'he ran a secretive in-house intelligence unit for the conservative Koch brothers organization'

[Joinfortmill]

https://joycevance.substack.com/p/mike-roman-placing-obscure-co-defendants?utm_source=substack&utm_medium

'Mike Roman: Placing Obscure Co-Defendants'
JOYCE VANCE

Roman has had an interest in propagating false claims of voter fraud for a long time. He was doing it as far back as the early 1990s...Before becoming an advisor to Trump, he ran a secretive in-house intelligence unit for the conservative Koch brothers organization, making upwards of $250,000.00 a year for his voter suppression work. He worked on the 2016 election, took on a White House role doing special projects that was never well defined, and was back on the campaign staff by 2018. He became Trump’s director of Election Day Operations for 2020. Traditionally that’s the type of position that involves efforts to get out the vote, but in Roman’s case, many people familiar with his work believed he would focus again on undercutting the legitimacy of the election results by pushing fake claims of fraud....One of the allegations in the Georgia indictment is that in late November 2020, Roman was encouraging other campaign officials to contact state legislators in Georgia to urge them to unlawfully appoint Trump electors. Roman even kept a spread sheet with names and contact information for fake electors in it.

Roman told the January 6 committee that his role with the Trump campaign was maintaining contacts with state officials and tracking voting-related legislation before the election...The committee’s report reveals that it was Roman who dispatched a staffer to the Capitol to deliver the fake elector certificate to Congress. Roman took the 5th when he was asked about it...He refused to answer questions about any conversations he might have had with Trump about calls Trump had with state legislators to encourage them to appoint fake slates of electors. He declined to reveal “other options for changing or affecting the results of the 2020 Presidential election” that he and Trump might have discussed. And he refused to tell Congressional investigators whether he discussed the alternate elector plans with Trump before or after the fake slates voted on December 4.

Roman was charged in Georgia with the RICO count all 19 defendants are named in. In addition, Roman was charged with 2 counts of conspiracy to commit forgery, 2 counts of making false statements, conspiracy to impersonate a public officer and a conspiracy to file false documents. That’s a lot of luggage. Roman could be looking at as much as five to 20 years in custody if convicted on the RICO charge alone, which makes you wonder whether the veteran political operative might not be a candidate to cooperated against Trump.'

[Tetrachloride]

1. Some prisons don't have air conditioning, doctors or golf

they do have men with tears in their eyes

[Best_man23]

7. Someone should also tell him in prison, dinner is NOT a thing

There is no pasta course, nor is there a meat or a fish.

What is there is whatever gruel the for-profit company running the prison decides to serve that day. He better hope the food is reasonably somewhere between the stale and culture for penicillin stages.

[soldierant]

27. Well, that does depend on the state.

https://cdoc.colorado.gov/resources/food-and-laundry-service/menus

Yeah, it's an old date, but it hasn't really changed.

But i don't expect Georgia prsons to be anywhere near that. Federal, maybe.

[Best_man23]

42. This is the scene I was thinking of

Think TFG slicing the garlic, Rudy doing the sauce, Meadows is frying the meat in pans, and Eastman or Chesebro fetching the supplies.

I expect GA prisons to be more like the "for-profit" places we read about in Independent journalism stories.

[soldierant]

43. Oh, yeah. I expect Georgia prisons to be

about two steps above Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas prisons, abut like Tennessee and Kentuscky.

BTW how awful a private prion is also depends on the state. Private prisons in COlorado have the same menu as the state-run ones, and are pretty much not allowed to get away with anything. There's even the equivalent of an ombudsman from the DOC in every private prison. That's not something I'd expect to see in Georgia.

The prison he's to be booked is is apparently in terrible shape. I don't suppose even that will open his eyes though.

[CentralMass]

2. He sounds like a real dirtbag

[NJCher]

6. 250,000 to betray

Your fellow citizens?

Not for any amount, ever.

[DBoon]

29. Judas for a better price

[brer cat]

3. Thanks for that informative post.

[Lonestarblue]

4. Trump seemed to find every corrupt person in the Republican Party and bring them into his orbit.

There is no honesty or decency or even loyalty to country to be found anywhere in this party. I hope those indicted by Georgia at least get convicted and get to serve time in the state prison while they ponder the error of their ways. I think the Georgia indictments may be more important than the DOJ indictments because they show how a state can and should hold even people at a county level accountable for criminal actions. That should serve as a real warning to Republican elections officials tempted to mess with the 2024 election.

[calimary]

41. Birds of a feather. Or maybe vultures would be more accurate.

[LakeVermilion]

5. I'm going to take a wild guess...

Mike Roman knows Roger Stone.

[lastlib]

15. Twin sons of different mothers... nt

[Mr. Sparkle]

8. At what stage does the GOP get indicted ?

All these acts come from the top of the party, they are not lone wolves acting out.

[gab13by13]

11. DOJ does not appear interested

in indicting sitting Congressmen.

How long does it take to gat access to Scott Perry's phone? It's been over a year now.

Was the Congressman who gave the Capitol tour to the insurrectionists ever interviewed by the FBI?

[gab13by13]

9. Today, the Republican party is a terrorist organization.

[Bluethroughu]

38. Yes, Eisenhower is rolling over in his grave.

[JHB]

10. I'm sure people here will remember a certain video of his, and how it was hyped on FOX

https://apnews.com/article/mike-roman-trump-poll-watchers-election-e110e6c9e62c9c8520f4a1a2040d8cfc

In the 2008 presidential election, Roman made a splash by promoting a video of two members of the New Black Panther Party standing outside a polling place in Philadelphia, one of them holding a billy club. Though no violence occurred, the video was hyped nationally by those on the right as evidence of Democratic voter intimidation, while those on the left criticized it as an attempt to stoke racial divisions during the election of the nation’s first black president, Barack Obama.

