Just had a thought about Ramaswamy.

[LuckyCharms]

He seems to be the topic of the day.

That means, he captured quite a bit of attention last night.

Also, he's a hideous fucking asshole. Truly.

He kind of came out of nowhere.

Many of us here have said that when trump is finally gone, there will be be someone else just like him to replace him.

Be wary of Ramaswamy.

[bucolic_frolic]

1. He is Jindal meets moment. /nt

[TheBlackAdder]

32. He's like my Indian neighbor down the road who gets his info from Indian, Chinese & Russian press.

.

Putin is the greatest leader.
Ukraine started everything.
Russia is one of the wealthiest countries with the largest gold reserve.
The Russian economy is extremely strong, while the US economy will fail in the next decade.

and a whole bunch of other shit.

.

[Walleye]

2. Russia fields a candidate for the Republican nomination, Vivek

He sides with Russia, when somebody tells you who they are, believe them

[dalton99a]

6. +1. Ramaswamy is an abject stooge of Russia

[Botany]

11. He is without a doubt a "chaos agent" just like Trump & Tony DeVolder (Santos)

Putin knows Trump is sunk so he might be backing a new "chaos agent." Lets see if he
is getting any Russian money such as from Oleg Deripaska and or backing of Russia's
keyboard warriors.

But we can have fun w/him.

Ramaswammy = Rama Lama Ding Dong = Rama Swama Ding Dong

[Rebl2]

24. Yep

Just like tfg

[Celerity]

40. and his 'pull ALL funding to Ukraine' ranting was the choice for best talking point by every single

Rethug in the 4 post debate focus groups I have seen.

Universal support from around 40 or so people.

Putin owns their brains.

[2naSalit]

3. He had that...

Magat sense of arrogance. I only saw a few tiny clips of him and everything he said and his body language screamed dictator in waiting.

[Solomon]

4. He's an annoying know it all.

[jcgoldie]

5. except that...

Everything he knows seems to be wrong.

[Shipwack]

18. Unfortunately, that doesn't matter.

A lot of people would rather have someone confidently wrong, than someone who is right but projects uncertainty.

“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.” —Charles Bukowski.

[Deminpenn]

7. The personification of social media algorithms

or perhaps the old shock jock entertainment model of non-stop talk designed to produce outrage.

[dalton99a]

8. Yeah, we need another cruel sadistic monster with zero government experience to rule over us

Ramaswamy worked at the hedge fund QVT Financial from 2007 to 2014.[3][29][30][31] He was a partner and co-managed the firm's biotech portfolio.[29][30][28] QVT's biotech investments under Ramaswamy included stakes in Palatin Technologies,[28][32] Concert Pharmaceuticals,[28] Pharmasset,[33][34] and Martin Shkreli's Retrophin.[35] In a 2023 speech and in his book Woke Inc., Ramaswamy called Shkreli both "brilliant" and a pathological liar, but criticized the U.S. Department of Justice for prosecuting him, calling Shkreli's fraud a victimless crime.[35]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivek_Ramaswamy

In September 2015, Shkreli was widely criticized when Turing obtained the manufacturing license for the antiparasitic drug Daraprim and raised its price by 5,455% (from US$13.50 to $750 per pill).

In 2017, Shkreli was charged and convicted in federal court on two counts of securities fraud and one count of conspiracy for activity unrelated to the Daraprim controversy. He was sentenced to seven years in prison and up to $7.4 million in fines. In the civil case he was fined a further $64.6 million to be repaid to victims. On May 18, 2022, Shkreli was released early from the low-security federal prison in Allenwood, Pennsylvania.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Shkreli

[SomedayKindaLove]

9. I don't watch Republican debates or conventions

Out of my belief that they cause cancer.

Did Ramaswamy break out his Enimem “Lose Yourself” upon introduction?

[everyonematters]

10. He reminds me of Sara Palin.

The words came out of his mouth like a parrot. It was all memorized. He is really impressed with himself. No intellect.

[Celerity]

41. Unfortunately he is vastly more intelligent and cunning than Palin.

[PatSeg]

12. Yes, there will be a whole lot of Trump wannabes

for years to come. He showed a bunch of grifters what is possible and the competition to take his place will dominate republican politics for a very long time. I see many reruns on the horizon.

[C_U_L8R]

13. Ramaswarmy has that tech bro stink

Toxic wanking to Ayn Rand. Arrogant of his own selfishness and stupidity.

[patphil]

14. I agree with your assessment of Ramaswamy.

Just one more in a long line of hideous fucking Republican assholes.

[Hortensis]

15. He projects most strongly the aggressively extremist authoritarian "strongman" that

The Defendant's aggressively extremist authoritarian base want. They chose and elevated him, and he in turn made them his own passionately loyal followers, but they know it's possible that in future he'll no longer be a strongman.

Not saying they wouldn't conceivably choose Ramaswamy, but I'm wondering if his biggest effect might be to show a path to copy by some of the the floppy candidates who've been trying to safely play both sides, who'd save or overthrow democracy as the cards fell for them.

In particular, I'm wondering if he could actually help strengthen non-floppy, authoritarian DeSantis, who's of course currently floundering. An expert on authoritarian takeovers believes both DeSantis and Ramaswamy would pose grave threats to democracy. DeSantis shows "monster dictator" potential, but his image as a strongman is currently seriously damaged by pudding and white go-go boots.

