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RandySF

(84,254 posts)
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 11:05 AM Aug 2023

Yet another group 'protecting' Ohioans springs up to oppose recreational marijuana measure

An initiated statute will appear on November’s ballot in Ohio asking voters whether to legalize recreational marijuana for adults 21 and over. Less than an hour after the organization backing the effort announced it cleared the bar, a group opposing the marijuana measure made its presence known.

And the name might sound familiar.

As with August’s proposal to make it harder to amend Ohio’s constitution and November’s measure for reproductive rights, the organization spearheading the anti-marijuana campaign presents itself as ‘protecting’ Ohioans.

Protect Our Constitution, Protect Our Kids and Protect Women Ohio, meet Protect Ohio Workers and Families. Cincinnati attorney David Langdon had a hand in setting up each one.

There is, of course, nothing illegal or even very unusual about one person having a hand in multiple political organizations. Catherine Turcer from the government watchdog Common Cause Ohio notes it’s not even that unusual.



https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2023/08/18/yet-another-group-protecting-ohioans-springs-up-to-oppose-recreational-marijuana-measure/

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Yet another group 'protecting' Ohioans springs up to oppose recreational marijuana measure (Original Post) RandySF Aug 2023 OP
Can't fight progress... democratsruletheday Aug 2023 #1
Anyone who opposes legalization is in support of drug cartels making money tax free. ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #2
government regulations and high legal prices give the cartels plenty of customers nt msongs Aug 2023 #8
I see you're in favor of drug cartels and their violence ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #11
actually you dont see that at all. cartels benefit because of their ability to undercut the msongs Aug 2023 #15
Prohibition creates black markets. ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #16
so does over pricing your product nt msongs Aug 2023 #17
so unless growers give it away for free you wont be happy with legalization? How about we ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #18
lol change the subject much? my original post is about cartels and pricing. msongs Aug 2023 #19
Not In Illinois ProfessorGAC Aug 2023 #13
It'll still pass, I think, but... Happy Hoosier Aug 2023 #3
It beats the alternative though - questionable cartel pot laced with god knows what Blues Heron Aug 2023 #4
I support it philsophically.... it's just the damned smell I can't stand. NT Happy Hoosier Aug 2023 #5
Legalization can lead to people using edibles instead of smoking at all, or at least cut down Blues Heron Aug 2023 #6
HEAR! HEAR! NT Happy Hoosier Aug 2023 #7
What States? ProfessorGAC Aug 2023 #14
People still smoke in hotel rooms too. Happy Hoosier Aug 2023 #23
That's A Bummer! ProfessorGAC Aug 2023 #24
I suspect I am more sensitive to it than most. Happy Hoosier Aug 2023 #25
I could never go back to smoking, but gummies, yes Maeve Aug 2023 #10
Mine is carbs KentuckyWoman Aug 2023 #21
Beats a two-tiered justice system, where drug convictions are used to persecute people of color ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #12
Needs to be subject to the same rules as smoking. KentuckyWoman Aug 2023 #22
Enjoy NowISeetheLight Aug 2023 #9
If the names were honest KentuckyWoman Aug 2023 #20
What a bunch of dipshits. aocommunalpunch Aug 2023 #26

democratsruletheday

(1,880 posts)
1. Can't fight progress...
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 12:48 PM
Aug 2023

it passed EASILY here in Michigan and most every other state that's had an election on it. Progressives gonna progress I guess you could say. As I recall it passed in Michigan by about 14 pts. or so....57-43 and like I said, every other state it's passed easily as well. Ohio will pass it then I look forward to us winning the abortion vote there this fall too. Like I just said in another thread, the more the Orange turd doesn't get flushed, the more we win. Love it.

msongs

(73,750 posts)
15. actually you dont see that at all. cartels benefit because of their ability to undercut the
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 07:04 PM
Aug 2023

prices of the government sponsored drug industry which is forced to have higher prices due to regulation and excessive taxes. cartels can peddle there junk anywhere. its just a matter of supply and demand.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
18. so unless growers give it away for free you wont be happy with legalization? How about we
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 07:18 PM
Aug 2023

keep people out of jail too?

