tactical blacks"; i.e. he paid some unfortunate tailor to modify military tactical wear so that it looked more like the everyday "blacks" a parish priest wears. Basically, he looked like a Gravy Seal with a Roman collar. And yes, "Fr Z" was rather zaftig, of course.
When I saw the term "TacTard", "Fr Z" was the first chud that came to mind.

Oneironaut

(5,573 posts)
12. Ah yes, bravado combined with thinking life is like Call of Duty.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 02:40 PM
Aug 2023

I think most people that talk like this are very young and privileged, in the sense that they’re able to take the idea of armed conflict so lightly. I think they play too many video games and think it’s real life. Lol

Aviation Pro

(12,366 posts)
14. Salute to you, brother
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 02:53 PM
Aug 2023

The template for this ‘civil war’ is that fucking moron, who said something-something about a Ghillie suit and M24 before he got smoked by the FBI.

Spending endless hours playing Call of Duty in your mom’s basement is not training.

maxsolomon

(33,553 posts)
17. Amazing that adult men will say this stuff out loud.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 02:59 PM
Aug 2023

Sad that a 25 year old is so deluded about November 2020.

GopherGal

(2,023 posts)
60. and his choice of venue!
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 05:11 PM
Aug 2023

To say all that at the Legion is just asking for someone to call you on your lack of experience of war.

And you were just the one to do it! Kudos on "paintball militia"!

Justice matters.

(6,990 posts)
43. Perfect pic to post on the stupid "Civil War" forums...
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 04:30 PM
Aug 2023

They think it's a reality-teevee Call-of-Duty game...

PCIntern

(25,797 posts)
23. EX-cellent diatribe!!!
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 03:14 PM
Aug 2023

MY father used to say the equivalent...these guys have no concept of firepower of military forces. None.

lees1975

(3,997 posts)
32. That's probably pretty accurate.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 04:01 PM
Aug 2023

They are completely ignorant of what will really happen if there is a Civil War. They think they'll dress up in their camo pants, bring their guns and somehow, and just march down Pennsylvania Avenue and stick Trump in the White House. What will happen is that the American military will make quick work of any resistance, with superior weapons and no, those oaths means something and so does defending the country against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Frankly, I think any real attempts will be broken up before they get going. This cowardly bunch, defending a liar and a loser, will melt away pretty quick when they realize they might really die doing this.

I doubt the bulk of the mindless followers realize that a Civil War in America would be won by Vladimir Putin, who benefits the most from such a scenario, but Trump knows that to be the case and is willing to be the stooge for him.

ProfessorGAC

(65,861 posts)
55. Helicopter Gunship
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 05:00 PM
Aug 2023

They fly low, they're noisy if they need to be, and they bristle with scary weapons.
Just seeing one a half-mile off at 400 feet would send an awful lot of people scurrying.

Justice matters.

(6,990 posts)
58. Yep, that too.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 05:08 PM
Aug 2023

I once had two F-18s fly above my head (about 200 feet) full-throttle up...

Those engines are noisy like hell!! My ears still buzz...

IronLionZion

(45,836 posts)
34. Who do they think is going to war against who?
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 04:11 PM
Aug 2023

because they don't appear to have the organization skills of the confederacy, who had experienced generals leading them. And even they lost badly to the USA.

These fuckers don't understand that they're closer to Al Qaeda and ISIS than the Colonial army during the revolution.

LeftinOH

(5,364 posts)
41. I'm always curious about whom, exactly, they think they will be fighting
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 04:27 PM
Aug 2023

against "in the streets." Is the "elites?" The "left?" Members of the Democratic Party?

niyad

(114,573 posts)
52. Some of them seem to think that they will be facing scared, unarmed, weak
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 04:51 PM
Aug 2023

and cowardly Dems. I do not possess weapons myself (unless one counts my tongue, and my purse) but those idiots do not seem to understand that there are Dems who DO possess weapons, and do, in fact, know how to use them.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(1,432 posts)
54. Me with a cheap assed .22 and shitty scope
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 04:56 PM
Aug 2023

75 yards, no wind, bench rest
[link:?1689969564|

There's always a bad one when you shoot groups of 5 using non-match ammo.


azureblue

(2,166 posts)
44. they will run
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 04:32 PM
Aug 2023

as soon as one of their meal time militia types gets shot up right beside them. A buddy lying there with his guts hanging out, or half of his face blown off, but still alive.. They are live in some fantasy land where they think they will all go home intact and victorious. Utterly clueless. And stupid.

