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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAbout that secret trump pocket pardon....
I've been told here it doesn't exist or even pertain to state brought charges. But I believe Monday at 11 am is when he tells the nation that he pardoned himself, maybe show a document signed by his entire cabinet.
Of course it'll go nowhere, but this cornered rat knows he will need to pull out his only nuclear weapon in his arsenal. Only he and his cult will think its legit.
Only my opinion, but if he has it, this would be the time he would declare it.
ret5hd
(22,502 posts)it would have no effect on state charges. It
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Explain how Trump would prove that he issued the Pardon when he was President.
Explain why he wouldn't have used it after the first three indictments.
newdayneeded
(2,493 posts)he'll declare it thinking it's some sort of super powerful weapon that'll make him completely immune. Trump will believe it, the fucker believes anything crazy like this.
My post was only to speculate on his insane moves, nothing else.
I know it won't be legit. you know it won't be legit, but donny and his cult will think its the best thing ever.
LastDemocratInSC
(4,242 posts)getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)They have zero reach at the state level.
Even so, if he tried it in the DC case, it would be challenged and he would probably lose.
But that is an argument for constitutional scholars, which I aint.
we can do it
(13,024 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(179,869 posts)To get a pardon under Georgia law, TFG has to (1) complete their sentence; (2) have no pending charges; and (3) wait five years.
Link to tweet
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/georgia-case-trump-cant-count-pardon-gops-kemp-rcna99962
Could Brian Kemp, Georgias Republican governor whos been the target of Trumps ire in recent years, come to the former presidents rescue? No, thats not an option, either. As Jordans report went on to explain, under the state constitution, theres a board of pardons and paroles, with five members appointed by the governor and confirmed by the state Senate to staggered, seven-year terms.
OK, so maybe the states pardon board could rescue Trump in the wake a possible criminal conviction? Unfortunately for the former president, its not nearly that simple: To be considered for a pardon in Georgia, someone must, among other things, (1) complete their sentence; (2) have no pending charges; and (3) wait five years.
Or put another way, if Trump is found guilty in Georgia, he wont be able to simply turn to partisan allies for some kind of rescue. Such a solution doesnt exist under state law.
There are proposals to change Georgia law just for TFG. We will see what happens
onenote
(46,142 posts)Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)So that is why he pardoned himself.
dweller
(28,410 posts)Hell pull it from
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Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Otherwise, the so-called pocket pardon has no legal force or effect.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)marble falls
(71,926 posts)... he lost the election?
Let alone his pardon won't help him in Georgia. His jury would have to think he's guilty as shit.