Lindsey wants Donnie's fate to be determined at ballot box

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(R-S.C.) said Monday that former President Trump’s fate should be left up to voters instead of “liberal jurisdictions trying to put the man in jail.”

Graham said on Fox News’s “Jesse Watters Primetime” that the numerous legal battles Trump is facing are “very unfair,” adding that they will do “a lot of damage to the presidency” over time. The senator’s comments come as a Georgia grand jury hearing evidence about Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election returned an indictment Monday night ...

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4152670-graham-trumps-fate-should-be-decided-at-the-ballot-box/

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1. Republicans have hard time processing Georgia indictment

BY CALEB ECARMA
AUGUST 15, 2023

Senator Lindsey Graham responded to Donald Trump’s fourth and latest indictment Monday with a radical, extrajudicial demand: that voters—not prosecutors or juries—should decide the former president’s legal fate. “The American people can decide whether they want him to be president or not,” Graham said on Fox News after Trump was charged in a sprawling racketeering case stemming from his attempts to overturn Joe Biden’s 2020 electoral victory in Georgia. “This should be decided at the ballot box, not a bunch of liberal jurisdictions trying to put the man in jail.”

The South Carolina Republican also attacked Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis, arguing that her office is too trivial to prosecute a former president. “You up Pandora’s box to the presidency,” he said. “This whole exercise of allowing a county prosecutor to go after the former president of the United States will do a lot of damage to the presidency itself over time.” (Given that Willis is a state-level prosecutor and not a federal one, Trump would be unable to pardon himself should he reclaim the presidency after any conviction in Fulton County) ...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/08/republicans-having-hard-time-processing-trump-georgia-indictment

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2. Misses the entire point of Trump's election scandal

Lindsey Graham believes Donald Trump's fate "should be decided at the ballot box." Didn't we already try that? Isn't it the point of the entire scandal?

Aug. 15, 2023, 8:42 AM EDT
By Steve Benen

When Sen. Lindsey Graham appeared on Fox News last night, Donald Trump’s fourth indictment hadn’t yet been handed down, but there was no great mystery as to what was about to happen. It was only a matter of time.

With this in mind, the South Carolina Republican did exactly what he’s been doing for far too long: As The Hill reported, Graham rallied to defend Donald Trump ...

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/gops-graham-misses-entire-point-trumps-election-scandal-rcna99955

[Hekate]

3. We did, Lindsay, we did. He lost the election, I think by 7 million votes. Now he goes to prison...

So what’s the matter, you spineless soul? Do you think the long arm of the law might be coming for you, too?

[fierywoman]

11. Yes! And that was THREE YEARS AGO already !

[Liberal In Texas]

19. That's right. We did and then he decided to break the law numerous times and

you don't decide the punishment for breaking the laws with another election.

Repubs live in a fantasy world.

[GoCubsGo]

23. Thank you. Just because Trump couldn't deal with the outcome

doesn't mean it hasn't already happened. And, anyone who has been paying attention knows he decided to run again AFTER the investigations started. Your gaslighting is not going to change that fact, you sniveling POS. I can't wait until we find out what Trump has on you.

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4. Graham asks Supreme Court to block a subpoena from grand jury (2022)

By Tierney Sneed and Ariane de Vogue, CNN
Updated 10:02 AM EDT, Sat October 22, 2022

Sen. Lindsey Graham asked the Supreme Court on Friday to block a subpoena from the Atlanta-area special grand jury investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election in Georgia.

The South Carolina Republican filed the emergency request at the high court after the 11th US Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with a lower-court judge on Thursday that the grand jury could seek his testimony.

Graham maintains that his efforts in Georgia after the 2020 election were legislative activities protected by the Speech or Debate Clause of the US Constitution ...

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/21/politics/lindsey-graham-supreme-court-appeal/index.html

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5. Supreme Court says Lindsey Graham must testify (2022)

November 1, 20222:53 PM ET
By Nina Totenberg, Jess Zalph

The Supreme Court said Tuesday that Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., must testify before a grand jury in Georgia. He has been subpoenaed for questioning later this month about allegations that then President Donald Trump tried to interfere with Georgia's ballot count after the 2020 election.

Graham filed an emergency request to block the subpoena late last month. Under the Constitution's "Speech or Debate" clause, sitting senators may not be "questioned" about their legislative activity, which protects them from civil and criminal liability in certain circumstances. The purpose of the clause is to shield legislators from unwarranted intrusions on their duties by other branches of government ...

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/01/1131776586/supreme-court-lindsey-graham-grand-jury-georgia

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6. Graham testifies before Fulton County special grand jury (2022)

By FOX 5 Atlanta Digital TeamPublished November 22, 2022
Updated 8:39PM Fulton County FOX 5 Atlanta

FULTON COUNTY, Ga. - After months of delays and legal arguments, South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham testified before the Fulton County grand jury investigating possible illegal interference in the 2020 election by then-President Donald Trump and his allies ...

