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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(14,106 posts)
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:30 PM Aug 2023

TN woman pulls magazine out of 9MM gun, then fires it at 4-year-old to scare her

**seems the woman thought pulling the magazine would unload all the bullets** still a very shitty thing to do, to scare a 4 year old with possible death.







https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12458769/tennessee-breanna-runions-firearm-safety-evangaline-gunter.html



https://lawandcrime.com/crime/killer-who-pressed-loaded-gun-to-scared-4-year-old-girls-chest-and-pulled-trigger-claimed-firearms-safety-lesson-prosecutor/

Killer who pressed loaded gun to ‘scared’ 4-year-old girl’s chest and pulled trigger claimed ‘firearms safety’ lesson: Prosecutor

Prosecutors in the office of 9th Judicial District Attorney General Russell Johnson allege that Breanna Gayle Devall Runions shot and killed Evangaline Gunter on Sunday at a residence in Rockwood, Roane County, where Runions, another unidentified woman, and a second child were present. Neither woman was a parent to the children.

When police arrived on the scene, Runions told officers that the shooting took place while she was showing the child “firearm safety,” according to an arrest warrant obtained by Law&Crime.

“Runions removed her Taurus Millenium 9mm handgun from its case, then removed the magazine. Runions related that she then called Gunter over to show her firearm safety, at which point she pressed the barrel of the gun into the front of Gunter’s torso and pulled the trigger, discharging a round into Gunter,” the police report states.

If it’s true that the magazine was removed when the gun was fired, then it would seem there was still a bullet in the chamber.

The defendant’s reported explanation, already suspect in the eyes of investigators, looked even worse after the other woman in the home allegedly told authorities that Runions punished the children that Sunday morning for not waking them up and for eating the second woman’s food.
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TN woman pulls magazine out of 9MM gun, then fires it at 4-year-old to scare her (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 2023 OP
The four rules of firearms safety: rsdsharp Aug 2023 #1
Not stupidity, homicide getagrip_already Aug 2023 #4
You think she wanted to kill her? I'll stand with stupid. rsdsharp Aug 2023 #17
I think she was angry and wasn't thinking..... getagrip_already Aug 2023 #19
I think she did it on purpose...she knows guns...and left a round in the chamber? Bullshit. Demsrule86 Aug 2023 #28
Well she wasn't trying to NOT kill her was she? JFC. Pointed a gun and pulled the trigger. Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #23
She clearly violated at least two of the four rules of gun safety. rsdsharp Aug 2023 #26
And just for the record when you teach gun safety which I did to boyscouts. You do not teach Demsrule86 Aug 2023 #30
Did you even read my first post? rsdsharp Aug 2023 #34
Pointing a gun at someone and pulling a trigger is the opposite of firearms safety. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #2
Exactly. Straw Man Aug 2023 #7
Article says Runions only had seatbelt violations prior to the murder. tanyev Aug 2023 #3
What do we do with people like this? Loryn Aug 2023 #5
prison waddirum Aug 2023 #29
Lock her up for a long long time. Demsrule86 Aug 2023 #31
Weird from one end to the other... Hugin Aug 2023 #6
It's an old song struggle4progress Aug 2023 #8
Poor little baby. 😭😭 herding cats Aug 2023 #9
me too. She's a monster but sounds like a 2nd degree murder situation BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 2023 #11
I don't know the answer to that, since they're not saying. herding cats Aug 2023 #13
I think she meant to kill her...why drove to Walmart...why not call for help right away. Demsrule86 Aug 2023 #32
It's definitely possible it was intentional. herding cats Aug 2023 #35
Geeze.......... Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2023 #10
I've never owned a gun but have heard about the bullet remaining in the chamber BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 2023 #12
more basically, I learned in 5th grade firearms safety class NEVER Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #14
In the Army, too. Aristus Aug 2023 #24
I literally want to throw up Deuxcents Aug 2023 #15
There's an endless supply of stupid people, and we seem to make sure every one is armed. 70sEraVet Aug 2023 #16
"Firearm safety": Failed sarisataka Aug 2023 #18
In every sense. Straw Man Aug 2023 #20
She pointed a gun at a child. Intentionally. Aristus Aug 2023 #25
I wish her defense the best of luck convincing the jury she wasn't terrorizing the little one. herding cats Aug 2023 #36
There is a very specific legal definition of premeditation. Straw Man Aug 2023 #37
SOME handguns DO have a magazine release safety. WarGamer Aug 2023 #21
Too many of the wrong people on Earth. LiberalFighter Aug 2023 #22
And yet on the Earth, this happens uniquely in one place Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #27
Sounds like she's running for the Tennessee legislature struggle4progress Aug 2023 #33
Tennessee woman charged with murder in fatal shooting of 4-year-old girl Eugene Aug 2023 #38
thanks for update. lesson, never use a gun to terrorize a kid BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 2023 #39

