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AwakeAtLast

(14,076 posts)
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 03:41 PM Aug 2023

The new DU4

Is currently offline for maintenance. I am thankful that our admins have given subscribers early access. I am hopeful that they will get it up and running for everyone soon.

It is fabulous! It is so easy to read and navigate. I've only been reading it for about a week and a half, and I already miss it.

EarlG and elad have done an outstanding job with this new update! I can't wait until everybody gets to use it!





The new DU4 (Original Post) AwakeAtLast Aug 2023 OP
DISCUSSIONIST.COM for as bad as the "content" was... WarGamer Aug 2023 #1
I get what you are saying but what Discussionist became-- with its ultimate combative audience... hlthe2b Aug 2023 #3
It turned into Twitter, lmao... WarGamer Aug 2023 #5
I only registered at Discussionist so no one else would take my user name. Aristus Aug 2023 #7
Some of us tried to keeps things factual... but there were a handful of hardcore RW'ers WarGamer Aug 2023 #10
Yeah, that seems to be their thing, doesn't it? Aristus Aug 2023 #12
And you can find them on Quora GoneOffShore Aug 2023 #37
i love how nope is now a verb. mopinko Aug 2023 #38
Change is hard. I beta tested it many months ago and see that a lot of the issues have been hlthe2b Aug 2023 #2
I would be happy if Disaffected Aug 2023 #17
Latest should help you in that regard. boston bean Aug 2023 #19
Ex-x-x-cellent! Disaffected Aug 2023 #20
I use bookmarks to save the time-sorted page URL. BadgerKid Aug 2023 #25
I miss it too! DU3 is hurting my eyes right now, lol! Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #4
Soooo easy on the eyes! n/t AwakeAtLast Aug 2023 #32
How do you access it? JHB Aug 2023 #6
Watch at the top of the page that now says "The DU4 beta is currently offline for maintenance" hlthe2b Aug 2023 #8
You can't anymore, they have taken it down to work out bugs. William769 Aug 2023 #9
Only Star members who donated during the Summer Fund Drive had access highplainsdem Aug 2023 #16
When will it be back? Jilly_in_VA Aug 2023 #11
pssst. See this link: hlthe2b Aug 2023 #13
It's fabulous malaise Aug 2023 #14
In some ways DU was ahead of the times... A HERETIC I AM Aug 2023 #15
I remember what a disaster voting posts up and down was Warpy Aug 2023 #21
If by that you mean the "Unrec" escapade..... A HERETIC I AM Aug 2023 #23
I think it cost DU some of the decent but emotionally sensitive posters Warpy Aug 2023 #27
Meh.... A HERETIC I AM Aug 2023 #30
I miss the old meta group. Mosby Aug 2023 #34
LOL! A HERETIC I AM Aug 2023 #35
Love it too!! AllyCat Aug 2023 #18
Everyone keeps raving about DU4... Hugin Aug 2023 #22
That's because.... A HERETIC I AM Aug 2023 #24
Thanks! Hugin Aug 2023 #29
HaHaHaHa! MuseRider Aug 2023 #31
I had to take a nap.... A HERETIC I AM Aug 2023 #33
I like the night screen, it is easy on my eyes. Emile Aug 2023 #26
I am a star member why didn't I see it? Demsrule86 Aug 2023 #28
Did you donate during the summer fund drive? Emile Aug 2023 #36

WarGamer

(10,746 posts)
1. DISCUSSIONIST.COM for as bad as the "content" was...
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 03:44 PM
Aug 2023

It was AMAZING software.

I mean... it was so good, I think they should have licensed it out just like VBulletin, etc...

TOP TOP quality talent behind the scenes at DU...

hlthe2b

(99,928 posts)
3. I get what you are saying but what Discussionist became-- with its ultimate combative audience...
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 03:50 PM
Aug 2023

Well, I'll just say that I was quite content to turn the page on that site. It was a courageous effort, but...

WarGamer

(10,746 posts)
5. It turned into Twitter, lmao...
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 03:58 PM
Aug 2023

But the software, fully coded from scratch by Elad, IIRC... was a thing of art.

Aristus

(64,882 posts)
7. I only registered at Discussionist so no one else would take my user name.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 04:07 PM
Aug 2023

I surfed a couple of radioactive threads and then noped out of there pretty quickly.

WarGamer

(10,746 posts)
10. Some of us tried to keeps things factual... but there were a handful of hardcore RW'ers
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 04:08 PM
Aug 2023

Who just wanted to smear poop on the walls.

mopinko

(68,817 posts)
38. i love how nope is now a verb.
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 09:32 AM
Aug 2023

also, gift, which i hated at 1st, but admit i use. esp on xitter.
love speaking a living language.

hlthe2b

(99,928 posts)
2. Change is hard. I beta tested it many months ago and see that a lot of the issues have been
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 03:47 PM
Aug 2023

corrected and it feels nearly ready to go. In the past, each time I'd come back to DU3 it felt so familiar that I felt like I'd really missed it. But the refinements to DU4 this time around make it similarly welcoming. Good job to Elad and EarlG.