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/lindsey-graham-testify-fulton-county-grand-jury-investigation

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9. Witnesses in Trump election meddling probe may have lied under oath

By Joseph Ax
February 17, 20234:46 PM ESTUpdated 6 months ago

... Among the 75 witnesses who gave sworn testimony were close Trump allies such as lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Republican U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham ...

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/parts-report-trumps-georgia-election-meddling-be-released-2023-02-16/

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7. Grand jury recommends perjury indictments

BY ANNA COMMANDER ON 2/19/23 AT 1:35 PM EST

ByOlivia Rubin and Lucien Bruggeman
February 16, 2023, 12:53 PM

The Fulton County, Georgia, grand jury investigating efforts by former President Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the results of the 2020 election has recommended to prosecutors that they seek indictments against witnesses who they believe may have lied during their testimony, according to excerpts of the grand jury's report released Thursday.

"A majority of the grand jury believes that perjury may have been committed by one or more witnesses testifying before it," the grand jury wrote in the report. "The Grand Jury recommends that the District Attorney seek appropriate indictments for such crimes where the evidence is compelling" ...

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/lindsey-graham-testify-fulton-county-grand-jury-investigation

[Mad_Machine76]

8. We did and Trump decided to try to force himself on us anyway

And there’s no guarantee that he would accept a loss in 2024, although he’d be virtually powerless to do anything about it at this time. But that doesn’t mean that he and his supporters won’t just continue the chaos in the country they started in 2020. Also, why is Graham getting upset? There’s no Constitutional prohibition against him being indicted and tried and continuing to run for President. There’s nothing theoretically about him being unable to win no matter his legal status. His beloved isn’t suddenly being denied the ability to run. I hate Lindsey.

[Buns_of_Fire]

10. It sounds like Lindsey is trying to say that elected officials

also receive a "get out of jail free" card on their first day in office and are therefore above all laws for the rest of their lives -- a common belief with Nazipublicans, given how many sociopaths their party attracts.

Learn the difference between political consequences and legal consequences, Lindsey, you spineless southern-fried goofball.

[wnylib]

12. Isn't that what McConnell said about

the appointment of Merick Garland to the Supreme Court? Let the people decide.

The Republican excuse for everything - Let the people decide. But when we do decide, they refuse to honor the decision.

No more RS (Republican shit).

[LastDemocratInSC]

13. As a licensed attorney he can surely identify the law that allows what he's wishing for.

The alternative, of course, is that he's full of shit.

[DemocraticPatriot]

14. I want Lindsey's fate to be determined by the 2nd amendment,

by the definition of those who claim to be its defenders...




/s

[mercuryblues]

15. Lindsey can want in one hand

and shit in the other. See which one gets filled faster.

[Baitball Blogger]

16. So, entitled white male conservatives get a trial by ballot box?

While the rest of us have to adhere to the rule of law?

[Martin Eden]

17. Does that mean Donnie goes to prison if he loses the election?

Asking for a friend.

[Emile]

18. Lindsey belongs in jail with him!

[Deminpenn]

20. It was, in 2020

nt

[marble falls]

21. But abridging the judicial system won't "damage the Presidency". Lindsey is pretzel-ing logic.

[Vinca]

24. I thought it already had been.

[Goodheart]

25. I'm fine with a ballot box inside a jury room.

Twelve voters.

[ecstatic]

26. That piece of shit tried to have my vote tossed in Georgia

And now he's saying to let the voters decide? wtf? Why the fuck isn't he on the list of conspirators?

I'm so sick of refugs and their circular reasoning. They opted out of convicting trump in his second impeachment. They said to let the justice system decide, because he's now a private citizen. 🙄 Law, order, and accountability does not apply to them apparently. We're going to see if we can change that.

[Deep State Witch]

27. Unindicted Co-Conspirator

Any bets on whether Lady G is one of the 30 unindicted co-conspirators in Georgia?

[jcgoldie]

28. That makes sense

You tried to subvert the election and steal the presidency by fraud and ultimately by violence... how should we handle it? Not by charging you with the crimes you committed, how about we give you another shot at it!

[Brainfodder]

29. Please proceed!

[Wounded Bear]

30. Good idea! Let him run for president of his cell block...

[D_Master81]

31. "Let the voters decide"

Republicans keep saying this when it suits them. Let the voters decide the Supreme Court until they rush a nominee through in 5 weeks.
Don’t impeach the president let the voters decide. McConnell even proclaiming that they didn’t let him off he would face the justice system. So now we’re supposed to not prosecute him after not being allowed to impeach him but let the voters decide?

[Autumn]

32. I want Lindsey to go fuck off. I'm sure those on the jury are voters too and they are deciding

what happens to the asshole.