There is no honest person who watches or listens to this and concludes

[malaise]

that the Slobfather is not guilty of criminality'

[kentuck]

1. He doesn't deny the charges.

He only says that he "did nothing wrong".

[H2O Man]

2. Recommended.

Guilty as sin.

[OLDMDDEM]

3. My wife and I knew something like this would happen based on his history.

He is a criminal and will always be known as that. We knew it in 2016. May he go down in a hail storm of shame.

[Buns_of_Fire]

9. I'm looking forward to watching "TRUMP" being chiseled off

all the hotels he doesn't own anyway. Even "HERPES" is going to be a more respectable brand name pretty soon.

[OLDMDDEM]

10. Excellent point.

The rest of the family isn't any better.

[keithbvadu2]

34. Leave his name on his statue

Ozymandias BY PERCY BYSSHE SHELLEY

I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

[malaise]

39. Perfect

[Tetrachloride]

20. +1. We knew. So did everyone. Everyone. maybe i exaggerate

but so what.

knowing isn’t enough

it happened because precautions were not taken

[malaise]

31. THIS

was always going to happen

[hibbing]

4. Sickening n/t

[leftyladyfrommo]

5. He has always played by different rules and it worked

because he used the courts to out stall everyone until they gave up.

It's the only game he knows. It doesn't seem to be working now.

[flying_wahini]

6. They won't watch it. They would rather stay uninformed than believe they were duped.

[bucolic_frolic]

7. April 2016: "rigged elections". July 2016: "Russia, if you're listening ...."

Add Manafort as campaign manager in March/April 2016. It was all inevitable. Predictable. His words were telegraphing his intent, to those of us who were listening and had seen similar personalities.

[malaise]

40. Yes indeed

We knew what was coming

[Chainfire]

8. I think that the OP is, sadly, wrong.

There are millions of Americans who will honestly believe, until their dying days, that all of this drama was an unfair, and unprecedented attack on Trump, who is incapable of doing wrong. They will believe that the deep state came after their hero because he was trying to Make America Great Again, that it comes from people who "hate freedom." It works exactly like religions, where no amount of evidence to the contrary can convince a "true believer" that their "god" is a myth, and that disbelief is heresy.

[tiredtoo]

43. Ditto EOM

[BlueIn_W_Pa]

50. Well, I guess they aren't intellectually honest then

[riversedge]

11. It was worth listening to trump [for once] HE is really convinced he won-Georgia!!

AMERICAN COUP: 🪦 Please be aware, as you listen to this recording, that it features Donald Trump, a former President of the United States, and his goons Cleta Mitchell, and Mark Meadows attempting to undermine the votes of the American public whom he has pledged to serve and safeguard. It is acceptable to legally contest an election that he did not win, he was rejected in every court. His actions deem him dangerous and unsuitable for the role of Commander-in-Chief, and any Republicans who support him in this endeavor should also face consequences by forfeiting their positions as lawmakers within our nation. #DemVoice1 #wtpBLUE

Link to tweet

?s=20

[localroger]

24. The skill of successful lying is making yourself believe what you say

This is how people are trained to beat polygraphs, and is a fundamental tool of the propagandist. I believe Trump actually studied (obviously not from a book, probably from seminars or teach-ins with Cohn) some of the arts of propaganda because he regularly uses some of the more specialized ones, like A-B testing, in his public appearances. He's been doing it so long that it's second nature to him.

[malaise]

37. Well he thought he had perfected it

but Fani got him - still he is one of the best LIARs out there

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

55. Psychopaths need zero training to beat a polygraph

They don't have to train to learn how to lie. They lie from the time they realize they can do it. We're talking as young children, 3, 4 years old.

The reason they can beat polygraphs is because they do not have the same responses to things that normal people do. To anything. Normal people have uncontrollable physical reactions when they're under stress, especially the stress of lying--flushed skin, sweating, rapid heartbeat, faster/more difficult respiration, and so on.

