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Renaissance Man

(680 posts)
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 04:18 PM Aug 2023

30 Unindicted Co-Conspirators from the Georgia Indictment

There are 30 unindicted co-conspirators mentioned in the Georgia indictment. Is there any chance that any of these unindicted co-conspirators could be Ginny Thomas? Something's telling me that as big of an activist that she is, she wouldn't have allowed a good criminal scheme to overturn the election to get away from her if she'd had the opportunity to assist with the attempted coup.

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30 Unindicted Co-Conspirators from the Georgia Indictment (Original Post) Renaissance Man Aug 2023 OP
Sounds like 30 potential witnesses for the prosecution. marble falls Aug 2023 #1
Thats a big pool of potential flippers! n/t Cheezoholic Aug 2023 #2
Graham? GreenWave Aug 2023 #3
Lindsey almost certainly flipped Danascot Aug 2023 #7
I don't know, but I stronly suspect Michael Flynn is one of them (and I dearly hope he ends up hlthe2b Aug 2023 #4
Agreed. GreenWave Aug 2023 #8
Seth does a GREAT JOB starting to identify the 30 co-conspirators. Also suggests wiggs Aug 2023 #5
This is just the beginning. 2naSalit Aug 2023 #6
Can "unindicted co-conspirators" be called as witnesses? kentuck Aug 2023 #11
From the Independent: Who are the 30 'unindicted co-conspirators' onetexan Aug 2023 #9
30 unindicted co-conspirators? kentuck Aug 2023 #10

Danascot

(5,266 posts)
7. Lindsey almost certainly flipped
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 07:00 PM
Aug 2023

He made a phone call to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger suggesting that mail-in votes be tossed for signatures not matching alleging with no basis that biased poll workers ignored signature mismatches.

The fact that trump called Raffensperger asking to find votes and claiming, also without basis, that the election should be overturned due to fraud.

Trump's calls seem to have been a major justification in his indictment. Since Graham's call was similar it seems like he should have been charged, but wasn't. Which suggests that Lindsey flipped and/or made a plea bargain. We don't know now what happened but eventually we'll find out.

Bill Palmer lays out the possibilities he wasn't indicted:

1) He flipped on the others

2) There wasn't strong enough evidence against him to get a conviction

3) There are more charges coming

Of these #2 seems very unlikely to me. Raffensperger has him on tape. I think he flipped but I have no more knowledge than anyone else does.

hlthe2b

(114,389 posts)
4. I don't know, but I stronly suspect Michael Flynn is one of them (and I dearly hope he ends up
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 04:54 PM
Aug 2023

one of the indicted eventually). He is one of the most creepy and dangerous among Trump's circle. Former Pres. Obama was absolutely right about him. To hear him spew his cringe-worthy, crazy apocalyptical fantasies reminds me of a male version of the child mass murderer recently convicted/sentenced in Idaho: Lori Vallow Daybell.

wiggs

(8,844 posts)
5. Seth does a GREAT JOB starting to identify the 30 co-conspirators. Also suggests
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 05:15 PM
Aug 2023

that indictments are far from over which is encouraging.

(4) Fourth, these thirty unindicted individuals are as or more interesting than the nineteen for the simple reason that they remain an unknown—a mystery. And it seems everyone loves a mystery. Certainly, gauche rubber-necking aside, the roughly thirty names below suggest to us that big revelations still lie ahead; there are many investigations yet to be conducted, and an increasingly reasonable sense that the four sets of indictments we’ve already seen against Donald Trump are just the beginning.

Indeed, given how many coup foot-soldiers and coup plotters have now been indicted, the idea that the list of infamous individuals not yet indicted or listed as unindicted co-conspirators—men and women like Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro, Cleta Mitchell, Ginni Thomas, Roger Stone, Donald Trump Jr., Kimberly Guilfoyle, Ali Alexander, Alex Jones, Christina Bobb, Kash Patel, Cindy Chafian, Bianca Gracia, Garrett Ziegler, Michael Flynn, Lindsay Graham, Ted Cruz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Andy Biggs, Paul Gosar, Scott Perry, Tommy Tuberville, Louie Gohmert, and others—are all going to go unindicted (even as some surely will, as some surely didn’t commit any identifiable crime for all their unethical conduct) has now become a non-starter.

There simply can be no doubt that many, many more indictments—both superseding and otherwise—are yet to come. The list of unindicted but now-identified Trump co-conspirators below is certainly a great place to start in imagining what direction the January 6 investigation(s) might head in next.


for those who can view: https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/proof-exclusive-an-annotated-list?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

I don't know how accurate this is and exactly how he identified them, but I know he's knowledgable and often correct.

kentuck

(115,498 posts)
11. Can "unindicted co-conspirators" be called as witnesses?
Wed Aug 16, 2023, 09:08 AM
Aug 2023

Cannot they take the "Fifth"?

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
9. From the Independent: Who are the 30 'unindicted co-conspirators'
Wed Aug 16, 2023, 06:51 AM
Aug 2023
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coconspirators-unindicted-b2393821.html

"In all, the sweeping charging document outlines a vast criminal conspiracy case connecting the actions of more than 50 people accused of trying to undermine and subvert the outcome of the 2020 election, including attempts to appoint a fraudulent slate of electors loyal to the former president, a harassment campaign targeting election workers, and efforts to copy and distribute sensitive voting machine data from a state elections office.

Typically, prosecutors include “unindicted co-conspirators” who are believed to have conspired with the named defendants to commit a crime or multiple crimes, as indicated in the massive RICO case against Mr Trump and his allies. But prosecutors have either provided them some immunity from prosecution in exchange for their testimony or have reached another arrangement...

Unindicted co-conspirators nine through 19 are likely the other fake electors who have not been charged in the indictment, while unindicted co-conspirators 24 through 29 are among those likely involved in a scheme to hijack voting machine software in Coffee County. Several people allegedly involved in an effort to seize voting machine software and share files with other election deniers were charged with several crimes in the indictment.

One key unindicted co-conspirator – No 20 – allegedly joined a White House meeting on 18 December 2020 involving Mr Trump and attorney Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell to discuss “certain strategies and theories intended to influence the outcome” of the 2020 election, “including seizing voting equipment” and appointing Ms Powell “as special counsel with broad authority to investigate allegations of voter fraud in Georgia and elsewhere,” according to the indictment..."

kentuck

(115,498 posts)
10. 30 unindicted co-conspirators?
Wed Aug 16, 2023, 09:04 AM
Aug 2023

I could think of a few.

General Michael Flynn, CEO Patrick Byrne, Boris Epshteyn, Ginny Thomas, Ted Cruz, Jim Jordan, Josh Hawley, and a slew of Republican Congressmen.

Where does it go from here? Are we near the end game? Or are we stuck somewhere in the middle?

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