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bigtree

(94,264 posts)
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 03:58 PM Aug 2023

"Good Morning, Mr. Moran. Your client (Meadows) is no different than any other criminal defendant."

Zach Schonfeld @ZachASchonfeld
Mark Meadows, Trump's WH COS, is trying to block his arrest until his removal issue is resolved. His attorneys attached an email from DA Fani Willis in which she declined to extend her Friday surrender deadline (Meadows' removal hearing is on Monday)

Anna Bower @AnnaBower · 44m
NEW: the legal team for Mark Meadows seeks emergency relief from federal judge to “protect Mr. Meadows from arrest” by Fulton County law enforcement.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.319225/gov.uscourts.gand.319225.17.0.pdf


emptywheel @emptywheel 29m
Fani Willis to Mark Meadows' lawyers: "Your client is no different than any other criminal defendant in this jurisdiction."




twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1694071173754024026

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"Good Morning, Mr. Moran. Your client (Meadows) is no different than any other criminal defendant." (Original Post) bigtree Aug 2023 OP
Is this legit? cilla4progress Aug 2023 #1
Meadow's attorney bigtree Aug 2023 #4
Bring back memories? piddyprints Aug 2023 #8
I know cilla4progress Aug 2023 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author cilla4progress Aug 2023 #16
i don't even have to look. barbtries Aug 2023 #25
Get a brain... piddyprints Aug 2023 #27
100% barbtries Aug 2023 #33
Yeah, I have to at least question the reality of her supposed reply Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2023 #11
it was provided by Meadows' legal team in their petition to a federal judge to delay his arrest. bigtree Aug 2023 #12
Sweet! Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2023 #14
Good for her SCantiGOP Aug 2023 #2
I'm sure he rushed to do Trump's bidding all the time. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #3
I understand Traildogbob Aug 2023 #23
The concept of public service has no meaning to the GOP. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #24
to the rancid gop sdfernando Aug 2023 #31
Yes the GOP are grifters, a criminal enterprise. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #34
Just borrow that gaudy 757 your boss has. ret5hd Aug 2023 #6
FAFO Meadows Botany Aug 2023 #5
Seriously?? That's his name??? "Moran" bamagal62 Aug 2023 #7
It is a good Irish name obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #18
It is also a good Irish name TheRickles Aug 2023 #21
I was thinking of bamagal62 Aug 2023 #29
Two Trump-linked attorneys -- Alex Kaufman and Kurt Hilbert -- have been subpoenaed to appear LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #9
I guess he didn't get a brain... sakabatou Aug 2023 #10
+1 FSogol Aug 2023 #13
Supply chain issues, most likely. Bongo Prophet Aug 2023 #20
That's what I was referring to! bamagal62 Aug 2023 #28
change the a in his name to an o and it describes trump and his buddies..... moonshinegnomie Aug 2023 #17
Meadow' attorneys are digging a deeper and deeper hole LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #19
is it weird that this warms my heart and makes me smile? ecstatic Aug 2023 #22
It's just the warm rush of schadenfreude! dchill Aug 2023 #32
dumb question - cab67 Aug 2023 #26
Removal... appmanga Aug 2023 #38
He can try that federal duties nonsense every day and twice on Sundays. ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #45
not dumb bigtree Aug 2023 #42
thanks! cab67 Aug 2023 #44
How is this NOT a no-brainer? dchill Aug 2023 #30
Way to go DA Fani Willis. iluvtennis Aug 2023 #35
NO PROTECTION when COMMITTING a CRIME... dawg! nt TeamProg Aug 2023 #36
Meadows has filed new motion demanding immediate removal to Federal Court or stay from arrest LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #37
arrogant is the right word bigtree Aug 2023 #43
Poor Meadows is deep in the FINDING OUT phase. Loving it. emulatorloo Aug 2023 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Aug 2023 #40
Did the judge rule on the motion? Or, is this just Willis' response. 33taw Aug 2023 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Aug 2023 #46
federal Judge Jones gave Fani Willis until 3 tomorrow to reply to Meadows' emergency appeal bigtree Aug 2023 #47

Response to piddyprints (Reply #8)

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. Yeah, I have to at least question the reality of her supposed reply
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 04:11 PM
Aug 2023

Cause it looks like parody.

bigtree

(94,264 posts)
12. it was provided by Meadows' legal team in their petition to a federal judge to delay his arrest.
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 04:14 PM
Aug 2023

SCantiGOP

(14,719 posts)
2. Good for her
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 04:01 PM
Aug 2023

His excuse was that it would cause him to make “rushed” airline reservations.
Like many people in business have to do on a regular basis.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
3. I'm sure he rushed to do Trump's bidding all the time.
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 04:03 PM
Aug 2023

But now he needs to do things at his leisure.
He still thinks he is someone important.

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
23. I understand
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 05:14 PM
Aug 2023

That Meadow’s RUSHED outta DC, faster than Hawley did the Capital, late on the 6th. Fuck you Meadow’s get to moving right Fuckin now. Way past time to end this privileged shit for assholes supposedly working for us, definitely getting paid by us, with ridiculous benefits. Smug damned prick.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
24. The concept of public service has no meaning to the GOP.
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 05:21 PM
Aug 2023

The idea that they work for the American people is totally foreign to them.

