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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 02:50 PM Aug 2023

You can't "Save Democracy with this one weird trick".....

It doesn't matter if lawyers, law professors, constitutional scholars or political pundits say Donald Trump is "automatically" disqualified from running for office under the 14th Amendment. Reality is that no election official is going to kick him off the ballot absent a prosecution and conviction in Court.

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Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
1. but you can repeat it 1000 times a day and let it sink in to public consciousness
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 02:52 PM
Aug 2023

to continually peel away support from Trump--maybe folks at convention will use it as a way to NOT nominate Trump.

 

MutantAndProud

(855 posts)
13. Only hypothetically. Most of them are already locked into channels and silos
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 05:44 PM
Aug 2023

Very few people take the time to try to be truly independent, even if they lean towards one party of set of candidates or news etc.

The levels and degrees of influence throughout the families and societies in the US is staggering.

But again… hypothetically yes.

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
14. we are working at the margins--big issues are, turning undecided independents
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 05:47 PM
Aug 2023

toward Biden and away from Trump, demotivating potential new Trump voters to stay away from the polls.

That can have a huge effect in 6 or 8 key battleground states.

stopdiggin

(15,419 posts)
5. people will decide to vote for Trump (or not)
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 03:17 PM
Aug 2023

based on all the same factors that are in play today - and have been in fact firmly in place with this man all along. The cravenness, the mendacity, the criminality, the cozy relations with dictators ... The idea that they should or would somehow base their choice on some obscure - and never acted upon - theory by constitutional scholars ... That's a stretch.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
7. Unfortunately, the ones who need to to hear & understand it the most will ignore it.
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 04:54 PM
Aug 2023

Because he is more than a candidate to them but rather a persecuted messianic figure. Also, beware the Law of Unintended Consequences because nobody will bring out the vote more on the Left than having Trump as the GOP nominee. Let's be honest...Biden's approval numbers would not be as low as they are if Democrats soundly supported him. The Left may be far more anti-Trump than they are pro-Biden.

stopdiggin

(15,419 posts)
4. Bingo!
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 03:02 PM
Aug 2023

a) it won't happen - and b) if by some wild whimsy it did happen - it quite likely would be regarded as some species of chicanery and 'backroom maneuvering' - by far to many voters.

Time to move on.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,110 posts)
6. Reality is funny that way
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 03:33 PM
Aug 2023

Reality, like the honey badger, doesn’t GAF about theories and hypotheticals.

mitch96

(15,797 posts)
9. So what would happen if ONE large state did not put him on the ballot, no popular votes for him
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 05:16 PM
Aug 2023

from that state and no electoral college votes for him.
Could tfg loose on that alone?
just thinking out loud..
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TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
11. The people pushing this stuff aren't doing us any favors.
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 05:28 PM
Aug 2023

All it does is give people false hope and unrealistic expectations. It's basically our version of clickbait, and it's tiresome.

milestogo

(23,060 posts)
12. They aren't "pushing this stuff"
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 05:37 PM
Aug 2023

They are Constitutional experts interpreting Constitutional Law.

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
15. I disagree. It is great for trolling Trump's cult as well
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 05:48 PM
Aug 2023

because most of them are paranoid anyway

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