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Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 11:58 AM Aug 2023

Newly declassified US intel claims Russia is laundering propaganda through unwitting Westerners

It's not just trolls. A lot of times it's useful idiots.

US intelligence agencies believe that the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) is attempting to influence public policy and public opinion in the West by directing Russian civilians to build relationships with influential US and Western individuals and then disseminate narratives that support Kremlin objectives, obscuring the FSB’s role through layers of ostensibly independent actors.

“These influence operations are designed to be deliberately small scale, the overall goal being US [and] Western persons presenting these ideas, seemingly organic,” a US official authorized to discuss the material told CNN. “The co-optee influence operations are built primarily on personal relationships … they build trust with them and then they can leverage that to covertly push the FSB’s agenda.”

The campaigns have sometimes been effective at planting Russian narratives in the Western press, according to the intelligence.


https://news.yahoo.com/newly-declassified-us-intel-claims-142734560.html
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Newly declassified US intel claims Russia is laundering propaganda through unwitting Westerners (Original Post) Beastly Boy Aug 2023 OP
Vivek for example flamingdem Aug 2023 #1
Empty Green QED Aug 2023 #2
Tucker Carlson. tblue37 Aug 2023 #6
That woman who accused Biden of sexual misconduct, then ran off to Russia. yardwork Aug 2023 #9
I have heard normal American politicians repeating, word for word, Russian propaganda Walleye Aug 2023 #3
Lots and lots of useful idiots JHB Aug 2023 #4
The moscow8 come immediately to mind. niyad Aug 2023 #5
We saw this unfold in real time on DU. It started in 2014 when Russia invaded Crimea. yardwork Aug 2023 #7
Great post, yardwork! dmr Aug 2023 #22
I have PTSD! yardwork Aug 2023 #23
One reason why we need to be repeating over and over again that the russians, chinese, and saudis BComplex Aug 2023 #8
and it is not too farfetched they could provoke a US civil war Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #11
I totally agree. BComplex Aug 2023 #13
we should. this will be more reminiscent of '16 than '20 Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #14
Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, etc JohnSJ Aug 2023 #10
Kick dalton99a Aug 2023 #12
Kick. KentuckyWoman Aug 2023 #15
That last sentence was something I was going to ask MagickMuffin Aug 2023 #16
Is? Cheezoholic Aug 2023 #17
Make that "witless" rather than unwitting CanonRay Aug 2023 #18
Do they mean like the trump and republican party ? republianmushroom Aug 2023 #19
Speed Dial NowISeetheLight Aug 2023 #20
Newly declassified US intel claims Russia is laundering propaganda through MontanaMama Aug 2023 #21

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
9. That woman who accused Biden of sexual misconduct, then ran off to Russia.
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 12:23 PM
Aug 2023

Where she was welcomed by the Russian spy who was close to Trump. I mean, how much more obvious does it have to be?

Or Charles McGonigal, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI Counterintelligence Division in New York, who pleaded guilty to being a Russian spy? He just happened to be the person who pushed Comey to investigate Hillary Clinton, weeks before the 2016 election. Where did that story go?

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
7. We saw this unfold in real time on DU. It started in 2014 when Russia invaded Crimea.
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 12:16 PM
Aug 2023

What I saw was a combination of posts from probable Russian trolls and posts from "ordinary people" who had been influenced by Russian propaganda.

This ramped up during 2015 and 2016 (support for BREXIT, a highly toxic primary season, and lots of negativity about the Democratic nominee, culminating in Trump's win.) Some DUers formed another site dedicated to trashing the Democratic nominee for president. Posts there were non-stop propaganda and dissemination of lies.

I noticed at the time that wording in many posts was "off." For instance, "Hillary was anointed!" Americans usually don't use the word anointed. That word has specific historical and cultural connotations. Where did that phrase come from? Where did the funds for internet sites promoting lies about Democrats come from?

BComplex

(9,913 posts)
8. One reason why we need to be repeating over and over again that the russians, chinese, and saudis
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 12:17 PM
Aug 2023

are spreading propaganda to break up the USA. We really do need to keep repeating it over and over and over until it actually penetrates!

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
11. and it is not too farfetched they could provoke a US civil war
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 12:27 PM
Aug 2023

in wake of J6 and our hyper partidan/toxic environment.

It means we should be wary of repeating secessionist talking points ourselves (let the west coast states form their own country!)

Somehow, we have to see our opponents as actual people who are being misled.

BComplex

(9,913 posts)
13. I totally agree.
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 12:29 PM
Aug 2023

Maybe if we start emailing the pundits to talk about this interference, and attempts at dividing us, it would start to get through.

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
14. we should. this will be more reminiscent of '16 than '20
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 12:33 PM
Aug 2023

Chaos candidate who gets tons of free publicity while his allies work overtime to erode trust in Dem leaders and US institutions.

Only advantages are Biden is running as incumbent and people now know the damage Trump causes as Resident Evil.

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
16. That last sentence was something I was going to ask
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 01:14 PM
Aug 2023



How many are talking heads on cable news?


MontanaMama

(24,722 posts)
21. Newly declassified US intel claims Russia is laundering propaganda through
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 02:59 PM
Aug 2023
Dimwitted Westerners. I fixed it.
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