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malaise

(296,101 posts)
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:41 PM Aug 2023

Eighteen years ago right here on DU we were watching Hurricane Katrina

as it approached those states in the Gulf of Mexico and devastated NOLA

Hurricane Katrina was a devastating Category 5 Atlantic hurricane that resulted in 1,836 fatalities and caused damage estimated between $97.4 billion to $145.5 billion in late August 2005, particularly in the city of New Orleans and its surrounding areas.



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Eighteen years ago right here on DU we were watching Hurricane Katrina (Original Post) malaise Aug 2023 OP
The immediate aftermath of Katrina, the chaos and lack of info, Drum Aug 2023 #1
I joined the year before just before the presidential elections malaise Aug 2023 #4
Chaos Roy Rolling Aug 2023 #31
Gilbert was my big one malaise Aug 2023 #37
Brownie was doing a heckofa job SouthernDem4ever Aug 2023 #16
The horrors seemed endless. blm Aug 2023 #2
wow... 18 years! BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 2023 #3
That Brownie; Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2023 #5
My favorite post- Katrina moment malaise Aug 2023 #6
Same. I'm pretty sure that guy came and posted on DU NYC Liberal Aug 2023 #60
Yes he did malaise Aug 2023 #62
I was watching that mess and tragedy from Iraq roscoeroscoe Aug 2023 #7
just bumped into this the other day- mopinko Aug 2023 #8
I bought Spike Lee's DVDs for the documentary When the Levees Broke malaise Aug 2023 #11
I was watching that mess and tragedy from Iraq roscoeroscoe Aug 2023 #9
Must have been seriously painful malaise Aug 2023 #12
I lived in south Mississippi at that time. Glorfindel Aug 2023 #10
The worst part is being unable to contact family malaise Aug 2023 #13
I remember. I'd joined DU just a few weeks before you did in highplainsdem Aug 2023 #14
He'll get what's coming his way one of these days malaise Aug 2023 #18
My kids ended up thinking I was prescient. hunter Aug 2023 #15
You were malaise Aug 2023 #17
I thought the same thing when I was there in '98 oldsoftie Aug 2023 #20
Hubby used to say, "Never live in New Orleans. " LeftInTX Aug 2023 #61
This song by Chris Chandler and D.R Rowe always brings tears to my eyes cannabis_flower Aug 2023 #19
Too sad malaise Aug 2023 #23
Bush Caused the flooding of New Orleans azureblue Aug 2023 #21
+1 peppertree Aug 2023 #25
Correct malaise Aug 2023 #35
We were in the midst of it AverageOldGuy Aug 2023 #22
Damn malaise Aug 2023 #36
Bay St. Louis was ground zero for Katrina. intheflow Aug 2023 #40
Katrina smashed and flooded Mississippi south coast. Wiped a gouge out of txwhitedove Aug 2023 #24
i discovered du quite by accident and been here ever since the year 2000 al gore gaffe. AllaN01Bear Aug 2023 #26
i was watching cnn..one of the news readers..i believe it was cooper...said and i repeat dawn5651 Aug 2023 #27
CNN had just finished watching me. carpetbagger Aug 2023 #28
I just remember justgamma Aug 2023 #32
I remember comments like those malaise Aug 2023 #38
This one seems to be following the track of Hurricane Michael Warpy Aug 2023 #29
Heckuva Job Brownie Martin Eden Aug 2023 #30
I remember being glued to the tv justgamma Aug 2023 #33
I first lurked here when... Whatthe_Firetruck Aug 2023 #34
Good to see you posting malaise Aug 2023 #39
I remember that very well vercetti2021 Aug 2023 #41
Wow malaise Aug 2023 #42
Yep vercetti2021 Aug 2023 #43
LOL malaise Aug 2023 #44
As you expect vercetti2021 Aug 2023 #45
If I could start my life again malaise Aug 2023 #46
Yeah vercetti2021 Aug 2023 #58
Hearing, and seeing all the news about it was awful! electric_blue68 Aug 2023 #47
I was here! Nictuku Aug 2023 #48
Weren't we all malaise Aug 2023 #50
that was when the scales came off of many people's eyes re: Bush Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #49
Iraq did it for me malaise Aug 2023 #53
him running did it for me; first time I ever voted was 2000 Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #54
He was owned by the plutocrats malaise Aug 2023 #55
Ugly racist comments MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2023 #51
Horrible racists malaise Aug 2023 #52
I remember it well. DUers reported in real time & it was maddening. My VFP friends were planning Hekate Aug 2023 #56
Caught a piece of a tv documentary just a few nights ago... Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2023 #57
I watched it on TV. In the morning everything looked OK. LeftInTX Aug 2023 #59
can't believe it's been 18 years already. wow. n/t msfiddlestix Aug 2023 #63
Same here malaise Aug 2023 #64
under dumbya's reign of terror msfiddlestix Aug 2023 #65
That's the absolute truth malaise Aug 2023 #66

