Nikki Haley says America's retirement age is 'way too low' and needs to be increased, while also cal

[Eugene]

Nikki Haley says America's retirement age is 'way too low' and needs to be increased, while also calling on cognitive tests for politicians over 75 (Business Insider)

• Nikki Haley, a Republican presidential candidate, said she wants to up the full retirement age.
• She proposed increasing the full retirement age for "people like my kids in their twenties."
• The idea is wildly unpopular, according to polling.

GOP presidential candidate Nikki Haley said she thinks the US' retirement age is "way too low" and needs to be increased.

In an interview with Bloomberg Markets on Thursday a day after she attended the first GOP presidential debate in Milwaukee, Haley said the country should increase the retirement age in an attempt to address possible Social Security and Medicare insolvency.

"The way we deal with it," Haley said, "is we don't touch anyone's retirement or anyone who's been promised in, but we go to people like my kids in their twenties when they're coming into the system, and we say the rules have changed."

https://news.yahoo.com/nikki-haley-says-americas-retirement-164334676.html

[spooky3]

1. Has she heard of Wikipedia? Data there show US is in the middle-to-high

Part of the range of minimum retirement ages.

[jimfields33]

22. If we do nothing, doesn't the monthly checks go down 20 percent in 2036?

First year I’m eligible at 67. Figures. Ugh!

[spooky3]

30. There are alternatives to raising the minimum age that

Will improve funding.

[jimfields33]

35. It's sick when boss' come out in august saying their pay checks have gone up due to the limit

Yep I’ve had a few jerks literally do that.

[spooky3]

46. Not considerate. But keep in mind that they will get a lower

Percentage of their pay when they retire than will people who earn less than the maximum base. Benefits are capped, because the goal of the system is to provide a safety net rather than a full pension that would cover income needs.

[jimfields33]

57. That's true. But it still sucks hearing that when most are way lower then the max.

I understand the point you are making though.

[ProfessorGAC]

54. I Maxxed Out On SS Each Of My Last 29 Years

I didn't understand how that benefitted the system then, & I still don't.
The argument that we don't cap contributions unless we drop the cap on benefits is lost on me.
Benefits could be means tested, incrementally, above whatever the "no-strings" maximum benefit is for that year.
People paying nothing on 90% of their compensation would never need more that the max benefit.
Yes, there would be whining from those that made 7 figures for the last 15 years. But, they'll give over it and never k8ss the extra ten or twenty thousand.
Just eliminate the silly cap. Fixes a lot of issues.

[texasfiddler]

2. I feel excited. like the French

[leftstreet]

6. LOL

Oui!

[KPN]

12. Guffaw. Couldn't help myself. That was FUNNY.

[Blues Heron]

3. Going for the youth vote as only a weird puke can

"The way we deal with it," Haley said, "is we don't touch anyone's retirement or anyone who's been promised in, but we go to people like my kids in their twenties when they're coming into the system, and we say the rules have changed."

[lame54]

16. She just her kids votes

[Trekologer]

34. That position is weaksauce

If your position is to say we absolutely must cut Social Security, be brave and demand cuts for everyone, including current beneficiaries. That'll show you're not going to bend to special interests.

[captain queeg]

4. Hmmm. Guess she's not in favor of dropping the limit on high paid earners who quit paying

After earning a certain amount. Not sure what that is nowadays. Some were between $150k and $200k most likely. Many studies have shown that would have a huge impact, if those people paid SS on all their earnings.

[newdayneeded]

5. Question for the group.....

Why is it only millionaires that keep advocating for raising the retirement age?

[aocommunalpunch]

53. This country loves slavery and

has been trying to claw it back since 1865.

[tanyev]

7. And DeSantis thinks U.S. life expectancy going down is just great.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218224010

[Carlitos Brigante]

8. So this imbecile says Biden is too old to do his job. But at the same time

"let's raise the retirement age". This right here should tell anyone with any doubts that none of these muthafuckas are serious people. They do nothing but talk out of both sides of their ass. And just hope something sticks.

[czarjak]

9. Work hard. (For the right to work harder) The only thing R's like better than cheap labor...

Is free labor.