[whopis01]

16. Ramaswamy is a bit scary - mainly for the reasons you iterated

But he isn't quite just like Trump.

He is better spoken, more energetic, and sounds far more coherent.

I say "sounds" because the underlying message and logic is just as twisted as Trump, but it is packaged in a far better way.

He is like Trump, but with a better presentation. Which means that some of the people turned off by Trump may not be as turned off by Ramaswamy.

I don't think he is going to be a particular threat this time around. But I think the same people who wanted Trump in place so that they could use him as a puppet and get what they want are not going away. And they will learn and improve because they are far smarter than Trump. Ramaswamy is just one of the first in a long line of Trump replacements to come our way.

[BlueIn_W_Pa]

20. He even dressed like Trump

[Cosmocat]

27. It's still Trump for sure

But, for the reasons you note, if something happens w him, I would put a lot of $ this guy as their new leader.

[onetexan]

17. I believe he's a buffoon planted by the Con, same way Kanye was

Someone shameless & willing to do his bidding.

[Historic NY]

19. "Smarmy Ramaswamy"

[radical noodle]

21. I have a friend who is normally sensible

who nonetheless became an early devotee of trump because she's gullible, likes domineering men, and is a poor judge of character. Her new "love" is Vivek, and has been since last year (before I'd ever heard of him). I take him seriously because of that. That base seems to be enamored of manipulative con men.

[Cosmocat]

26. Yep

nm

[tenderfoot]

22. Dharmadouche

eom

[bullimiami]

23. rama-swarmy. finalist in the phony-creep championship with desantis.

[Cosmocat]

25. AGREED

He's a MAJOR threat.

I never bought the DeSantis hype. Yes, he us a truly hateful person, which is why a lot of them liked him initially.

But, he didn't have the personality, and isn't alpha.

This guy is the smarmy, fast talking con artist they really get off on now.

[TeamProg]

28. He sounds like a mentally ill person. nt

[Blue Owl]

29. The GOP's latest Swamp-a-rama creature feature

[FalloutShelter]

31. Ramaswampy!

Yes... that's the ticket.

[Qutzupalotl]

30. More like RamaSMARMY

[LAS14]

37. I KNEW there was an infantile play on his name lurking around in my mind. Since he's...

...reduced politics to kindergarten level discourse, I don't know why I can't do the same.

[Qutzupalotl]

39. Because you're better than that

right?

[Farmer-Rick]

33. I wonder how the GQP evangelical Nazis will accept this guy

The Nazis are a big voting block for the GQP. The Christian evangelicals have a lot of Nazis in their group and the religious idiots are also a big voting block for Republicons.

He's not a Christian or an identifiable Nazi white person. He does have the male thing going for him and he was born into wealth. And the GQP does love their filthy-rich males.

He's Smarter than Trump because he seems to have graduated from both Harvard and Yale like most filthy-rich people with half a brain.

Despite what he says, he's never going to win over Christian evangelicals or Nazi racists. The GQP is never going to win without those voting blocks.

Sooooo, I suspect someone is paying him to run so it looks like the GQP are inclusive. It maybe Russia behind him.

[oldsoftie]

34. He's running for VP; every comment is for Dear Leader

[SCantiGOP]

35. "Dig, frack, burn coal"

And raise the voting age to 25.
Yeah, he’ll do really well with the young voters.

[LAS14]

36. Egomania seems to be the name of the game these days. At least on the right. nt

[Marcuse]

38. Someone wrote, "Imagine the same language and speech pattern in brownface and a full wig."

[andym]

42. Will be a test for conservatives: whether their love for a Trump-like con man can overcome racism

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Ramaswamy is a non-white Hindu. How many conservatives will never vote for him because of that? OTOH, he is certainly arrogant, successful in business, ill-informed and very sure of himself, all features they love in Trump.

[bedazzled]

43. He can start his own political movement

The mean, rude, smarmy and self absorbed young person party.

[moondust]

44. Harvard (BA): summa cum laude

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Phi Beta Kappa

Yale (JD)

...he said in 2023 that he had a net worth of around $15 million before graduating from law school.
~
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivek_Ramaswamy

ETA: He believes the FBI should be abolished. Sounds like another GQP crook.

[OneGrassRoot]

45. I just checked to see...

what a few MAGA family members are saying on social media. I don’t interact with them online or off but check periodically to get a gauge of both the white nationalist vote and highly educated, so-called Reagan Republican vote.

The white nationalists never veered away from MAGA, of course.

The second batch preferred DeSantis and said Trump should go away now. But that was before he started campaigning. They see he is a horrible national candidate all the way around.

So they are back to Trump first and Vivek second.

The cruelty is the point.

[OneGrassRoot]

46. Clarification:

They went back to Trump not only because DeSantis sucks but BECAUSE of the indictments.

[Mr.Bill]

47. Our best case scenario is

he wins no or few primaries, Trump wins the nomination, then Ramaswamy runs as an independent, splitting the vote.

[Bluesaph]

48. I think he's good looking until he opens his mouth

Gets uglier and uglier by the second.

[progressoid]

49. Yeah, if he were white and a Christian, he would give Trump a run for his money.