Delmette2.0

(4,185 posts)
53. During Obama's first campaign for the WhiteHouse,
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 04:53 PM
Aug 2023

I had a young GOP kid asking for my vote and I told him I was a solid Democrat. He started peppering me with the right wing BS. He was getting on my nerves when he finally said They're coming for your guns. I just flat out told him, If that happens, Barney Fife won't be knocking at your door. It will be a Blackhawk helicopter the will blow you and your house off the map.
He has a blank look in his face and wished me a good day and left. I had never talked like that to anyone. I hope I never have to again.
I think I had enough grey hair for him to think I knew what i was talking about.

AKwannabe

(5,731 posts)
57. Bravo! 11 Bravo! Bravo!
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 05:07 PM
Aug 2023

I am a bartender at an American Legion. And an Auxiliary member. My dad Vietnam vet.
I shut down all political talk politely as I can.
Helps that I’m a member even though it is auxiliary.

Well said, man. Scared the pee outta him probably.

Jedi Guy

(3,301 posts)
62. That kid and his fellow travelers aren't the concern.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 05:26 PM
Aug 2023

Any idjit who thinks they're going to have a snowball's chance against the US military in a stand-up engagement is delusional.

The ones to worry about are the ones who aren't planning or dumb enough to get into a stand-up engagement. The ones to worry about are the ones planning to hit things like power stations, water facilities, and other critical infrastructure. Those kinds of insurgent tactics are a lot harder to deal with.

They wouldn't win, but they could certainly blow some stuff up, do some damage, and kill some people before they were tracked down and broken. They certainly wouldn't reinstall Trump in the Oval Office, but a reign of terror, however brief, would still be a horrifying development.

durablend

(7,505 posts)
78. IDK the ones you really need to be concerned with
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 07:43 PM
Aug 2023

Are Joe and Bethany Pissedoffs in the neighborhood. Yeah, they won't go on a mass shooting rampage but expect stuff like road rage to ramp up to 200 not to mention daily encounters in the stores when any little thing will set them off.

wnylib

(22,080 posts)
90. Agree. I've said the same thing here before.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 08:46 PM
Aug 2023

There are people who would use terrorist guerrilla tactics. They would not be able to install Trump in the White House, but they could create a lot of chaos, structural damage, and loss of life.

 
119. Yeah.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 01:14 PM
Aug 2023

I think the dangers they pose is vastly underestimated.

There are people who would use terrorist guerrilla tactics. They would not be able to install Trump in the White House, but they could create a lot of chaos, structural damage, and loss of life.

Skittles

(153,664 posts)
66. I had to google "Sons of the American Legion"
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 06:11 PM
Aug 2023

WTF is that......like you said, YOU NEVER SERVED, sit the fuck down

sarge43

(28,951 posts)
102. "WTF is that ..."
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 04:12 AM
Aug 2023

Pathetic attempt to boost membership and motor mouth wannabes is what they get.

Apparently the American Legion don't have daughters.

ShazzieB

(16,854 posts)
67. Excellent comeback!
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 06:20 PM
Aug 2023

Good job, putting that jerk in his place!

You summed up exactly why I'm not worried about a "civil war" myself but did a much better job of laying it all out than I ever could.

Warpy

(111,666 posts)
68. Thank you, very well done.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 06:22 PM
Aug 2023

Oh, he'll see his civil war, all right, but it's going to be fought in his own party and whether or not it will lead to actual bloodshed is anyone's guess. I have high hopes for fistfights at their convention next year. I've been waiting all my life for the unholy alliances devised by Nixon and especially Reagan to break down completely as the devils those two made deals with try to take over from the big money...and each other.