[machoneman]

21. "Work will make you free". The iron railing moto over the Auschwitz death camp. Nazis one and all!

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/photo/view-of-the-main-entrance-to-the-auschwitz-camp

Oh, let's do ANYTHING but raise the limit on SS contributions to $500,000 or even $1 million. Gosh, we can't possibly do that as all those rich folks would squeal and vote for Democrats.

Nimarata Nikki Randhawa, you suck!

[Deuxcents]

10. Unless I have been mistaken all these years...

A promise was made by Social Security that if I participated in paying into this fund…kinda like a pay it forward thing..I would be eligible for benefits at an age agreed to by congress. I, like everyone else, even in their early careers, expect that promise to be fulfilled. There are plenty of ways to enhance the funds without breaking this contract with the American workforce that pay in every paycheck. This idea isn’t one of them. Good luck selling it to the young people

[lostnfound]

20. They've raised the age in 1983. It was 65, now it's 67 for most of us.

If you were born in 1960 or later, it’s 67.
Raising it further will hurt young people in the near term as well as the long-term — promotions and better jobs will be held longer by people who want to retire but can’t.

The absurdity of extending it for young people — the solvency of SS when they are old will heavily depend on how many babies they’ve raised who have become workers.

Plus there is the post-COVID syndrome for many.

[Attilatheblond]

11. Tell her to visit Walmarts and check out all the exhausted 65+ year olds working there

Housing costs much and too many 'retirees' are worn out but still working part time just to keep a roof over themselves. They are tired, in pain, worn out and barely managing.

Haley can take her pampered ass and buy some empathy. American workers are worn out, often well before 67. She is just working for the bosses who want to exploit us peasants until we drop. It's another end run around Social Security.

[SharonClark]

14. Nikki doesn't hang with those people.

She, and most politicians, are surrounded by elites who have the money and support systems to work well past retirement age.

[Attilatheblond]

43. Yep. Totally disconnected from actual life in the USA

No way such royalty should be in the Oval Office.

[brush]

13. She wants us to work until we drop.

Last edited Sun Aug 27, 2023, 01:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Fuck her. The US already has a higher retirement age than other western democracies...and fewer vacation and family leave days and no universal health care.

Again, fuck her and her repupblican, anti-worker spew.

[area51]

31. +1 n/t

[3Hotdogs]

15. Hey, I got a better idea that nobody ever thought of about fixing Social Security:

RAISE THE CONTRIBUTION RATE.

[jcgoldie]

25. more importantly the WAGE BASE LIMIT

There's no reason folks should be exempt after the first 160k. In fact thats the most expendable income which should fund the program.

[hibbing]

17. Birth, school, work, death n/t

[iwillalwayswonderwhy]

18. Jeez, is there something wrong with the very idea of enjoying retirement?

My husband and I both retired mid-sixties. Is it so terrible that we have enjoyed some time to ourselves? Our health is still relatively good, we are not rich, but are comfortable. The idea that we are supposed to keep grinding away until we physically and mentally can not any longer, then we just die? I’ve had some satisfying jobs in my life. None, however, worth dying for.

[House of Roberts]

19. It's always the ones who sit on their ass at a desk,

who think the ones who actually do physical work for a living should work more years.

[LiberalFighter]

29. It sure seems that way.

And they think they should get paid more too.

Like Mary Barra annual $28 million annual salary. She has staff that does most of the actual work.

[Naio]

23. It has been proven that this evil woman hates old people.

By the way ..she look old for 51.

[JHB]

24. She forgets that other people love their kids and don't want them screwed over

Also, bullshit that it ends there. The plan is the same as with abortion: get one restriction and the push for the next, until it is de facto or de jure ended. One of the motivators for stuffing right-wingers on the courts has been to finally overturn the decisions that ruled that Social Security was constitutional.

This isn't pushed by anybody concerned with the public good. This is pushed by people who see a huge pile of money they don't have their fingers in. Their fingers and their vacuums to suck the money their way.

[Hugin]

26. Pulling up the ladders is so last millennium.

I guess Nikki is going for the Reagan-esque vibe.

