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kentuck

(115,617 posts)
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 07:18 AM Aug 2023

Why they chose Georgia?

It was mostly the decision of Trump and Giuliani, in my opinion. Georgia was the most "Republican" of all the contested states, with a Republican Governor, Secretary of State, and State House.

Although Georgia, or no one state, would give Trump the votes he needed to win the electoral votes for the presidency, it would cast doubt on the other states in question, or so they hoped.

They believed Georgia would be the catalyst to challenging the votes in the other states and moving their legislators to act in their behalf.

It was a conspiracy from the beginning. Few, if any, of the conspirators actually believed that Trump won the election, but they were willing to go along with the crazy, illegal scheme.

Now, it has come almost full circle.

All that is left is the trial and the verdict.

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Why they chose Georgia? (Original Post) kentuck Aug 2023 OP
They tried the same stuff elsewhere Johnny2X2X Aug 2023 #1
Michigan llmart Aug 2023 #10
Agree Johnny2X2X Aug 2023 #12
Re: Michigan James48 Aug 2023 #16
Wisconsin is about to go through this Johnny2X2X Aug 2023 #23
I thought trump had invited them to the White House before Bluethroughu Aug 2023 #19
And failed in all 7 states -- 3 in the SW, 3 in the NE, 1 in the south. Hortensis Aug 2023 #24
The arrogant fools had no idea about Georgia's RICO laws and further that Raffensperger was recordin malaise Aug 2023 #2
Yes. kentuck Aug 2023 #4
Precisely malaise Aug 2023 #5
You got it right, kentuck. jaxexpat Aug 2023 #3
I think the devil is going to lose another one... DemocraticPatriot Aug 2023 #6
THIS!!☝️ onetexan Aug 2023 #7
...and this time, he ran into Fani, not Johnny.... lastlib Aug 2023 #9
Opening song on Stephanie Miller this morning Unwind Your Mind Aug 2023 #15
Daniels was a hard right trump humper. Traildogbob Aug 2023 #17
I was considering SilverDawg Aug 2023 #8
I'm in DeKalb County. Dulcinea Aug 2023 #26
Georgia republicans were...insulted by the notion they couldn't run a fair election. Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 #11
The Perfect crime. LiberalFighter Aug 2023 #13
True, GA Gov. Kemp ran on a Trump-like campaign. SYFROYH Aug 2023 #14
Plus leftieNanner Aug 2023 #18
Ah-ha! That's the ticket! Bluethroughu Aug 2023 #21
They also thought they could flip the Senate back... Wounded Bear Aug 2023 #20
Trials, verdicts, & sentences! CaptainTruth Aug 2023 #22
They were picking states that were either trifecta GOP or with GOP-controlled state legislatures BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #25

Johnny2X2X

(24,434 posts)
1. They tried the same stuff elsewhere
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 07:24 AM
Aug 2023

Michigan , Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania all had similar plots.

In Michigan they also illegally seized voting machines and tried to break into it. They had a voting machine in a hotel room. They have charged a bunch of GOP in Michigan, just haven’t linked it to Trump directly yet, but I think that day is coming.

llmart

(17,728 posts)
10. Michigan
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 09:14 AM
Aug 2023

We are so fortunate that voters went full on Democrat and flipped our State House.

And, a big shout out to Dana Nessel!! Love that woman.

Johnny2X2X

(24,434 posts)
12. Agree
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 09:15 AM
Aug 2023

So proud of what Michigan democrats have accomplished here since 2016. A total take over of the state and the results we're seeing are amazing.

I do think Nessel may charge Trump.

James48

(5,255 posts)
16. Re: Michigan
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 09:37 AM
Aug 2023

A good deal of that “ takeover”is owed to the change in redistributive cringe law we passed in 2018. If the republicans had sole control of distracting, instead of the neutral citizens panel, we’d still be under R control with 46% of the voters.

Every state needs to model our vote and change in redistricting law.

Johnny2X2X

(24,434 posts)
23. Wisconsin is about to go through this
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 10:09 AM
Aug 2023

Controllinig state supreme courts is huge. Michigan had non partisan redistricting that the state supreme court allowed on the ballot when the GOP tried to remove it. This was actually made possible by a GOP judge going against her party. So we redistricted. Then other ballot initiatives like legal weed, protecting voter rights, and protecting women's body autonomy rights made the ballot and drove lberal turnout.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
19. I thought trump had invited them to the White House before
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 09:57 AM
Aug 2023

1/6? For a dinner, Mcdonald's, and a meeting to discuss their electoral votes.

malaise

(297,921 posts)
2. The arrogant fools had no idea about Georgia's RICO laws and further that Raffensperger was recordin
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 07:27 AM
Aug 2023

Sweet.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
3. You got it right, kentuck.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 07:28 AM
Aug 2023

Geographically speaking, of course, Georgia was the slipknot in the noose for this confederacy of conspirators. If it wouldn't play, Trump couldn't count on any of the others. Poor lonely Donald....... Who, now, will make America great again?