Psychopaths don't. They feel nothing when they lie. Or during other things that stress out normal people, like, oh, when a cop pulls them over. Most of us, even if we've done nothing wrong, we'll panic about that, a little or a lot. Psychopaths? No panic, whatsoever, even if they have a dead body in the trunk. Or a live one, tied up. It means nothing to them, the cop means nothing to them, so they don't panic at all. They'll be as cool and calm as can be. Same thing with lying.

We normal people panic or get stressed because we understand potential consequences of actions. I don't know if psychopaths are familiar with that, but what I do know is that they never consider something as meaningless to them as consequences. They don't care about those in the least. That's why lying is easy for them. Because it means nothing to them.

And the things psychopaths will lie about? How many libraries do you want to dig through for examples? They lie to get what they want. They lie to crush your ego for trying to thwart them. They'll lie to get even with someone. Bloody hell, they'll lie for the sheer pleasure of it, and nothing else. They do it, without one iota of panic or anxiety, and they were that way as young children.

My brother is one of these monsters. He could lie with ease at 4 years old--and did. All the time. That wasn't training. That was his psychopathy already exerting itself.

They also don't have to believe a lie they tell, or disbelieve it, either, because belief (or a lack thereof) in what they're saying is entirely immaterial to them. They do not care if something is true or not. The veracity of something doesn't even occur to them. The only thing they believe in is getting what they want. Lies are merely one means to that end for them. They have other evil tricks in their arsenal, but lying is usually the fastest and easiest way to get the job done. Which is why they do it so much.

Too many people make the classic mistake of thinking that psychopaths like TFG are normal and will do things for the reasons normal people do. But they don't. They are not normal.

[malaise]

33. Nice

Thanks

[Jarqui]

41. That's what a conman does

They have to convince people of their scam by presenting it as if they really believe it.
They're criminal actors out of necessity.
If they can't do that, they won't con many people.
Trump has been doing it all his life - he's had a lot of practice.

[brush]

12. Like a dog refusing to let go of a bone.

He keeps rattling off bogus numbers and won't listen to the state official numbers.

Insane.

[Ohio Joe]

13. Criminal

Zero doubt.

[William769]

14. Honest is the key word.

None of them have an honest bone in their body.

[cutroot]

15. His supporters are just sticking with him out of spite now

They don’t believe him either but they just want to piss you off for being right

[Grumpy Old Guy]

16. It makes my blood boil just to listen to this.

I can't wait until they play it at the trial.

[Historic NY]

17. Rally size....

many of the same people over and over.

[catbyte]

21. That's bitten them in the behind before. I remember in 2012 before the election that

Republicans were so sure that Romney was going to win in a landslide because his rallies seemed larger.

From Forbes article, "Romney Will Win Decisively" published on 11/6/12:

"The enthusiasm factor can be seen in the crowds – Romney is attracting bigger ones than Obama and the upbeat mood at these GOP rallies is palpable. A few months ago a number of GOP voters were tepid towards Romney. They have since become fully committed"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2012/11/06/steve-forbes-romney-will-win-decisively/?sh=4b2be51c2398

There are several other articles that mentioned it, lol.

[malaise]

28. That cracks me up everytime I hear it

[catbyte]

18. Even though the vast majority of comments on Atlanta's 11Alive YouTube channel that aired the call

think he's a sleazy criminal/traitor and a big fat baby, there are comments from cultists who are insisting he either did "nothing wrong" or that the "lamestream media" sliced and diced the call to make Benedict Donald look guilty. Utterly. Fucking, Hopeless. Hell, even 53% of Fox-PAC simps think he should've been indicted.

The nice thing that the folks at 11Alive did when posting the recording of the call was bleep out Ruby Freeman's name, something I wish the NBC recording would've done.

&t=1806s

[malaise]

49. Some great video links here

Thanks

[lambchopp59]

19. Now, you must give TFG credit for this perfect phone call.

If you just ignore all the pesky words said. He held the correct end of the handset to his ear and the other end to that weird puckering mouth thing of his throughout. See, perfect phone call.
Just as suspected. He confabulated and confabulated till.his confabulator was sore.