Of course, he was in no mood to listen to where the real fight was going to be. You took care of his dreams of standing atop the barricades, heroically welcoming King TFG into his rightful place over the dead bodies of at least 81 million of his fellow citizens. He'll probably just switch bars, but he'll always be looking for you in the crowd.



The Wizard

(12,580 posts)
69. As a disabled Vietnam combat vet:
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 06:30 PM
Aug 2023

Everything changes once the shooting starts. These jerkoffs think war is a video game or a drive by.

Roy Rolling

(6,964 posts)
106. Thank you for your service
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 06:28 AM
Aug 2023

Vietnam was America’s last major war with soldiers at risk. 58,000 killed in action. Never forget, even when replaced by “modern” wars.




sagetea

(1,385 posts)
70. You are braver than me,
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 06:56 PM
Aug 2023

That's for sure! I shake whenever I type a response!

The only time I was confronted was at the the public pool, a lady told me she thought we should rake our Forrests, I just looked at her and said "Nawwww" and swam away!!

Thank you for your bravery, for your life of bravery!

Ho`

sage

11 Bravo

(23,935 posts)
86. Aaaah, not so brave. To my way of thinking, every day since April 11, 1971 ...
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 08:14 PM
Aug 2023

(it was Easter Sunday) has been gravy.
I'm 72 now, and should probably be more careful with my words, but to be honest, I don't much give a shit.

The Wizard

(12,580 posts)
123. We're old and we've walked the walk.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 09:12 PM
Aug 2023

Sometimes I'm ready to react badly, but I usually point and laugh. Ridicule works. We're here to talk about it so I guess we won.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,633 posts)
89. Especially Marines,
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 08:24 PM
Aug 2023

the finest fighting force on the planet and in the universe.
Of course, I may be a tad bit biased, but the truth is there.

Semper Fi.

SWBTATTReg

(22,453 posts)
73. Good for you!!!! I too, am sick and tired of this nonsense etc. about a 2nd civil war, etc. It's
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 07:31 PM
Aug 2023

amazing how many of these people sprout off about taking to the streets, etc., and setting 'things' right?

I could go on and on. E.g., what do they mean by 'setting things right'?

And what do they mean by taking America back? Isn't America all of ours, and not just one group of people? How do they justify this unilateral action to illegally overthrow the government (Pres. Biden), for that is exactly what they are proposing.

I guess by default, they would install tRUMP into office of course (illegally of course since tRUMP didn't win still), thus these idiots are talking about illegally replacing a legitimately installed government represented by Pres. Joe Biden.

Your statement about be careful what you wish for, is so on spot, so ironic, for once the gunfire starts, it'll end rather quickly I think, and rather badly, for these idiots, these want-to-play soldiers, these 'fake soldiers', since I seem to recall that our military is still supporting
President Biden, as they should, per the Constitution.

Knicks007

(73 posts)
79. Well played and well said.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 07:47 PM
Aug 2023

It's 100% true, of course. They're all a bunch of babies. They'd shit their pants if they saw real combat I imagine.

malthaussen

(17,289 posts)
81. I hear you.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 07:53 PM
Aug 2023

The media love it, of course, they whine and wring their hands and fulminate mightily on a subject about which they know nothing.

-- Mal

stopdiggin

(11,534 posts)
83. I'm absolutely astounded at how casually 'civil war'
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 08:01 PM
Aug 2023

is being tossed around these days.

Almost guaranteed that you're talking to (or overhearing) a true ignoramus.
Anybody that has even a casual acquaintance with a real 'civil war' ...
Doesn't harbor these kind of 'action film' fantasies.