rsdsharp

(11,987 posts)
1. The four rules of firearms safety:
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:37 PM
Aug 2023

1. Every gun is always loaded.
2. Never point your gun at anything you don’t want to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off your trigger until your sights are on your target.
4. Always be sure of your target, and what’s behind it.

This is rank stupidity.

rsdsharp

(11,987 posts)
17. You think she wanted to kill her? I'll stand with stupid.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:58 PM
Aug 2023

That won’t be a defense to manslaughter.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
19. I think she was angry and wasn't thinking.....
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 09:18 PM
Aug 2023

I don't know the legal term for killing someone in a fit of anger, like shaking a baby or pushing someone down stairs.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
28. I think she did it on purpose...she knows guns...and left a round in the chamber? Bullshit.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 10:14 PM
Aug 2023

Lock her up. I used guns in WVA...lived in the middle of nowhere and there was a great deal of drug activity...anyway a gun saved my life. I got rid of them when I moved to the burbs and had kids.

Maru Kitteh

(31,723 posts)
23. Well she wasn't trying to NOT kill her was she? JFC. Pointed a gun and pulled the trigger.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 10:05 PM
Aug 2023

POINTED a GUN and PULLED THE TRIGGER.

If she wasn't trying to kill the child, she surely didn't give too much of a shit if she did because every action she took (and didn't take) ensured that result.


Now a baby is dead and a family gets to live forever in that gun-humper's hell.



rsdsharp

(11,987 posts)
26. She clearly violated at least two of the four rules of gun safety.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 10:11 PM
Aug 2023

That is idiocy, which caused a death for which she will be punished, but I do not see intent to kill.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
30. And just for the record when you teach gun safety which I did to boyscouts. You do not teach
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 10:37 PM
Aug 2023

them to point guns at others...as my dear old Dad used to say don't point guns at anyone and don't assume it is empty ever ever. I think she killed the kid on purpose and leaving the round in the chamber was deliberate.

Straw Man

(6,943 posts)
7. Exactly.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:47 PM
Aug 2023

It's also why some handguns have what's called a "magazine disconnect safety," meaning that when there's no magazine in the gun, it won't fire even if there's a cartridge in the chamber. The question becomes to what degree technology can save us from staggering stupidity and criminal negligence. I think the answer is "a little, sometimes."

tanyev

(49,219 posts)
3. Article says Runions only had seatbelt violations prior to the murder.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:40 PM
Aug 2023

THIS is the type of "law-abiding, responsible" person the GOP wants to be armed to the hilt.

Hugin

(37,836 posts)
6. Weird from one end to the other...
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:44 PM
Aug 2023

Why'd they drive to a Walmart parking lot before calling 911? Were they hiding something at their residence? That smells of intent more than anything else.

herding cats

(20,047 posts)
9. Poor little baby. 😭😭
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:49 PM
Aug 2023

My gut, after reading the article, says that woman was trying to terrify her and killed her in the process.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(14,106 posts)
11. me too. She's a monster but sounds like a 2nd degree murder situation
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:51 PM
Aug 2023

Who placed these poor kids with this monster?

herding cats

(20,047 posts)
13. I don't know the answer to that, since they're not saying.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:54 PM
Aug 2023

But, I do hope they're held responsible as well. Poor, little babies were being abused and one lost their life. At just 4 years old. It's indefensible.

herding cats

(20,047 posts)
35. It's definitely possible it was intentional.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 10:56 PM
Aug 2023

There's zero proof the clip was even removed. Even if it was, you should ALWAYS check to see if a shell is in the chamber. Period. Which doesn't begin to speak to the insanity (intentional terror) of placing that gun against that little girls chest and pulling the trigger, which should never ever be done. Let alone to a tiny 4 year old child to teach them "gun safety" and that's if her deranged story is to be believed.