ProfessorGAC

(76,693 posts)
13. Not In Illinois
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 06:13 PM
Aug 2023

Street price for flower went above dispensary price almost 2 years ago. So, street price plummeted to compete.
Before it was legal, and before we had medical cards, we were paying $270-300 for an ounce. Medical was $350-400
Now, we're paying $140-160. Street price is reportedly down at $120 around here.
Once supply improved to meet demand prices of legal weed fell dramatically.
Not sure the "cartels" are making the kind of money you suggest.

Happy Hoosier

(9,533 posts)
3. It'll still pass, I think, but...
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 12:50 PM
Aug 2023

... I admit I am less supportive of the idea as I go on. The STINK of that stuff is just everywhere in states where it's legal. Even my hotel rooms just reek of the stuff. YUCK!

Blues Heron

(8,834 posts)
4. It beats the alternative though - questionable cartel pot laced with god knows what
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 01:03 PM
Aug 2023

This is just a choice between allowing good quality cannabis vs. allowing only bad, questionable cannabis.

Many people will in fact stop smoking altogether in favor of edibles if good quality gummies etc. are allowed.

Youd be nuts to buy street edibles under prohibition - untested, could even be laced with the dreaded fentanyl. Legalization ends that.

Happy Hoosier

(9,533 posts)
5. I support it philsophically.... it's just the damned smell I can't stand. NT
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 01:12 PM
Aug 2023

Seriously... I don't know how people stand it. It literally makes me queasy...

Not to mention I tend to despise smoking in general.

Maybe legalization will lead to a less stinky variant.

Blues Heron

(8,834 posts)
6. Legalization can lead to people using edibles instead of smoking at all, or at least cut down
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 01:18 PM
Aug 2023

That said, it really is uncool to inflict any smoke on others, definitely agree. Weed for some reason is some of the stinkiest smoke known to mankind. There must be top breeders working on stink-free stealth weed at this point, I would think there would be a huge market for that.

ProfessorGAC

(76,693 posts)
14. What States?
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 06:15 PM
Aug 2023

Pot or anything else, smoking in a hotel room is already illegal in many states.
The hotel owners were good with it, because all smoking creates lingering odors. One less thing for them to pay for.

Happy Hoosier

(9,533 posts)
23. People still smoke in hotel rooms too.
Sat Aug 19, 2023, 06:22 PM
Aug 2023

I’m fairly sensitive to cigarette smoke and I can detect it fairly frequently. The states where it has become far more common to smell in public (my experience only) is Maryland, Michigan, California, and Nevada… though fair dues… I used to be exposed to it in Nevada quite a lot before it is legal.

ProfessorGAC

(76,693 posts)
24. That's A Bummer!
Sat Aug 19, 2023, 06:29 PM
Aug 2023

I stayed in hotels a lot (over 600 business trips) and would not have liked a room that had been smoked in.
And, I smoke cigars! But, never indoors, anywhere, including our house.
I do remember being asked many years ago if i wanted "a smoking or non-smoking room?"
But, not for a long time. Everything was no smoking.
Those states make sense. But, I don't notice it in public here, very much. And, it's been fully legal for over 4 years. Medical pot has been legal over 10 years.
We don't live in a big town though, so maybe it's more prevalent in bigger cities.

Happy Hoosier

(9,533 posts)
25. I suspect I am more sensitive to it than most.
Sat Aug 19, 2023, 06:53 PM
Aug 2023

I complain (I am, after all, a grumpy old guy) but I still favor legalization. IMO, once the novelty wears off, a balance wil be found.

Maeve

(43,456 posts)
10. I could never go back to smoking, but gummies, yes
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 04:41 PM
Aug 2023

Although whiskey is my drug of choice, to be honest.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
12. Beats a two-tiered justice system, where drug convictions are used to persecute people of color
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 06:05 PM
Aug 2023

KentuckyWoman

(7,400 posts)
22. Needs to be subject to the same rules as smoking.
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 07:48 PM
Aug 2023

But yes, they'll stand right outside the doorway of every blessed place just like they do with tobacco. The smell is going to be a lot harder to deal with downwind or walking through the cloud.

aocommunalpunch

(4,581 posts)
26. What a bunch of dipshits.
Sat Aug 19, 2023, 07:38 PM
Aug 2023

Yo, idiots! We are fucking swimming in the shit just over the border for your shopping needs. You, too, can see how society gives a collective shrug when you go legal. Or not. I think I'll pack another bowl of my homegrown. I'll try and remember to "protect" it from the morans.

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