------- --------

SouthernDem4ever

(6,618 posts)
85. Thanks for setting the idiot straight
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 08:10 PM
Aug 2023

I am ready for their so-called civil war. It will be funny watching morons trying to play soldier.

vercetti2021

(10,166 posts)
87. Ego was bruised for sure
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 08:16 PM
Aug 2023

He probably went home crying on the PC to his online buddies about some meanie who bullied him

pansypoo53219

(21,057 posts)
92. awesome.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 09:45 PM
Aug 2023

i had lots of fun playing sheepshead at my great-uncle's VFW post. sadly i only played w/ him once. fun playing w/ widows + vets.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,633 posts)
94. I would surmise that most of these MAGAt's have no combat experience
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 10:15 PM
Aug 2023

and no clue what real combat is all about.
I'll wager a month of my pension that most would toss their weapons at the first round whistling past their heads, or their buddies dropping like flies next to them, and run home to mama's house and hide in the basement cowering in fear.

These MAGAt's just don't seem to understand that millions of us combat vets would stand up and fight against their fascist dreams.

cactusfractal

(504 posts)
108. And some of us Airedales, too
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 06:45 AM
Aug 2023

When they get going about their right to guns "in case we need to fight a tyrannical government", I like to challenge them.

What are your neighborhood choke points? Where's the high ground? When the balloon goes up, how long does it take you to rally, and how many do you have? What's your comms plan when the cell towers are shut down? What's your secondary comms plan when your Amazon walkie-talkies are nothing but static? How's your night ops capability? You, um, got any MANPADS?😂

They really don't think much beyond the pew-pew, apparently not realizing that modern warfare is not remotely like the Revolutionary War, and they aren't Mel Gibson.

Funny how the guys going on about this the loudest are never the ex-grunts, innit?

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
96. Rules
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 10:48 PM
Aug 2023

The American Legion post I belong to, the DAV chapter, and the Masonic lodge I belong to all have the same rule. Two things are not to be discussed. RELIGION and POLITICS. Good rule as far as I'mconcerned.

madeup64

(257 posts)
101. Saying this must have felt amazing
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 04:03 AM
Aug 2023

The right's constant fascination with murdering their fellow Americans is really sickening.

Aussie105

(5,601 posts)
104. Those who call for a Civil War . . .
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 05:15 AM
Aug 2023

See themselves on the sidelines, out of harm's way, but ready to jump in when the shooting stops and their side wins, to claim the glory of victory.

Reality is somewhat different.

I blame all the American B grade movies where proclaiming yourself to be the Good Guy guarantees a win.

Ever noticed gory video games have a reset option, and the many corpses of your enemies just disappear after a few seconds?
Convenient and tidy, but not realistic.

In reality, corpses stink after a while, enough to make you puke, especially in hot weather, and the flies are in numbers you wouldn't believe.

Being fired at is one type of hell, surviving and being part of the cleanup afterwards is another.
You go numb at the time, the nightmares come later.

I hope it doesn't come to that.

rdchili96

(175 posts)
105. Meh
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 05:41 AM
Aug 2023

Blaming movies for anything is moronic, so I hard disagree with your third statement.

Not sure what the point of your fourth statement is, it doesn't make much sense.

Omnipresent

(5,831 posts)
109. They have the right to keep and bare arms against a tyrannical government, but...
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 07:43 AM
Aug 2023

Squaring off against a non 18th century power, would be suicide.

They can have their heavily armed militia blown to pieces, without getting a shot off, by a simple drone strike.

Modern warfare has made the 2nd amendment, obsolete.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
117. I've spent a fair amount of time around military vets of all...
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 12:48 PM
Aug 2023

eras, and am actually one myself, although I never went to Nam but was drafted in the era.

One thing I have never heard a vet of any era describe is combat itself. My father was, in the Battle of the Bulge, but he never talked about just what it was like to shoot the Nazi who just killed one of your Poker buddies. The fear, the rage, of real war is not talked about by those who have been through it. Is it the wish to forget, or the understanding that you will just never understand?

So, our myths about war talk about the John Wayne parts of it, ignoring the Two Women cowering in the streets with Sophia Loren just praying her daughter survives it all.

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