[LiberalFighter]

27. She clearly doesn't understand Social Security.

It is based on reportable earnings. If they work longer they get more when they retire.

Especially if there is less retirement time the payout would be higher.

[Hotler]

28. Eat shit you selfish witch. nt

[honest.abe]

32. She doesnt even understand what the current retirement age is.

Its actually 62 for those who want to early retire and 67 for FRA (Full Retirement Age).

Total clueless and ignorant comment.

[Wonder Why]

33. "I have enough to retire now if I wanted. The rest of you are going to have to work longer

so I make more money and pay fewer taxes."

[sky_masterson]

36. I'm 57 and doing the same labor I've done in my 20's

I feel that If I got an easier job where I wasn't moving and lifting all day that I would fall apart. I'd gain weight and my body would start weakening. I see many my age with easier jobs or no jobs just fall apart. I've seen way older people than I live and move and get by pretty well if they keep moving. I fear retirement at younger ages may be bad for some. Would be bad for me at least.
This doesn't mean the government needs to raise it.

[Elessar Zappa]

47. You're free to work as long as you want

but most people don’t want to work till they drop. The Republicans will lose big if they make this a major issue.

[Brainfodder]

37. PERFECT Alienate a large voting block.

They aint good at research or telling it like it is, but it is on purpose, and what pray tell is that purpose?

They can't win with honesty?

[spooky3]

48. She's counting on (a) their voting rates have historically been

Lower than for other groups, even with some increase recently, and b) they typically vote more blue so she figures most aren’t voting for her anyway.

[Buckeyeblue]

38. The problem is there are too many variables

For blue collar workers (if that's still an apt term), 67 is probably too old. But for white collar workers, it's probably ok.

I think having an intergenerational mix at work is good. It forces older workers to be open to new ideas but in the context of years of experience to know where the risks are. Younger workers learn how to better question the staus quo.

But at a certain point you don't want older workers to hand over those jobs and retire.

[Maraya1969]

39. Meanwhile she has 8 million set aside and I'm sure plenty more set up to come. Greed spilling out o

her pores.

[themaguffin]

40. "Nikki Haley wants to cut Social Security" should be the headline.

[MissMillie]

41. And of course the age for kids to work is too high

Start them really young, at rock-bottom wages, keep them working at unacceptably low wages until they drop dead.

THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is the GOP plan for a sound economy.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

42. This traitor tramp is too brainless to think

The retirement age is already too high. For decades now, tt's hurt our young people in the work force. People retiring so late makes jobs scarcer--which is what traitor scum want--us all desperate for jobs.

The solution to making Social Security and Medicare solvent in perpetuity is to eliminate the maximum salary cap on paying in.

If she had a brain, rather than delusions of grandeur, she'd know that.

[jimfields33]

59. She's probably never stepped foot in a trailer.

I’m not sure she grew up rich, but I’m pretty sure she wasn’t poor.

[sarcasmo]

44. Work till you drop, GOP 2024.

[Emile]

60. Hell of a campaign message.

[eissa]

45. The media should be more focused on this

rather than the 24/7 trump coverage. The GOP are not only coming after your reproductive and voting rights, they will also have you working into your 80s.

[Paladin]

49. Go piss up a rope, lady. (nt)

[Maeve]

50. Nikki Haley doesn't care about manual laborers

There, fixed it for you

[GoCubsGo]

56. Nikki only cares about Nikki.

And, what's best for Nikki. Screw everyone else. Typical Republican...

[Emile]

51. Yippie wage slaves for life. Who in hell would vote to work

forever? Oh, never mind. People who voted for the magic R will.

[struggle4progress]

52. She gets paid more for a short speech than most folk make in several years

[GoCubsGo]

55. Those are the words of someone who never did a hard day's work in her life.

Consider also that this phony-baloney sack of shit doesn't think poor people should have health care, either. Which is why she turned down the Medicaid funds provided by the ACA for the people in her state while she was Governor. What's up, "Nikki"? You trying bring your Indian roots to the US in the form of a caste system like the one they have?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

58. Basically she's full of shit