Today Is A BFD

[gab13by13]

Judge Chutkan will set Trump's trial date.

The 2 sides could not be farther apart in the date.

Will this be how Trump is held accountable for his constant threats, his intimidation of judges and prosecutors and jurors, his attempt to taint the jury pool?

Isn't having a speedy Trump trial before the election better that putting him in jail? I think it is, I think that his lashing out strategy will be used against him. This is a big prediction on my part, it may affect my overall % because I think it is worth double points and I am betting against the majority opinion.

Time Matters. We need a Trump trial before the election.

[malaise]

1. Can't wait

Get thee to the greatest page

[Brainfodder]

2. NEED? Not really, his base is gonna have to die out via WOKE or their chaotic death by police BS.

WOKE=aware that he is a grifting POS asshole that deserves the death penalty, and OH but he is a 10 year old in maturity aint gonna cut it since you made him the President, ASSHATS!

He doesn't have the votes just like the last 2 times -a lot more now.

91 felonies!

[gab13by13]

6. Voting against him is a given,

convicting him of his crimes is a must to deter the next traitor who wants to bring down our democracy.

[Brainfodder]

8. I'm not sweating it, I expect hm to be found guilty in all 4 current ones.

Only really likely takes all of 1 for him to rot since he is 77.
Out on appeal remains to be seen for the liar.

[OldBaldy1701E]

24. I agree with you but it is the next step that is most important.

There must be consequences. REAL ones. Ones that will ruin his life just as what he and his administration did and did not do have ruined others. Locking him up in Club Fed is not a consequence, despite the belief that his ego could not handle it. How is that going to punish him? How many died due to inaction from him and his administration? There had better be some real punishment metted out, not just lip service as he goes to a cushy cell with three square a day and the ability to pretend that he is still important. Otherwise, we will have no choice but to examine exactly how some get what they got and others get what they got. The disparity will be too great to dismiss as 'incidental' anymore.

[NJCher]

34. Truth is

There is no punishment equal to the crimes he has committed.

There just isn’t.

However, the universe has its ways and I think we may see something we never thought of. Our human attempt to bring justice to the world often pales when the universe shapes a punishment.

[OldBaldy1701E]

35. Apologies, but I have seen enough evil succeed

To not put my faith in 'the universe' anymore, especially when it comes to people like that orange gibbon and his cronies. We need to stop playing and start punishing. Otherwise, he will just be the first of a long line of shallow vultures who become powerful solely because of a green piece of paper and the fact that everyone worships it, and then try to destroy our nation just because they are not being pampered enough.

[NJCher]

36. My post above

Assumes he is given a prison term. Even that would not be justice. Even a life sentence would not be adequate.

Now do you see my point?

[OldBaldy1701E]

38. I do.

But, it seems your belief is that since nothing will equal what he has done, we should just keep on dancing around him and his cronies while doing little more than 'condemning his actions'? Because I don't see any wisdom in that. What I do see is the eroding of faith in our judicial system because this has certainly shown that there are two tiers to our 'justice' and if one is part of the 'in' crowd, one gets the sweet treatment. You or I would have been put in a cell and we would still be there waiting for a trial, which would have happened by now. We are either equal under the law or we are not. So far... well...

[NJCher]

39. I don't know where you're getting that impression

dancing around him

I've spent decades working in a nonprofit helping people who don't have the money to negotiate the legal system. That would hardly be the opinion of someone who has seen this side of our justice system.

[OldBaldy1701E]

40. I think we might be missing each other on this.

And I would think that doing the great work that you do would continually show that we are in fact not an equal society when it comes to our legal system. Why is this man still able to travel and post insults? You and I both know that you or I would be sitting in a cell right this moment. He is not. That is what I mean about 'dancing around him'. They are not doing what they would do to someone like us. But, someone like him gets to lounge at home while they are being indicted. The system is not fair and just.

However, it looks like we are arguing two different things here. So, if I am truly missing what you are trying to say, then I am sorry. Losing cognitive ability sucks and there is nothing to be done about it. So, it is not a surprise that I may be missing your point.

[Scrivener7]

11. Actually, I think woke means the ability to have empathy and respect for those

who look and/or act differently from the way you do. And it means being awake to the privileges we have that others don't.

Because we are of that mindset, we always knew he was lying.

[Beachnutt]

3. Will she make a decision today ?

Or take a week or two like so many judges do.

[gab13by13]

7. Yeah, I thought about that after I posted.

I do not know, but I hope the decision is expedited.

[Emile]

4. I would set it up for January 6th.

[Scrivener7]

12. Hah! Great idea!

[TexasTowelie]

5. Turn the handle on the vise grip another rotation.

The stress can't be good for an obese elderly scumbag.

[msfiddlestix]

9. Do you know if there is a live feed of this hearing?

If not, I suppose we will learn of the decision via tweets?

[gab13by13]

10. Depending on how long the arguments last

I hope to find out from watching Nicolle, between 4 - 6 PM.