Her story doesn't hold water and frankly stinks like a week old fish.

It reads as if she meant to terrorize the poor child and either pulled the trigger accidentally or intentionally. Either way it's sick and that little child was no doubt petrified with fear before she died.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(16,204 posts)
10. Geeze..........
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:51 PM
Aug 2023

I don't own a gun and don't intend to ever own a gun. But I learned in the Marine Corps to ALWAYS make sure the chamber is cleared. All I can say is put her away for a long, long time...........

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
14. more basically, I learned in 5th grade firearms safety class NEVER
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:55 PM
Aug 2023

even point a weapon at something you don't intend to shoot --let alone pull the trigger

Aristus

(72,121 posts)
24. In the Army, too.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 10:07 PM
Aug 2023

When we were doing rifle training, even without live ammo, every time we returned our rifles to the arms room, we had to pull back the charging handle and inspect the chamber to ensure it was empty.

That was to get us used to checking the chamber. Every. Single. Time. To make it second nature.

That’s why I’ll never trust these armchair warrior, Rambo-wannabes and their ridiculous simulacra of firearm safety classes.

You want to carry an assault rifle and undergo firearm safety training? Join the Armed Forces!

sarisataka

(22,643 posts)
18. "Firearm safety": Failed
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 08:47 PM
Aug 2023

Pointed a gun at a child and pulled the trigger. That does sound like first degree murder

Straw Man

(6,943 posts)
20. In every sense.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 09:23 PM
Aug 2023
That does sound like first degree murder.

Except that first-degree requires premeditation, doesn't it?

Aristus

(72,121 posts)
25. She pointed a gun at a child. Intentionally.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 10:09 PM
Aug 2023

She pulled the trigger intentionally.

How is that not premeditated?

herding cats

(20,047 posts)
36. I wish her defense the best of luck convincing the jury she wasn't terrorizing the little one.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 11:03 PM
Aug 2023

As this sits now it's too easy to feel she intended to terrify the little girl, if her death was intentional or not. The terror she inflicted in the little girls last moments most definitely were.

I hope they have laws on the books to make sure this level of fatal child abuse assures she never sees the light of day again. Even if they can't make murder stick, she deserves to be in prison for the rest of her demented life.

Straw Man

(6,943 posts)
37. There is a very specific legal definition of premeditation.
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 06:36 PM
Aug 2023

Here's what the Cornell Law Review says:

A premeditated intent to kill requires that the defendant had intent to kill and some willful deliberation (the defendant spent some time to reflect, deliberate, reason, or weigh their decision) to kill, rather than killing on a sudden impulse. Prior planning and deliberation are often closely intertwined.

WarGamer

(18,589 posts)
21. SOME handguns DO have a magazine release safety.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 09:40 PM
Aug 2023

Having said that, most people are taught early to NEVER point a gun at anyone, loaded or not.

Watch an experienced firearm handler... if they want to tear down a gun or clean it, whatever... they will remove the mag and rack the slide a couple times AND lock the slide BACK and visually verify no bullet in the gun.

Maru Kitteh

(31,723 posts)
27. And yet on the Earth, this happens uniquely in one place
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 10:13 PM
Aug 2023

Other countries have sick assholes too, and decidedly less gun death and murder.

Hmmmmm. wonder why.



Eugene

(67,092 posts)
38. Tennessee woman charged with murder in fatal shooting of 4-year-old girl
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 11:23 PM
Aug 2023
Tennessee woman charged with murder in fatal shooting of 4-year-old girl (Associated Press)

ROCKWOOD, Tenn. (AP) — A Tennessee woman has been charged with fatally shooting a 4-year-old girl, authorities said.

Breanna Gayle Runions, 25, was arrested Sunday in Rockwood and charged with felony murder and aggravated child abuse in the death of Evangeline Gunter, the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation said in a statement.

Runions told investigators she was trying to demonstrate gun safety when she pulled the trigger, news outlets reported, citing an arrest warrant.


https://apnews.com/article/woman-charged-girl-shot-rockwood-tennessee-d8a40b65293679598af3fdbc39f94bef
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