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Takket

(23,742 posts)
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 06:43 PM Aug 2023

Wow........ great question from a person in a diner.......

Last edited Sat Aug 26, 2023, 12:50 PM - Edit history (2)

There's a reason the media and right wing politicians almost always talk to voters in diners... they are almost always right wing.

ABC news just showed Tim Scott getting the shock of his life in a diner... I'm sure he was expecting to get asked if he'll lock up crooked Hillary for eating babies, but instead he was asked "If you can't stand up to Trump, how are you ever going to be able to stand up to the leaders of China and Russia?"

GREAT QUESTION

unfortunately ABC news did not show his reply but just said "Scott pushed because but the voter was not convinced".

But I'd like EVERYONE to keep asking EVERY rethug candidate for this. Make them choose. The MAGATs, or everyone else. You can't have it both ways.

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Wow........ great question from a person in a diner....... (Original Post) Takket Aug 2023 OP
This is what we're up against "unfortunately ABC news did not show his reply but just said" MagickMuffin Aug 2023 #1
Vexing, not showing full answers and replies about politics but spending a long time on betsuni Aug 2023 #3
There's also no time because of commercials. NCDem47 Aug 2023 #4
30 seconds if you're lucky Wednesdays Aug 2023 #6
Howard Dean was just on Ari MOMFUDSKI Aug 2023 #2
I still love Howard Dean! calimary Aug 2023 #32
Great Man DENVERPOPS Aug 2023 #33
i saw it on the news too. i'm looking for the video but can't find it. orleans Aug 2023 #5
Sad to know the movie Idiocracy was a prophecy Attilatheblond Aug 2023 #37
Depends on where the diner is. paleotn Aug 2023 #7
Scott pushed the voter? NameAlreadyTaken Aug 2023 #8
my typo... edited. Takket Aug 2023 #13
Tim Scott has tense back-and-forth with New Hampshire voter over support for Trump dalton99a Aug 2023 #9
Well... 2naSalit Aug 2023 #10
Standard dodge: Talk about something else, and if the questioner presses for an answer gratuitous Aug 2023 #21
Well said... that Pissed me Off. Cha Aug 2023 #25
Arrogant Authoritarian Asshole Deflector. Cha Aug 2023 #24
Getting snippy when trawling for votes dflprincess Aug 2023 #36
None of the R's from my state want to meet the public. Delmette2.0 Aug 2023 #11
Exactly. In Indiana they visit county courthouses and photo opp with elected republicans Captain Zero Aug 2023 #34
LOL, "Midwestern Diner Man" is a favorite meme... keep_left Aug 2023 #12
Consistently one of the best editorial cartoons on the comic pages. Diamond_Dog Aug 2023 #14
Yep, and for decades now... keep_left Aug 2023 #15
I especially like that "Sunday Talking About Stuff Show" calimary Aug 2023 #31
only talking to voters in diners llmart Aug 2023 #16
BOOM! onecaliberal Aug 2023 #17
K&R UTUSN Aug 2023 #18
Hey, take it easy on diners. It doesn't get any better than Waffle House. It's your 3AM home away flashman13 Aug 2023 #19
I saw that on the national news tonight Emile Aug 2023 #20
Seems like a fair question, to me. republianmushroom Aug 2023 #22
I wish every journalist in this country had the same guts as this citizen. LonePirate Aug 2023 #23
The only current exception to this rule... TSExile Aug 2023 #30
This says bad things about journalistic ethics, because it sounds like Scott and his PatrickforB Aug 2023 #26
It continues to boggle my mind DENVERPOPS Aug 2023 #35
Not to mention how the oligarchy pays them enough ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #38
the only reason MSNBC allows Rachel DENVERPOPS Aug 2023 #39
GREAT QUESTION! One everybody should be asking the candidates. Martin68 Aug 2023 #27
Regardless of their politics, Graniteheads tend to be cranky ... sarge43 Aug 2023 #28
I will ask that same question to every dumb trumper I meet. SouthernDem4ever Aug 2023 #29

MagickMuffin

(18,340 posts)
1. This is what we're up against "unfortunately ABC news did not show his reply but just said"
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 06:47 PM
Aug 2023



The media should have showed the reply. They need to follow up on the questions being asked.



betsuni

(29,140 posts)
3. Vexing, not showing full answers and replies about politics but spending a long time on
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 06:57 PM
Aug 2023

weather events in regional areas: deadly wildfires, deadly tornados, deadly hurricanes, deadly this and that, reporters asking "Were you scared?" and "How did you feel?" and that's ten minutes.

