The media is creating Ramaswamy before our eyes - we're stuck with him from here on in.

[tenderfoot]

They did the same thing with Trump back in the 1980s. Shoved him toward us and let him stay. No matter how smug, how rude, how many failures, how awful he was. They would not STFU about him.

From the NY Times:

"How Vivek Ramaswamy Broke Through: Big Swings With a Smile
With unchecked confidence and insults, the biotech entrepreneur baited his rivals into skirmishes that dominated Republicans first debate."

That is how we got Trump.

[msongs]

1. young-ish, cute-ish, big smile...like a game show hosts but more smarmy and very glib he would

be a huge contrast to joe biden for getting the youth vote

[madaboutharry]

3. Are you kidding?

He wants to raise the voting age to 25 years old.

All he will get from the youth vote is the middle finger.

[Blues Heron]

6. I think the youth are more perceptive than you give them credit for

not everybody is hoodwinked by 1000 watt tooth treatments

[karynnj]

10. Umm, didn't they try that with Dr Oz?

[msongs]

12. maybe except the youngish cute-ish part

[OMGWTF]

30. Oz will always be that quack who thinks guacamole and salsa go with crudites.

[BlueIn_W_Pa]

47. Happily, we voted him out here in PA :)

[Cha]

16. That's your takeaway? Young People Are

Smarter than voting for Swarmy.

[msongs]

18. for some, yes. let's call it the kennedy effect nt

[AdamGG]

65. I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine...

and he's NO Jack Kennedy.

[reACTIONary]

67. +10 nt

[treestar]

31. youth will not vote for him with his positions on the issues

this is as wrong as McClain thinking Palin would get him women's votes.

[SCantiGOP]

37. Right

His “dig, frack and burn coal” and “climate
change is a hoax” statements will immediately alienate 2/3 of the young vote.

[Sky Jewels]

56. No. The young like progressive positions like abortion rights, gun control,

climate change action, fair wages, etc. They like authenticity. That's why they like Bernie, who is quite old.

They'll see through this motherfucker right away.

[Blue Owl]

2. Gag...

[malthaussen]

4. But, seriously, are the MAGAts gonna vote for someone named Ramaswamy?

This is not the UK, where half the politicians are Asians.

-- Mal

[leftstreet]

14. But that just makes him more OuTsiDeR-y !!

good question though

[Steven Maurer]

60. Yeah, no. "Outsider" is GOP-eese for "unapologetic bigot"

...and you don't get to be in that club unless you're a white male pretend-"Christian".

It doesn't matter what you say. It only matters what your last name is and skin color.

[budkin]

28. Yeah, NO WAY

They are too racist at the core to ever allow it.

[treestar]

32. this is what they do to claim they are not racists

They nominated the first woman to the SCOTUS, and Thomas.

Though the Presidency to them is very sacred - a potential dictator as they see him - so maybe not.

[Cosmocat]

54. Correct

Nm

[uponit7771]

70. +1

[ShazzieB]

53. Especially someone with brown skin!

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Haley can "pass," with her lighter complexion and American (thanks to marriage) surname, but Ramaswamy's looks and name make it impossible to ignore his south Asian heritage. You would think that those factors, along with his third strike of not even pretending to be any brand of Christian, would be major stumbling blocks for GOP voters.

However, as 45 showed us, sometimes there's no accounting for the voting choices of Republicans. Maybe Ramaswamy can make up for his "deficiencies" with pure meanness, (Hey, it worked for Trump! )

[TheBlackAdder]

78. Wait! MAGAts freak out about Yoga, yet they'd elect someone who is Hindi?

[LiberaBlueDem]

5. So, like con45, he is a hoax

But the media loves doing blow jobs, so let them blow. He won't get 35% of the general votes.

[calimary]

62. Welcome to DU, LiberalBlueDem!

The media gets dazzled. Or more accurately, LETS ITSELF get dazzled.

[John1956PA]

7. Nixon referred to situations like this as "media steroids."

Nixon said that a political newcomer comes along, gets "media steroids" and then becomes a household name.

[UTUSN]

8. Yip, a watered down Drumpf

[karynnj]

9. They pushed DeSantis for months and after rising he has been imploding

I get the comparison to Trump, but I don't see Ramaswary.as the biggest threat to us. In fact, if he becomes a dominant number 2, it likely makes Trump even more likely.

[Cha]

23. Yea, the Manipulating media..

pushing deSadist.. what could go wrong

More People found out there's no there there. Just a crummy little Mussolini wanna with sub zero personality.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Kingofalldems]

11. Too dark skinned for MAGAts.

[EarnestPutz]

34. In the approximate "Obama" range of light brown and therefore wholely unacceptable.

[Ritabert]

13. Over on Twitter they alternate calling him

...Ramascammy and Ramasmarmy.