Drum

(10,678 posts)
1. The immediate aftermath of Katrina, the chaos and lack of info,
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:45 PM
Aug 2023

are what led me to discover DU…and I’ve never looked back.

Love you all

malaise

(296,101 posts)
4. I joined the year before just before the presidential elections
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:46 PM
Aug 2023

Found DU on Salon and never looked back

Roy Rolling

(7,632 posts)
31. Chaos
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 10:28 PM
Aug 2023

I lived through Katrina, lost friends and neighbors. The darkness and quiet at night afterwards was what I remember. And then the sounds of helicopters flying overhead all day long.

Thank you world for your support. Having that help made Katrina a little better.

Now we’re ready to pass that along to every new disaster and victim. I don’t forget. 😎

malaise

(296,101 posts)
37. Gilbert was my big one
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 06:50 AM
Aug 2023

And that was tame compared with Katrina. It made me appreciate simple things including cool water and a cold beer- a shower and food in the fridge. And of course wonderful friends and neighbors.

NYC Liberal

(20,453 posts)
60. Same. I'm pretty sure that guy came and posted on DU
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 11:56 PM
Aug 2023

after that. I can’t remember his username though.

roscoeroscoe

(1,825 posts)
7. I was watching that mess and tragedy from Iraq
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 08:00 PM
Aug 2023

There we were watching on the TVs in the dining facility in Tikrit Iraq. Some of us with family there.

That was a dark time.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
8. just bumped into this the other day-
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 08:01 PM
Aug 2023

starts out w katrina. just a couple minutes.
the rest is infuriating, too.

malaise

(296,101 posts)
11. I bought Spike Lee's DVDs for the documentary When the Levees Broke
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 08:10 PM
Aug 2023

That hurricane was a heartbreaker - a horrific natural disaster made worse by a disaster of an administration.

roscoeroscoe

(1,825 posts)
9. I was watching that mess and tragedy from Iraq
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 08:05 PM
Aug 2023

There we were watching on the TVs in the dining facility in Tikrit Iraq. Some of us with family there.

That was a dark time.

Glorfindel

(10,175 posts)
10. I lived in south Mississippi at that time.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 08:06 PM
Aug 2023

I was home in north Georgia visiting relatives for my birthday and Labor Day when Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast. I couldn't contact anyone in south MS for about three weeks. Finally got through and found out that everyone I knew was OK and my home and car were still there. Caught a plane from Atlanta to Houston and from Houston to Jackson, MS. A cousin of my employer picked me up in Jackson and took me home to Wiggins, MS. A very worrisome and heartbreaking time. I never want to live through anything like that again.

malaise

(296,101 posts)
13. The worst part is being unable to contact family
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 08:13 PM
Aug 2023

Of course the devastation and dislocation is always unbearable

highplainsdem

(62,141 posts)
14. I remember. I'd joined DU just a few weeks before you did in
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 08:31 PM
Aug 2023

October 2004.

So many lives lost tragically, so damn much damage, and such a botched response from the Bush administration.

Thank God Biden is in the White House now.

But dammit, DeSantis in Florida...

hunter

(40,690 posts)
15. My kids ended up thinking I was prescient.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 08:41 PM
Aug 2023

We were visiting New Orleans and the surrounding areas the month before. I told them these places wouldn't be here for long.

In my head I was thinking "in their lifetimes."

One of the hotels we stayed at was obliterated by Katrina, the entire roof torn away and the lower floor flooded.

So was an entire community.