NCDem47

(3,479 posts)
4. There's also no time because of commercials.
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 07:20 PM
Aug 2023

All the broadcast network nightly news feel like they spend 20 minutes in commercials (usually prescription meds). My other favorite is when they tease a story and it’s just a 30-second anchor read—usually between two commercials!

Wednesdays

(22,801 posts)
6. 30 seconds if you're lucky
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 07:47 PM
Aug 2023

We really should time them to be accurate. It's probably more like twelve seconds.

 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
2. Howard Dean was just on Ari
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 06:51 PM
Aug 2023

and said Germany checked their brains somewhere and Hitler happened. Likened what happened over there to what is happening here.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
33. Great Man
Sat Aug 26, 2023, 03:47 PM
Aug 2023

He could have lead the Dem Party, but the Repubs knew that and wore him down......

orleans

(37,022 posts)
5. i saw it on the news too. i'm looking for the video but can't find it.
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 07:42 PM
Aug 2023

i think the guy he spoke with at the diner was in or from new hampshire? thought that was what i heard.

anyway, chuck goudie also did a story about the two people from chicago who surrendered at fulton county. at the very end of the clip he said their abc legal analyst said the best way for trump to evade prison on these four indictments is to be president and pardon himself.

i thought: no! he can't pardon himself out of the georgia STATE crap, only FEDERAL crap!
way to go abc legal analyst!

here's the clip
https://abc7chicago.com/13701247/

Attilatheblond

(9,017 posts)
37. Sad to know the movie Idiocracy was a prophecy
Sat Aug 26, 2023, 05:34 PM
Aug 2023

We are in a lotta trouble in this nation, what with rampant mental illness and stupidity up a gum stump

paleotn

(22,384 posts)
7. Depends on where the diner is.
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 07:48 PM
Aug 2023

For Repukes, invariably it's a diner in B. F. Egypt, Red State.

dalton99a

(94,639 posts)
9. Tim Scott has tense back-and-forth with New Hampshire voter over support for Trump
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 07:49 PM
Aug 2023
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/tim-scott-tense-back-forth-new-hampshire-voter-support-trump-rcna101885

Tim Scott has tense back-and-forth with New Hampshire voter over support for Trump
The South Carolina senator was one of the GOP candidates who said at Wednesday's debate that he would support Trump in the general election if convicted of crimes.
Aug. 25, 2023, 3:09 PM CDT
By Nnamdi Egwuonwu and Emma Barnett

CONCORD, N.H. — Sen. Tim Scott got into a tense exchange with a 79-year-old retired schoolteacher Friday during a campaign stop, focused on his resistance to criticizing former President Donald Trump.

Scott was making his way through the Windmill Restaurant, a small diner, when customer David Coffey called him over to the booth where he was eating and confronted the South Carolina senator with a question about Trump.

“You don’t stand up to Trump, how are you going to stand up to the president of Russia and China?” Coffey asked.

As Scott tried to talk around the question and Coffey pushed back, Scott said, “Do you want to have a conversation? Or do you want a monologue? I’m happy to listen, but if you want to have a dialogue, I’ll be speaking as well.”

...

2naSalit

(103,236 posts)
10. Well...
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 07:53 PM
Aug 2023

If he can't keep side stepping the question then he feels like he's being mistreated. Got it.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. Standard dodge: Talk about something else, and if the questioner presses for an answer
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 08:51 PM
Aug 2023

"Don't interrupt me while I'm dodging your question" or "Do you want a monolog?" Sen. Scott would desperately like to distinguish himself, but he's pretty bog-standard politician.

Cha

(319,494 posts)
24. Arrogant Authoritarian Asshole Deflector.
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 10:34 PM
Aug 2023

What the fuck does he think he has to offer Except Major Fucking Bullshit.

Delmette2.0

(4,506 posts)
11. None of the R's from my state want to meet the public.
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 08:01 PM
Aug 2023

No town hall meetings only preselected visits at a business or family with a photo-op.

Captain Zero

(8,932 posts)
34. Exactly. In Indiana they visit county courthouses and photo opp with elected republicans
Sat Aug 26, 2023, 03:56 PM
Aug 2023

Then the papers write it up like it was real dialog of issues or something.

keep_left

(3,213 posts)
12. LOL, "Midwestern Diner Man" is a favorite meme...
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 08:03 PM
Aug 2023

...in This Modern World, the Tom Tomorrow cartoon. I guess this guy was a little more independent-minded; maybe it's the location ( New Hampshire--"live free or die" ) rather than the usual "Fred's Typical Ohio Diner" customer in the cartoon. ( Another of Tom T's favorite memes is the "Sunday Talking About Stuff Show" ).