[lindysalsagal]

15. As long as the new angry gqp clown holds no power, let him

Entertain the brainless masses.

[11 Bravo]

17. That smarmy little fuck makes Martin Shkreli appear downright likeable!

[progressoid]

19. "How Vivek Ramaswamy helped make Martin Shkreli the 'pharma bro' "

Vivek Ramaswamy, the Republican presidential candidate who made a fortune in biotech, once was involved in a significant investment in a biotech company run by disgraced investor Martin Shkreli.

...

Ramaswamy wrote in “Woke Inc.” that when he first met Shkreli, he found him “brilliant” and that he was “a little envious.” Ramaswamy also criticized prosecutors who went after him, saying that the case was “murky.”

“What was Martin Shkreli really guilty of?” Ramaswamy wrote. “Why did the DOJ go after him so hard, when it lets others quietly get away with much worse? … [W]hom did Shkreli hurt? The people he was convicted for defrauding all ended up richer. The people who used Daraprim didn’t pay more for it; the cost was split up across the whole health insurance system.”

But Ramaswamy didn’t let Shkreli off the hook, either. In an interview, he condemned what Shkreli did in hiking the cost of his old company’s drug and said it was “wrong and hurtful.”

Ramaswamy also criticized Shkreli in the book by saying “he was literally incapable of distinguishing fact from fiction” and even falsely told him that he had attended Columbia University but dropped out to go to Baruch College instead. Ramaswamy called Columbia’s admissions office to check that claim and they told him he hadn’t been admitted.


https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/23/vivek-ramaswamy-martin-shkreli-pharma-00098338

[LeftinOH]

20. In the spirit of fairness - shouldn't he have to show his birth certificate?

And "birth certificate" means the original long-form state issued birth certificate with a raised seal, with two doctor signatures on it, verified as authentic by the State of Ohio, and original birth announcements from least two local newspapers. And I also heard he's "Brahmin," which is basically some kind of Muslim.

*This is sarcasm*

..but I'd love to see GOP twist themselves into a knot fighting off the same nonsense they used against Obama.

[progressoid]

21. His ideas are a threat, but he won't get very far.

As I said elsewhere, if he were White and a Christian, he'd give Trump a run for his money. As it is, I don't think most GOP voters will be able to get past the Hindu thing.

[treestar]

36. TFG claims to be Christian

and they fell for it. Maybe he can "convert" - they'd love that.

It is ironic how right wing family values can be espoused by brown people and the MAGATs don't realize that.

[Sky Jewels]

22. I don't know about that...

Trump built his putrid “brand” over decades. The media can’t just declare someone the front runner and make it so by giving them a lot of publicity. They gave Trump billions in attention, but he was already well known.

(Plus, as others have said, he’s male but not pale and he doesn’t believe in Jeeeesus.)

[senseandsensibility]

24. I hear ya, and by not concentrating on

his extremely unpopular ideas, they are doing him a big favor. Enough with the looks and the personality (whether good or bad). What matters is his policies and they are putrid even by repug standards. The media is dancing around that.

[Mad_Machine76]

25. And like Sarah Palin

Thought we’d never see the end of her.

[AdamGG]

68. Except she was kind of the gateway psycho

That showed the lane that was available for Dump.

[Mad_Machine76]

69. Very much so

[AdamGG]

74. It's been documented...

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/a-serial-liar-how-sarah-palin-ushered-in-the-post-truth-political-era-in-which-trump-has-thrived/

[Mad_Machine76]

81. And like a bad penny

she's just turned up again, threatening civil war.

[GoodRaisin]

26. This guy could be really bad news if Trump goes down.

His views are anti-social change, anti-climate change and my guess is the magats are likely to swarm to him next if/when they accept that Trump won’t come back.

Meet him here in this interview.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/05/10/vivek-ramaswamy-breaks-down-esg-alternative-fund-strive-backed-by-thiel-ackman.html

[ancianita]

52. +1

Agree with this read on him.

[jcgoldie]

27. he got massive airtime last night thanks to fox news debate rules

Every time someone says your name you get 30 seconds to piss someone else off so they will respond and give you another turn.

[Mr.Bill]

29. He wrote a book called Woke, Inc?

That one needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

[WarGamer]

35. The polling is out...

Read one last week. Ramaswamy does well with college degree suburban Republicans.