Sometimes they write about it.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
20. I thought the same thing when I was there in '98
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 09:13 PM
Aug 2023

When I saw waterways were actually HIGHER than the road I was driving on, I asked the guy driving us "How long before all this just collapses?" He said "Oh, we have pumps"

LeftInTX

(34,294 posts)
61. Hubby used to say, "Never live in New Orleans. "
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 12:05 AM
Aug 2023

"All it takes is one nasty storm and it will be under water"

azureblue

(2,728 posts)
21. Bush Caused the flooding of New Orleans
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 09:18 PM
Aug 2023

February 2001
Bush’s first budget proposed more than half a billion dollars worth of cuts to the Army Corps of Engineers for the 2002 fiscal year. Bush proposed half of what his own officials said was necessary for the critical Southeast Louisiana Flood Control Project (SELA)—a project started after a 1995 rainstorm flooded 25,000 homes and caused a half billion dollars in damage.

Bush did this to offset the tax break he gave to the top 1% of rich Americans. The first major economic initiative pursued by the president was a massive tax cut for the rich, enacted in June of 2001. Bush signed his massive $1.3 trillion income tax cut into law-a tax cut that severely depleted the government of revenues it needed to address critical priorities.

February 2002
Bush provided just $5 million for maintaining and upgrading critical hurricane protection levees in New Orleans—one fifth of what government experts and Republican elected officials in Louisiana told the administration was needed. Bush knew SELA needed $80 million to keep working, but the he only proposed providing a quarter of that.

During 2002, contractors working to raise the St. Charles Parish hurricane protection levee north of Airline Hwy had to use their own funds because Congress and the President provided only $2,000,000 for the entire Lake Pontchartrain and Vicinity project, which includes all the hurricane protection levees in St. Charles, Jefferson, Orleans and St. Bernard Parishes.

February 2004
The SELA project sought $100 million to repair the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain levees, but Bush offered only $16.5 million. The Army Corps of Engineers asked for $27 million to pay for hurricane protection upgrades around Lake Pontchartrain—but the White House cut that to $3.9 million. Gaps in levees around Lake Pontchartrain & the Industrial Canal, which were supposed to be filled by 2004, were not filled because of budget shortfalls. Repair work on the levees, including the ones that failed, was stopped due to lack of funds.

peppertree

(23,343 posts)
25. +1
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 09:28 PM
Aug 2023

History can be very eloquent - and you certainly were too.

Thank you for that essential recap.

AverageOldGuy

(3,835 posts)
22. We were in the midst of it
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 09:21 PM
Aug 2023

In January 2005, Sweet Thing and I moved from East Tennessee to the Mississippi Gulf Coast -- to the village of Bay St. Louis MS. We bought two lots and were building two houses, one for ourselves, one for my parents (she had lost her parents several years before).

We had the foundation in on one lot and the lumber for framing the house had been delivered. The other house had not yet been started. We were living in a small apartment about 100 yards from the beach with most of our belongings in a storage building in Pass Christian MS, about ten minutes away; the rest of our belongings were in storage in Tennessee.

Katrina came in Sunday night; Sunday morning we gathered up my elderly aunt and uncle (he was dying on stomach cancer); their daughter (my cousin), her dog and her 75-year-old boyfriend. We fled to central MS where Sweet Thing's cousin had a hunting camp in the midst of a pine forest.

We have a lot of Katrina stories but the bottom line is: Everything in storage was lost; the apartment was flooded up about 30 inches off the floor, we salvaged some furniture; all the lumber was gone, washed out into the Gulf. For miles and miles, nothing was standing -- not a house, not a tree, the storm surge took it all, left only foundations where houses had been.

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
40. Bay St. Louis was ground zero for Katrina.
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 07:07 AM
Aug 2023

Everyone only remembers NOLA, but those of us who worked long-term recovery in MS know MS experienced a natural disaster while NOLA had a civil engineering failure.

txwhitedove

(4,385 posts)
24. Katrina smashed and flooded Mississippi south coast. Wiped a gouge out of
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 09:27 PM
Aug 2023

main road along the beach in Bay St Louis, and flooded up past I-10. I was living there and went to ride out hurricane at my daughter's house just up a dirt road from the beach and the bridge to Pass Christian. We couldn't go anywhere cause there had already been several tropical storms that season to flee from but end up stuck in traffic, with two kids, two dogs, and no money. It was surreal, loud, horrible. Got scary before the eye hit us when the Gulfport news heads broke away, we were suddenly watching news from Baton Rouge. That went on for 20-30 minutes. When Gulfport station came back on, news people looked blank with eyes popping out. Much more to this story, but hey it was a genuine Amen moment when I walked back to my house with my little dog and sucked under my arm so she didn't get into downed power lines.

I hope the best for all in the path of a hurricane.

PS, Malaise, thanks for noting it was a Cat 5, because many tried to downgrade that monster afterward.

