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The latest right-wing panic? Joe Biden is coming for your ceiling fans! (Salon)As Newsweek points out in their coverage of this, using intel from a DOE spokesperson, "These proposed standards, which are required by Congress [and] wouldn't take effect until 2028, would give Americans more energy efficient options to choose from, and would save hardworking taxpayers up to $369 million per year, while substantially reducing harmful air pollutiona crucial fact that some have conveniently failed to mention." They add that, "Biden has made climate change and the green energy transition a massive focus of his administration by passing laws like the Inflation Reduction Act . . . and has also has taken smaller steps to reduce the nation's carbon footprint as well, such as establishing stricter regulations for gas stoves and dishwashers." And while none of this accurately translates to him personally ripping appliances out of the wall, the intent here does not compute for a certain faction of the population. ...
https://news.yahoo.com/latest-wing-panic-joe-biden-211115800.html
KentuckyWoman
(7,400 posts)Damn thing squeaks and the fix it guy can't figure it out.
murielm99
(32,988 posts)I am sorry for laughing at you, but I can just see and hear this now. We are on our third fan. We finally have one that works well.
Polybius
(21,900 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 28, 2023, 04:17 PM - Edit history (1)
And it doesn't bother me at all for some reason. I sleep right through it and I'm a super-light sleeper.
doc03
(39,086 posts)ret5hd
(22,502 posts)that they are proposing anything more than efficiency standards of some sort that would give you more efficient options when/if you replace your existing fans?
And if your fingers turn cold, how bad did you really need the fan?
doc03
(39,086 posts)mercuryblues
(16,409 posts)That could hurt.
Arthur_Frain
(2,355 posts)Id have bought a few cases of the old incandescent ones. Probably wouldnt have used them house wide, just the room I read in most often.
Lemon Lyman
(1,594 posts)Costco & Sam's Club used to sell LED's for almost nothing. I bought a 12-pack of LED bulbs at Sam's Club in May. The cost was $5.23. I went to buy more in July and was shocked at the price jump. They're now $21.98. I wish I would've bought $100 worth, regardless of how well they work or don't.
doc03
(39,086 posts)of the energy. Those twisty things (CFL) were terrible.
Arthur_Frain
(2,355 posts)And the leds are better than when they first came out.
Torchlight
(6,822 posts)The CFL glare is just too damn harsh for me. The changeover was a win/win from out POV.
hunter
(40,689 posts)I was an early adopter of compact fluorescent bubs. I always bought the high quality brands after I had some bad experiences with crap bulbs that would either flicker or burn out early.
I've got some higher quality compact fluorescent bulbs in my home that are more than twenty years old.
When I've had to replace compact fluorescent bulbs I use high quality LED bulbs.
California power companies were subsidizing these energy efficient bulbs for many years, but not the crappy brands. Some of the worst compact fluorescent bulbs I ever bought were the cheap unsubsidized brands found in places like WalMart.
If I put on my tinfoil hat I sometimes imagine that flooding the market with crap compact fluorescent and LED bulbs was a deliberate ploy by the coal-fired power industry to give them a bad reputation.
LED lighting technology has progressed so far that it's become common in the movie industry. Cinematographers are some of the fussiest people on earth about lighting and will not accept poor color rendition, flickering, etc..
Perversely, the lighting I'm now nostalgic for is orange high pressure sodium street lighting. I was a little sad when our city replaced that with more energy efficient "moonlight" LED fixtures.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I like vintage table lamps, and a warm, incandescent-mimicking light is our favorite also. But they've made better light quality available and become dimmable, and they seem to last forever (originals in our kitchen recessed well over a decade without replacement) and aren't hot in our hot climate. We no longer buy them just for energy efficiency, battle climate change, etc.
wishstar
(5,829 posts)In NC, we needed 4 ceiling fans to stay comfortable before installing AC. One of the celing fans and a box fan burned out needing replacement plus we went through 2 dehumidifiers that burned out before getting AC.
We waited to get AC until the new refrigerant and 13 efficiency AC was standard and were amazed that light bill didn't go up at all when we switched to AC keeping house around 75-76.
struggle4progress
(126,147 posts)ananda
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ChazII
(6,448 posts)I keep my house at 80 degrees during the summer. With the heat have had these past two months in Phoenix they have been a sanity saver.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)over new LED energy efficiency regulations and climate change actions announced during Obama's presidency.
Forerunner of the defiant "They'll never take my freeeedom!!!!" yammering over masking and distancing to protect self and others from a deadly virus. But I'm glad I didn't know it. Or who among those we knew then would die.