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
6. I think the devil is going to lose another one...
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 08:02 AM
Aug 2023

For some reason, all this reminded me of an old song.... lol



lastlib

(28,603 posts)
9. ...and this time, he ran into Fani, not Johnny....
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 09:11 AM
Aug 2023

And Fani is by far the better "fiddler," as it were.

For which we are ALL grateful beyond measure!

Traildogbob

(13,159 posts)
17. Daniels was a hard right trump humper.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 09:37 AM
Aug 2023

Are there not better Georgia songs? On the other hand, Maybe there is irony in tying ole Charlie right to the wagon of trumps fall from “Grace”.

SilverDawg

(886 posts)
8. I was considering
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 09:11 AM
Aug 2023

This very question late last night while anticipating indictments. I’m a citizen of Fulton County, Atlanta and I’m taking this very personally. Georgia has
been a reliable red state in Presidential and Governor elections since Bill Clinton and Gov. Roy Barnes. So a shock when the State went for Biden in 2020. I believe DJT and co conspirators thought we were stupid Southerners who could be intimidated and run over. WRONG.

Dulcinea

(10,306 posts)
26. I'm in DeKalb County.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 10:51 AM
Aug 2023

Plenty of us here worked hard to make sure Biden was elected in this state. We're fully prepared to do it again. That includes native Georgians & transplants alike. None of us are stupid or intimidated by these losers.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
11. Georgia republicans were...insulted by the notion they couldn't run a fair election.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 09:14 AM
Aug 2023

Gerrymandering they can do fine and without regret or remorse… and are prepared to take the flak…but incompetence allegations??…is…too far a reach. That’s personal.

SYFROYH

(34,214 posts)
14. True, GA Gov. Kemp ran on a Trump-like campaign.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 09:25 AM
Aug 2023

Trump probably thought they would be agreeable.

Kemp is very conservative and it shows in the laws he signs, but he is not a MAGAt.

leftieNanner

(16,168 posts)
18. Plus
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 09:49 AM
Aug 2023

Georgia is in the Appeals Court under Clarence Thomas. They planned to push it up to him (and Ginni, of course).

Wounded Bear

(64,628 posts)
20. They also thought they could flip the Senate back...
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 09:58 AM
Aug 2023

but it seems them being in the spotlight for those weeks in Dec/Jan motivated the Democratic base to make sure the Senate seats went Dem. trump is a loser, and races that spotlight him tend to be bad for repubs.

CaptainTruth

(8,257 posts)
22. Trials, verdicts, & sentences!
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 10:07 AM
Aug 2023

And I'm hoping the verdicts & sentences aren't disappointing.

BumRushDaShow

(172,207 posts)
25. They were picking states that were either trifecta GOP or with GOP-controlled state legislatures
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 10:28 AM
Aug 2023

(with a couple "backups" for good measure)

In the case of GA, with a (R) Governor & (R) legislature, when they saw that Ossoff had actually come close enough to Purdue to have to do a run-off, and Warnock's first special election run that Nov. 2020, also required him to do a run-off, those 2 circumstances seemed to be the canary in the coal mine there (and that's not counting the Stacy Abrams factor although she couldn't break through the Kemp wall).

Similarly, AZ had a (R) Governor and (R) legislature (although a (D) SOS) and then you suddenly had a " (D) " (in quotes) - Kyrsten Sinema, flip Jeff Flake's (R) seat in 2018 and another (D) - Mark Kelly - eventually flip McCain's seat the following year in 2020. More alarm bells to start attacking the elections.

So with the above 2, they were hoping their GOP buddies would "go along".

Here in PA, we had a (D) Governor and SOS but a (R)-controlled state legislature, so they wanted to try to do their shenanigans with Ghouliani's help by throwing lawsuit after lawsuit against us here, while attempting to rally the legislature to do anything in their power to reverse what was looking like a flip back to blue - possibly thanks to the-then brand new "no excuse absentee ballots" that the (R) legislature almost unanimously enacted (save for 1 GOP legislator). Before 2020, the last time PA voted (R) for President was 1988. What helped here thwarting some of the lawsuits was that PA had a (D)-majority state Supreme Court.

WI and MI both had trifectas at the time but they also had some (D) Senators (Debbie Stabenow and Gary Peters in MI & Tammy Baldwin in WI), so that was more "warning signs" for them that those states could flip back.

NV and NM were odd borderline ones for them but NM had a (R) Governor at least through 2018 as did NV.

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