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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPrighozin falls out of a window at 40,000 feet.
Developing story
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/aug/23/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-drones-downed-moscow
wnylib
(26,009 posts)So which story is correct?
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)He could've filmed his video in Africa then hopped his private jet to head back to Moscow.
erronis
(23,874 posts)Hope he held his breath.
Ray Bruns
(6,362 posts)ouija
(465 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)herding cats
(20,049 posts)They're both valuable to Putin and dangerous.
Nevilledog
(55,079 posts)herding cats
(20,049 posts)Nothing but the best for Putin's favorite merc leader.
WarGamer
(18,613 posts)Rumors are, shot down by Tver vicinity anti aircraft weapons... Russian SAMS.
Fair enough! One little coup attempt and they fell out of sorts with each other.
Some people are just sensitive like that.
WarGamer
(18,613 posts)Johnny2X2X
(24,207 posts)But if it was shot down, the chances he was on it are much better.
Proghozin is definitely the type of guy with a kill swtich. Putin is about to go through some things if he did indeed kill him.
Recycle_Guru
(2,973 posts)if he suspected his days were numbered he could fuck Putin up pretty bad posthumously
erronis
(23,874 posts)And it seems that he has already been taking them out.
Nothing smells as good as russian plutocrats killing each other in the morning....
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)Different countries investigative arms will want to know what happened to it. If it was shot down or blown up some other way it will come out eventually. So Putin would be sure that he was on that plane if he did it.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)I turned on my iPad and the BBC headline about the plane accident scrolled by immediately I came to DU, saw yours was the first post on the subject, and the damn internet connection went fratz. This is Spectrums doing. Every day at about 10:00.
Never mind, at least we werent in an airplane when its electronics cut out.
Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)They don't always die from some plot hatched by their superiors.
Sometimes, as the need arises, they fake their deaths to get out of complex situations.
erronis
(23,874 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(11,389 posts)Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)Hell must be frozen over solid.
Nevilledog
(55,079 posts)
vSympthsical
(10,969 posts)He wouldn't have been on the plane but baited Russian intelligence to believe so.
Then, after confirmation they're trying to kill him, he goes after Putin.
Still, wonder what Wagner group will do if he's been killed. Might be interesting.
Not the first time that Russia has declared him dead.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218210018
Best_man23
(5,268 posts)Maybe it ventured over Ukrainian airspace? We all know how virulent SRDS can become once anything Russian enters Ukraine.
My condolences to the airplane's family.
jeffreyi
(2,571 posts)On the other hand, things are often not what they seem.
NowISeetheLight
(4,002 posts)Better than Pulonium poisioning and a lot quicker.
DickKessler
(408 posts)Rest in piss.
erronis
(23,874 posts)BradBo
(1,012 posts)I bet he never went more than 2 stories high in a building too.
CaptainTruth
(8,200 posts)If he's gone, I can't say I'm sad about it.
rubbersole
(11,223 posts)James48
(5,214 posts)By the way- there is some report now floating about 8 bodies found.
I can tell you, as a 40-year pilot, and someone involved in aircraft crash investigation (civil) and intel (military) for many years, two things stick out.
1. There is a photo video if a plane crashing towards earth. If that is the plane, there likely will NOT be eight bodies. The impact would be with such force that there MAY be body parts, but not bodies.
More likely they would find a shoe with a partial foot in it, and not much else. The impact would have caused obliteration.
2. Always always always be skeptical of early reports, because it takes a while to gather facts.
Im watching, but the video I saw if the crashing airplane IS consistent with a shoot down rather than a simple engine failure. The amount and location of trailing smoke does NOT rule out being shot down. We will have to wait and see. Of course, the Russians would never tell us if it was shot down anyway.
llashram
(6,269 posts)3Hotdogs
(15,368 posts)The pilot made the mistake of being in the wrong plane.