[msfiddlestix]

14. ✔️ Ty n/t

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[Ocelot II]

18. Nothing live in federal court, we'll have to wait for observers to Xeet.

[BumRushDaShow]

13. And it was just set for September 6 - just breaking

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/28/trump-arraignment-set-for-sept-6-in-georgia-election-case.html

(ETA - for the arraignment for GA)

[gab13by13]

15. Wrong trial,

I guess I could have stated this is for the Jack Smith, D.C. trial.

[BumRushDaShow]

16. Just edited that this is for the GA arraignment

[Beastly Boy]

22. Oooh, I am ready to make my prediction now!

I predict that Judge Chutkan will NOT set the trial date for January 6, 2024!

[Beastly Boy]

32. ...and I was spot on!

The rate of accuracy of my predictions now stands at 100%!

(and the inner Nostradamus in me tells me to quit all the prediction nonsense now while I am ahead).

[Beastly Boy]

17. So what is your prediction?

That it is better to have a speedy trial for Trump, or that today is the day Judge Chutkan will set a speedy trial date for Trump before the elections?

Myself, I don't have the balls to make prediction. But as events proceed towards the likelihood of the trial actually happening before the elections, I am thinking about wagering a seven dollar bill in favor of that outcome. I am not rushing to make the bet, though. Perhaps a day after the trial is scheduled to begin, or November 4, 2024, whichever comes first.

[gab13by13]

19. My prediction is that the judge will set a date before the election.

Time has been one of Jack Smith's major goals since he took over for Garland. Only indicting Trump should have been the big tell for everyone.

All of the calls for Trump to be jailed for his constant threats would not have solved the problem. Judge Chutkan, I hope, will use Trump's threats as a major justification for having a speedy trial, less opportunity for Trump to poison the well, which is lawyer speak.

[Beastly Boy]

20. Ok, in this case, I will take a risk and join you in your prediction,

since the judge's decision today does not set the trial date in stone. Between tomorrow and over a year from tomorrow is a safe time frame to expect a reasonable judge to set a reasonable date for any trial in any circumstances. Safe enough even for people like me who are averse to making predictions.

[Trueblue Texan]

21. I think you are right...

...and the judge was brilliant, penalizing TFG the only way that will feel like a penalty. He surely does not know what to think of all these brilliant black women who are cutting him down to the tiny size he actually is! I can't WAIT to see the rest of the show!

[republianmushroom]

23. Stop the coddling. Lock him up.

[OverBurn]

26. +1

[rubbersole]

31. I agree that he needs to be locked up asap.

But the bad news surrounding every detail that comes out makes the repubs squirm as they try to justify their continued support of lawless treason. They're not gaining any voters. The hard-core magats won't ever change. The down ticket republican candidates are going to suffer the longer this stays in the headlines. Bummer.

[iluvtennis]

25. Twitter reporter says judge will rule within the hour. And she just did It's March 4, 2024.

Just on MSNBC

[liberalla]

29. WooHoo!!! Thank you Judge Chutkan!

[onetexan]

27. I'm hoping w all these trial dates going onthw Con w not have timr to stump

And that he & his lawyers w trip over themselves w the heavy case loads in different states. MI & MN haven't yet charged him yet.

[BumRushDaShow]

28. March 4th (as noted above)

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/28/trump-special-counsel-to-clash-over-trial-date-in-dc-election-case.html



Earlier than I thought - I was thinking maybe April/May!

[wendyb-NC]

30. Yes, definitely

Well before the 2024 election. No stalling, he needs to be held to account

[msfiddlestix]

33. So Six months to prepare for trial. Six months before the heat of the General.

Depending on the length of that trial, (I think Jack Smith estimated 6 weeks?)
coupled with the Ga Rico trial... and then therre's the Florida trial.....

heeze, I almost forgot about the NY trial, I'm not clear if that is in limbo or if trial date was set..

I don't have to do a bloody thing to prepare for these cases, and I'm already feeling a bit frantic just trying to keep track.

How would any normal criminal (LOL) deal with 4 criminal trials nearly concurrently?

He should just put himself out of misery.. surely Putin has a special aid to assist him.

[bigtree]

37. maybe this will stop all of the whinging about Garland late blah, blah, blah

...as if the sky was falling.

[avebury]

41. Okay I am confused now. I thought that she set a date of

March 4, 2024.

[ecstatic]

42. I think there's still time for a lot to change with his base

In August of 2003, 2007 and 2019, my top choice for nominee changed. Multiple times in 2019 and even 2020. Honestly, I don't even remember who I voted for in most primaries.

That said, refugs have a weird psychological issues so who knows if they are capable of changing their minds.

All I know is, regardless of how easy we might think it is to beat him, trump should not be allowed anywhere near that nomination. It is disrespectful to the entire nation to have someone like that at the top of any ballot. I understand that republicans do not respect themselves or anyone else, but if we allow him to be their nominee, this country will cross a red line that will signal to the entire world that we're unstable and approaching complete collapse.