When it does come up on a permanent basis, I suggest all really look at each of the ways to individualize the features to your liking. That made a big difference for me. And for those who find the change jarring, I'd bet those adjustments will ease the transition.

Disaffected

(4,264 posts)
17. I would be happy if
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 05:28 PM
Aug 2023

it allows sorting of threads on start time, rather than time of last reply, as the default.

Maru Kitteh

(28,106 posts)
4. I miss it too! DU3 is hurting my eyes right now, lol!
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 03:55 PM
Aug 2023

Love DU 4, much easier to nav. Efficient, intuitive!


hlthe2b

(99,928 posts)
8. Watch at the top of the page that now says "The DU4 beta is currently offline for maintenance"
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 04:07 PM
Aug 2023

when it is back up it will include a link with instructions to access it. This was still a beta trial so it may not come back up for some time.

highplainsdem

(47,785 posts)
16. Only Star members who donated during the Summer Fund Drive had access
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 04:41 PM
Aug 2023

during the early beta test.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,163 posts)
15. In some ways DU was ahead of the times...
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 04:38 PM
Aug 2023

and I think they might have missed the boat on one or two features that Facebook and other platforms have really exploited.

I mentioned my thoughts to EarlG a while back, and although I don't remember his reasoning for why they didn't do those things, I understand it just wasn't practical.

A couple of those items are;

Allow "Friend" type linking so you can get an alert when someone you like puts up a thread or post.
Allow direct linking of photos from your own computer like Facebook does, instead of having to use a photo sharing site. I realize that feature in particular requires access to a massive amount of server space.

There are other features that the likes of Twitter and Instagram have exploited that DU could have used also, but chose not to.


The other features that Facebook was able to capitalize on, if implemented by the founders here, would have made them multi millionaires, frankly. Democratic Underground predates Facebook by 3 years. But I must say that in some ways, I am glad that DU is not a liberal version of Facebook.

Warpy

(109,714 posts)
21. I remember what a disaster voting posts up and down was
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 05:58 PM
Aug 2023

The alert/jury system is a lot better at getting rid of objectionable stuff and MIRT is fantastic at defenestrating trolls before they can do any damage.

I'm still in the "Who moved my food dish?" stage at DU4, mostly due to my wretched eyesight, but I do find it much easier to read than earlier versions.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,163 posts)
23. If by that you mean the "Unrec" escapade.....
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 06:07 PM
Aug 2023

I have to say I LOVED the Unrec feature.

It lead to some really funny and entertaining, butthurt posts and actually allowed people to express their displeasure or an unfavorable opinion with a thread/idea.

I've always though that the "DUREC" without a counterpoint was one-sided. Why can I only agree something is great? The options are basically, vote "For" or "Abstain".

Hardly seems fair to me.

But I must say, I look back with great humor at the extended threads where people were determined to say that since I voted "Unrec" I was silencing them, all the while it was replies to the thread that kept it at the top of the page!

Ahhh...the good ol' days!

Warpy

(109,714 posts)
27. I think it cost DU some of the decent but emotionally sensitive posters
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 06:29 PM
Aug 2023

As for "unrec," we do still have "trash thread," something that is extremely useful during election year idolatry. It's also good that we can trash an entire forum if it gets too cloying.

I've never thought politics, or just cranking about politics, were particularly suitable fare for the gentler souls among us. A few have managed to soldier on, and for them I am delighted "unrec" and its drama are gone.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,163 posts)
30. Meh....
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 06:38 PM
Aug 2023

You’ve been around here for a long time. It’s a discussion board. Those “gentler souls” you speak of were young once.

I have little sympathy for the ones who demand the rest of us keep offa their lawns and tone it down, lest their pearls be clutched too tightly.

And I’m just as old as most of them.

Bring back Unrec! Let the butthurt be unleashed!!

Hugin

(31,986 posts)
22. Everyone keeps raving about DU4...
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 06:02 PM
Aug 2023

I've never worked out the secret shave-and-a-haircut door knock to get in to try it out.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,163 posts)
24. That's because....
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 06:11 PM
Aug 2023

You're not a big enough weirdo.

Try dressing up like this and wearing one of these hats while you click the thingy;






Worked for me.




A HERETIC I AM

(24,163 posts)
33. I had to take a nap....
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 10:55 PM
Aug 2023

so now that I am no longer napping I can say...


I have an outfit like that. I wear it when I mow the lawn.

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