The New Black Panther video raised Roman’s profile within the Republican Party, and he soon landed a job at the Koch network investigating Democrats, environmental activists and others on the left. A 2014 tax return for the Koch-supported Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce Inc. lists Roman’s title as vice president of research, and says he was paid more than $285,000 in annual salary and benefits.

The people who are now MAGAts were convinced the NBPP would be Obama's stormtroopers, posting thug squads in every small town in America, when it was never clear that the NBPP had enough members to fill a school bus.

[gab13by13]

13. One of those 2 standing outside the poll

was a poll watcher.

[Hortensis]

31. Thanks. Seriously, he must be a sociopath. So many of

this sort of RW operatives are not formally diagnosed but believed to be by their actions.

[lindysalsagal]

12. Lovin' me some Joyce.

[gab13by13]

14. So do I, she runs circles around Barbara McQuade.

[Farmer-Rick]

16. This guy was trained by the filthy-rich capitalist little Hitlers the Kochs.

This is capitalism in action. The Filthy-rich using their wealth to crush democracy. When you let people control the economy with their inherited, free, wealth, they try and take over.

The Koch and about 100 other filthy-rich scum of the capitalist swamp have risen up to destroy the very swamp that created them. They literally think they should control all of us because they got some free capital from their dead Nazi father.

Yeah we can prosecute Roman but the Kochs are just going to train and pay off some other swamp creature. To end this cycle, you have to end their power. To end their power, you have to take away their riches.

Roman is going to end up in jail but the Koch Bros are the ones who really need to be in jail. They created Roman.

[Ponietz]

20. The Koch

David Koch expired 4 years ago.

[Farmer-Rick]

21. There were actually 4 Koch sons... Now 3

They fought each other over the left behind capital and corporations of their dead father. In the end, only 2 remained in the business. Not sure what the other two bros do. But I suspect all of them. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

[rubbersole]

23. This ☝️☝️☝️👍

[Bluethroughu]

39. Biden needs to pull a Roosevelt and call in the national guard and

Arrest them, like he did to the Chairman of the Montegomery Ward. I know that was a different circumstance kind of. Both circumstances are to protect Democracy and the country from foreign and domestic, this time, terrorists.

Confiscate their wealth and property for using the proceeds to fund anti-government organizations and groups involved in the January 6th attack.

[Kid Berwyn]

17. A professional vote suppressor.

How Republican.

[Takket]

18. Yeah this is what makes the fake elector scheme so damning

If they had just said “hey everyone. Sign this document that say you are a drumpf elector just in case we get the legislature to vote to appoint you”, and then stuck it in a drawer until the day that happened, it would not have been a crime.

But the moment they pushed ahead with the scheme and tried to pass themselves off as the duly elected electors by showing up at state capitals and demanding that their votes be counted, and putting fake seals on them and sending them to congress and the archives, now it is a crime. And several crimes at that.

[LiberalFighter]

19. Hope he goes to prison and it is miserable for him.

[musclecar6]

22. Yeah

Joyce and Andrew Weissman are the best, along with Ari, Nicolle, and Barbara McQuade etc are all great. Glad we have them on our side fighting the good fight.

[Grins]

24. "Roman took the 5th...He refused to answer questions"

Like any good Republican apparatchik

"He was a fattish but active man of paralysing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms -- one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the Thought Police, the stability of the Party depended." - Orwell

[Hekate]

25. Joyce Vance is such a great resource. TY for posting this here.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

26. Crooks. Dirty Tricksters. Hypocrites & Liars. Have I missed any

of Pissolini's associates?

[Blue Owl]

28. K&R for exposure

[Snackshack]

30. There's

18 candidates for that and everyone of them if they had a sliver of self respect or any of that patriotism they tout would but even now they claim they are right.

[Hortensis]

32. Thank you for this good piece. He's only 50, so it's possible

the rest of what could be his active professional years will be spent in prison. Hope, hope! (Not that we'd provide a "shithole" hell for him; a well-run prison will do.)

Btw, the more people associated with the Kochs go to prison, the closer we potentially get to them, even if David is out of reach of the judicial system. In the past they reportedly sometimes relied more on power than discretion to evade laws they routinely broke, like tRump proud of being "above" accountability.

There are also grown Koch grandchildren working in their operations.

[Hassler]

33. All roads seem to lead from Adolf-loving Charles Koch.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

34. He has cooperated.

Former Trump campaign official cooperating with special counsel in 2020 election interference probe
By Zachary Cohen and Kaitlan Collins, CNN
Updated 10:18 PM EDT, Thu June 29, 2023

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/29/politics/mike-roman-trump-campaign-cooperate-special-counsel-probe/index.html

[czarjak]

35. Birchers.

[BComplex]

36. Can't read the whole thing right now, but this is making me sick.

Koch brothers have done so much to screw up North Carolina, my state, and I hope David Koch is burning in hell.

[Bluethroughu]

37. Let's not forget these haters of Democracy...

Kochs and Crow....among other right wing nut jobs trying to take down our institutions and government by paying others to break the law!

When do they get indicted? They are part of the conspiracy, when they are funding the operation.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

40. They were not "alternate electors."

They were individuals who were breaking the law by fraudulently presenting themselves as bona fide electors.