[Elessar Zappa]

45. I'm not sure he'll do well

with the all important white working class evangelical vote. Unless, of course, he converts to Christianity.

[WarGamer]

50. Atypical GOP'er... Hindu vegetarian Animal Rights activist.

[tenderfoot]

66. A Tamil-Brahmin. The most OBNOXIOUS/SMUGGEST Caste in Hinduism.

You seem impressed by him.

[WarGamer]

80. well...

Non-Christian, cool...

I was at a Hindu Temple last Sunday.

Vegetarian? Awesome...

Animal rights activist... incredible.


And YEAH, his politics are REPULSIVE.

[GoodRaisin]

77. Well, they readily accepted fake Christianity from Inmate No. P01135809.

[onetexan]

38. Tune Ramaswampy out. He's a trump toadie.

[C Moon]

39. Must be the backup on putin's payroll.

[womanofthehills]

40. Actually - he's becoming well known because he's on mega podcasts & was on Tucker

I recently read he has been on over 70 podcasts and podcast viewership is climbing as cable is declining. His interview on Tucker got 44.5 million views ( or impressions) and around 40 mill views on Rogan. He is basically all over the web like Robert Kennedy Jr. Both of them also have their own podcasts too.

With so many young Americans on Twitter, the Dems need to put someone out there to counteract
Tucker. Rachael would be great.

What is worrisome is that Tucker’s interview with Trump is now the most watched interview of all time with 237 million views. Tucker has let it be known in the past, he didn’t like Trump but I’m sure he wanted to stick it to Fox with this interview.

The Dems need to get a big personality on Twitter to do interviews. Over 80 million Americans are on Twitter - most under 45 yrs old

[LymphocyteLover]

44. Yes, he's had a very purposeful strategy

[MOMFUDSKI]

41. Great call. Now

the press has to realize this is round 2 and will they change their ways. But the corporations run all of it so here we are. Democracies fail easily- sad to say

[Mr. Ected]

42. I wonder if the Christian Nationalists would vote for him en bloc

I think not. I know not.

[LymphocyteLover]

48. Yes, I don't think he really could win the nomination. This is just about building his brand

[LymphocyteLover]

43. Disagree-- Ramaswamy created the attention for himself and the media is reporting it

And Ramaswamy is smart and knew what he needed to do to get attention from GOP voters

[SCantiGOP]

46. Most MAGAs don't know yet that he is a Hindu

For all his talk about our Judeo-Christian values guiding our political and legal system, he has never converted, and is still a follower of Hinduism.
One of my wife’s Trumpy relatives (who loves Trump but is afraid he will lose to Biden) told her she liked him until she found out he “doesn’t even believe in our god.”
I guess she thinks God left Europe and came to America on the Mayflower.

[LiberalFighter]

49. Media needs to do more on his support Putin (Russia).

[lambchopp59]

51. Ooooh Eeee Ooh Aah aah ahh ting tang Ramaswamabingbang

?si=6qk5yoUfdy91B7qG

[Evolve Dammit]

55. Another arrogant, rich dickhead. How we got Orange Julius. Can we ever learn MSM?? All about $$$.

[brooklynite]

57. No comparison

Trump was considered entertaining. Ramaswany is a current curiosity who will fade away in favor of another candidate in a month or two.

[Rhiannon12866]

58. Exactly. And I find him too offensive for words.

[Ilsa]

59. Yeah, media thugs are pushing Vivek down

our throats. Just like they are.promoting the idea of a real, violent civil war.

[Kingofalldems]

61. Isn't he a huge Putin fan?

[BannonsLiver]

63. They can try and push him all they want

There is no chance in hell the GOP primary electorate would ever nominate a POC for president.

[DinahMoeHum]

64. Well well well, MSM is STILL trying to make a horse race. . .

. . .out of horse manure.

[Thrill]

71. Doesn't really matter

The Trump Voters will never support him. He has the wrong name and color. Unless he makes Trump his running mate lol

[Justice]

72. Ramaswamy reminds me of The Master in Doctor Who

The Master is gleefully evil. So is Ramaswamy.

[GenThePerservering]

73. If you mean Roger Delgado's master

he was WAY too classy!

[Justice]

79. No, I mean most recent - Sacha Dhawan

He looks very similar and both (the politician and the actor) have that same hand waving, white teeth smile with gleeful evil personality

[ecstatic]

75. It's not going to work. There's really no audience for him

Let's be clear, most of the remaining GOP is racist. And those of us on the left think Vivek is an annoying / obnoxious clown.

[JHB]

76. They did the same with Giuliani in 2001. Fawning media is how he got...

...the "America's Mayor" label.