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17368877

keep_left

(3,213 posts)
15. Yep, and for decades now...
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 08:11 PM
Aug 2023

...since the late '80s, I think!

Though I only find TMW in places like editorial pages, the DailyKos, alternative weeklies (the few that remain), etc. Never have seen it on a comics page.

llmart

(17,650 posts)
16. only talking to voters in diners
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 08:28 PM
Aug 2023

I wonder why they don't go to Whole Foods stores or maybe Trader Joes or even Panera and interview voters? Oh that's right. No one wants to hear what those "elitists" have to say. They use all those big fancy words that no one understands but them.

I'm sick of the diner being some sort of representative of middle America. They're not. I can't even think of a diner near me.

flashman13

(2,452 posts)
19. Hey, take it easy on diners. It doesn't get any better than Waffle House. It's your 3AM home away
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 08:43 PM
Aug 2023

home.

Emile

(42,575 posts)
20. I saw that on the national news tonight
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 08:45 PM
Aug 2023

and my mouthed dropped. What a great question!

LonePirate

(14,375 posts)
23. I wish every journalist in this country had the same guts as this citizen.
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 09:09 PM
Aug 2023

Unfortunately, being spineless is a requirement to be a journalist in this country nowadays.

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
30. The only current exception to this rule...
Sat Aug 26, 2023, 01:34 PM
Aug 2023

...I believe, is Mehdi Hasan of MSNBC. Too bad he will never moderate a debate of the Geand Old Patriarchy, ahem, Party. He would eviscerate them!!

PatrickforB

(15,471 posts)
26. This says bad things about journalistic ethics, because it sounds like Scott and his
Sat Aug 26, 2023, 10:43 AM
Aug 2023

producer had an outcome already in mind when they went into the diner.

ABC has always been a bit right-leaning.

Same with science. If you go into something with a desired outcome in mind and you shape the data to show that desired outcome then it isn't really science.

If a journalist goes into something with an outcome already in mind and allows that to shape the story, then it isn't really journalism.

As to Scott, well, he's finding out how very thin that line is between placating the deplorable base to win the primary and being credible as a national candidate. Because that was a GREAT question that should be asked of all the clowns in the GOP clown car.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
35. It continues to boggle my mind
Sat Aug 26, 2023, 04:00 PM
Aug 2023

when people seriously wonder about the so called Journalists in the entire U.S. Media...............

A simple fact should be clearly evident to the population of the United States...........

90+% OF ALL MEDIA IN THE UNITED STATES IS OWNED AND OPERATED BY UBER RICH REPUBLICANS.......
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO SAY?????????????????????

Most evident is the White House Press Corps. Those journalists worked hard to get to that position. Do you honestly expect them to say one single word that the Uber Rich Republican Owners and Operators wouldn't like?????? REALLY?????? That reporter/journalist would lose their job instantaneously, their prestige, and their incredible salary, with just ONE anti-republican question or statement..........
Most journalists in America have sold their souls, not ANY different than the street walking coke whores in cities across America.....

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
38. Not to mention how the oligarchy pays them enough
Sat Aug 26, 2023, 06:52 PM
Aug 2023

To qualify as 1%. All of the major TV bobbleheads are firmly in 1% territory when it comes to pay, and it's far from rare for some of them to be in .1% territory. The major newspaper reporters are, at a minimum, in the top 10%, and a whole bunch are pushing 1%.

So they support the oligarchy party because it's in their financial interest to do so.

It's time to face the fact that they are not and will not be on the side of We the People. Nearly all of them are traitors, and deserve to be treated as such.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
39. the only reason MSNBC allows Rachel
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 05:04 PM
Aug 2023

is that her viewers are making them an absolute fortune........

And we all know that profits are even more important to the owners/managers than their Republican leanings..................

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
28. Regardless of their politics, Graniteheads tend to be cranky ...
Sat Aug 26, 2023, 12:20 PM
Aug 2023

with a well developed bs detector. They usually don't like government, but like politics which they pay attention to.

If Scott interrupted Granitehead while he was having his fifth cuppa blacker than the heart of darkness coffee, he got exactly what he deserved.

Note all primary candidates: New England diners are sanctuaries; treat them as such or else some cranky old bastard could go Tim Scott on your ass. Also the diner's owner/manager may go Tilton Diner and throw you out for getting in way of the servers and customers.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
29. I will ask that same question to every dumb trumper I meet.
Sat Aug 26, 2023, 12:56 PM
Aug 2023

It's the great unanswered question.

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