My dad was career military and he always said that he didn't work for the Air Force,
he worked for the American people.

That always made a big impression on me as a child.

So a child could understand what public service is, but the GOP cannot.

sdfernando

(6,084 posts)
31. to the rancid gop
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 05:56 PM
Aug 2023

the idea of public service is that the public is there to service them.

bamagal62

(4,504 posts)
7. Seriously?? That's his name??? "Moran"
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 04:08 PM
Aug 2023

That's just too MAGA perfect. It's a "perfect attorney name".

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
22. is it weird that this warms my heart and makes me smile?
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 05:12 PM
Aug 2023

I feel so... satisfied after reading this. Is something wrong with me? lol

appmanga

(1,493 posts)
38. Removal...
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 06:35 PM
Aug 2023

...gets his case heard in federal court based on the fact he was performing official duties as a federal official during the time of the indicted behavior. He would still be tried by the state, under that state's laws. The biggest thing this will do is expand the jury pool from just Fulton County to the Northern District of Georgia.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
45. He can try that federal duties nonsense every day and twice on Sundays.
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 10:04 PM
Aug 2023

That does bugger all to change the fact that insurrection and election fraud weren't among his federal duties. Which means he needs to get his arse to Atlanta.

QEbloodyD

bigtree

(94,264 posts)
42. not dumb
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 06:46 PM
Aug 2023

...Meadows is petitioning a federal judge to have his case removed from Ga. state court to federal court.

He has a hearing on removal from the state case in Ga. District Court scheduled for Monday, August 28, 2023, at 10:00 A.M.

He's asking the Ga. District Court to 'remove' him from the State RICO case because of harm he claims he'd incur WHEN, he says (not if) a federal judge would grant him the immunity he's seeking from arrest that he says 'federal law affords former federal officials."

He's arrogantly telling the court here that it would be more 'efficient' for them to grant him removal from the case now, and avoid his arrest which he's optimistically claiming will be repudiated sometime in the future by the federal judge he's appealing to.

His lawyers go on a bit about their superior knowledge of Ga. law and their psychic abilities to predict the federal ruling.

Bottom line, Fani wants his ass by Friday, and this is an emergency appeal to the Court to grant immediate removal to prevent what he calls the harm his arrest will cause which he actually describes as more of an inconvienience for the court.

here: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.319225/gov.uscourts.gand.319225.17.0.pdf

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
37. Meadows has filed new motion demanding immediate removal to Federal Court or stay from arrest
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 06:17 PM
Aug 2023

This motion is very arrogant. Meadows filed to remove to federal court. That statute provides that the state criminal proceeding continues until the case is formerly removed. The federal court ruled earlier that Meadows’ motion is sufficient to avoid an immediate dismissal and set a hearing for Monday of next week

Meadows’ motion simply assumes that Meadows is entitled to immediate removal to federal court or a stay. I hope the judge rejects this motion



Here is a link to the filing
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.319225/gov.uscourts.gand.319225.17.0.pdf
This part of the motion is really concerning
The Federal Officer Removal Statute by default removes to federal court the entire
case, not just the charges against Mr. Meadows—whether or not other defendants
wish to remove or have a legal basis to do so. See Heinze, 637 F. Supp. 3d at 1325
n.8 (“‘It is well settled that if one claim cognizable under Section 1442 is present,
the entire action is removed, regardless of the relationship between the Section 1442
claim and the non-removable claims.’”) (quoting Nadler v. Mann, 951 F.2d 301, 306
n.9 (11th Cir. 1992)). Mr. Meadows, of course, had no control over how the case
was presented to the grand jury and seeks removal only on his own behalf. A district court
court may remand proceedings against remaining defendants after dismissing
charges against federal officials, see Spencer v. New Orleans Levee Bd., 737 F.2d
435, 438 (5th Cir. 1984), and at least one has severed a case after permitting removal
and then remanded the non-removable portion to state court, see Joyner v. A.C. & R.
Insulation Co., No. CIV. CCB-12-2294, 2013 WL 877125, at *9-10 (D. Md. Mar.
7, 2013). But however the Court should proceed, Mr. Meadows has an “absolute”
right to have the charges against him heard in federal court, Willingham, 395 U.S. at
406, and the Federal Officer Removal Statute calls for prompt consideration of his
Notice

Meadows is swinging for the fences and I hope that the judge tells Meadows to shut up and get arraigned.

bigtree

(94,264 posts)
43. arrogant is the right word
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 06:49 PM
Aug 2023

...his legal team is talking down to Ga. officials here, telling them they'll be sorry when big daddy fed judge comes and rescues him.

Response to bigtree (Original post)

Response to 33taw (Reply #41)

bigtree

(94,264 posts)
47. federal Judge Jones gave Fani Willis until 3 tomorrow to reply to Meadows' emergency appeal
Tue Aug 22, 2023, 11:03 PM
Aug 2023

...U.S. District Judge Steve C. Jones (Northern District of Georgia) will decide this a little over 40 hrs. before Meadows is due to be arrested.

__Lawrence O'Donnell

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