[Sneederbunk]

25. Led to a perfect indictment.

[bluescribbler]

22. That's not enough.

We need a majority.

[DinahMoeHum]

23. "perfect phone call, you'd be very proud of me" (go to the end)

[malaise]

29. NOT - thanks for this

[Jimvanhise]

26. TRUMP HAS ALREADY LIED ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF THE CALL

On his infamous CNN town hall, Trump claimed that he never asked Georgia to "find votes," only that he "deserved" the votes. He lied about a recording that anyone can find and listen to.

[malaise]

45. Liars need very good memories

Someone should tell Slobby

[txwhitedove]

27. Aarrghh! My BS detector goes off everytime I listen to that

horrible person, so I usually don't and even change the channel. Nothing but an attempt to baffle them with a stream of bullshit.

[dchill]

30. It's not what they conclude, but what they say and do about it.

Republicans have not won any awards lately for exuding honesty.

[BlueIn_W_Pa]

32. "we don't have to go that route" (ie with a formal investigation around facts in GA)

"because we won by such huge margins"

[BlueIn_W_Pa]

35. I LOVE when Brad says to the president of the US

YOU ARE WRONG (19:20)

ballsy

[malaise]

47. Sweet

He is not afraid of the Slobfather. Forget not that the Slobfather threatened him and his wife.

[Playingmantis]

36. He keeps jumping from one charge to the next

Just keeps making one accusation after another..never bothering to really examine any of them...

[BlueIn_W_Pa]

38. she stuffed the ballot box like no one has ever stuffed a ballot box before

21:45

[jaxexpat]

42. I'm sorry, I can't listen to this without multiple pauses.

I'm sure the whole country will have ample opportunity to hear it in total, at least as a sum of excerpts, in the course of reporting his trials over the next year or so.

The country was forced to listen to his voice for much longer than is healthy for its wellbeing while he was squatting in the oval office. The next months and years of testimony will de-normalize his presence in our national psyche. It should. It should make clear, in a way that only trauma can imprint on the mind, just how perverse and unnatural his every personal nuance and presence in history actually is. He is the psychotic excesses of Al Capone, the bombast of Gingrich aspiring to match Mussolini, the pettiness of small popes empowered with the outrage of inquisition, and all of it empowered by 24-7 lies and gullibility. His placement in the limelight of a waning "modern" world echoes the haplessness of a species whose supremacy relies on unregulated fecundity.

[tiredtoo]

44. Used to work with a small time politician

He was like this. Lied so well he actually believed his lies. I called him out a couple times and he just went silent.

[BlueIn_W_Pa]

46. The outright threat by Trump to the GA republican officials, especially Brad

look what you are doing to POTUS, and there will be backlash on you
55:00

[wiggs]

48. What a small, scared, calcified person. nt

[malaise]

51. This one too

Down he goes as well - Cruzing for a bruisin’

[Doc_Technical]

52. "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.

Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue."

Barry Goldwater

[llmart]

53. I don't believe I've ever hated someone so much in my life.

I'm not given to hating anyone, even people who have wronged me many times over, but I just don't think hate is healthy. However, I just can't stop myself from hating this jerk. His face makes me want to vomit and his voice is cringe worthy. I spent the entire four years not watching any news item that had him on it. My mute button and channel changer on the remote is probably ready to die from all of that.

All I want to see is him in an orange jumpsuit, with no makeup and handcuffed and frog marched to his cell. Then I think we can truly start to heal as a country. If he ever is allowed to skate on all of this, I truly believe there would be a civil war and it wouldn't be the magats starting it. It would be all us "good guys". This is OUR democracy and I'll defend it and my right to vote any way necessary.

[Wednesdays]

54. After listening to this, all I have to add to the already voluminous comments...

is that it is completely OBVIOUS that something is up with TFG's nasal passages. Either he had a horrendous sinus infection, or he has been snorting up cocaine or Adderall CHRONICALLY. My money is on the latter.

[malaise]

56. Hi there 😀

Quite possible.