AllaN01Bear

(29,490 posts)
26. i discovered du quite by accident and been here ever since the year 2000 al gore gaffe.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 09:29 PM
Aug 2023

i had the handle allan01 untill the great hack of 2016 and we had to change our handles . i changed my handle to allan01bear and been there ever since. i had a friend who was in new oreleans when that storm hit and lost everything. the authorities asked if he wanted a one way ticket out and he jumped . he thinks he may have ptsd from that event. hated when the elected officials , the police bailed and left people stranded at the super dome . gah.this is one of the storms that the rs denied happening along w superstorm sandy.

dawn5651

(774 posts)
27. i was watching cnn..one of the news readers..i believe it was cooper...said and i repeat
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 09:29 PM
Aug 2023

white folks look for food while black folks loot....that was the most disgusting comment that i ever heard about any natural disaster...nola was a mess..i was there about 4 years after katrina i took a lot of pictures...it is a film i have never developed and never will. the level of devastation was almost unimagineable and i have zero wish to revisit those pictures.

carpetbagger

(5,484 posts)
28. CNN had just finished watching me.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 10:05 PM
Aug 2023

I left the Crawford protests the night before it hit, camped in the ditch right in front of where Ed Lavandera's truck was. But hadn't heard one word about the hurricane from Friday night until I left Sunday night.

justgamma

(3,693 posts)
32. I just remember
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 10:41 PM
Aug 2023

them holding up 2 newspapers with pictures and captions showing that. White folks scavenging for food and black folks looting.

malaise

(296,101 posts)
38. I remember comments like those
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 06:52 AM
Aug 2023

But I also remembered when they separated our men from our women

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
29. This one seems to be following the track of Hurricane Michael
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 10:08 PM
Aug 2023

which was predicted to be a Cat. 3 or so but now is generally agreed to have been a Cat. 5 when it struck the Florida panhandle.

Looks like this one is following the same route, only the Gulf is even hotter now than it was in 2018.

justgamma

(3,693 posts)
33. I remember being glued to the tv
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 10:45 PM
Aug 2023

watching the devastation while Shrub was prancing around on stage pretending to play a guitar at Sen. McCain's birthday bash.

 

vercetti2021

(10,481 posts)
41. I remember that very well
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 07:43 AM
Aug 2023

During the time we were transitioning away from cable to satellite TV and antenna TV still had the Weather Channel at the time. So I was glued to that coverage back when I watched Big Brother live streams on the computer at the same time. I was 15 at the time

 

vercetti2021

(10,481 posts)
43. Yep
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 08:02 AM
Aug 2023

9th grade. Back then I still had a desire to be a meteorologist so any weather event I was watching it quite a bit.

malaise

(296,101 posts)
46. If I could start my life again
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 09:40 AM
Aug 2023

I’d own a restaurant. My folks insisted on books and a profession, but my first love was cooking, baking or looking after dogs.
Then a family friend hit my puppy and he died so there went any dreams of becoming a vet.

 

vercetti2021

(10,481 posts)
58. Yeah
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 10:36 PM
Aug 2023

I'd love to own my own coffee shop myself. Just make it a safe space for people. My mom wanted to be a vet, but felt she couldn't handle all the pets passing

Nictuku

(4,658 posts)
48. I was here!
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 05:44 PM
Aug 2023

I was just a newbie. I had discovered DU shortly after Bush's election in 2004, and I remember how upset I was over the government reaction to Katrina.

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
49. that was when the scales came off of many people's eyes re: Bush
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 06:27 PM
Aug 2023

Bush and lackeys were saying everything is fine in New Orleans while we say cameras showing something far worse. Suddenly, many started saying, "Are they lying about how Iraq is going too?

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
54. him running did it for me; first time I ever voted was 2000
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 08:45 PM
Aug 2023

was so upset--remember watching stupid Enron commercials about nothing in 99 and 2000 and them seeing Bush was being backed by them.

Was a Clinton supporter in 90's but didn't vote until Bush v Gore.

malaise

(296,101 posts)
55. He was owned by the plutocrats
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 08:49 PM
Aug 2023

A genuine dumbfuck and a war criminal to boot. 😀😉

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,511 posts)
51. Ugly racist comments
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 08:17 PM
Aug 2023

And Barbara Bush saying poor (Black) folks stuck in the Houston Astrodome were, "underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them."


https://mediaproxy.snopes.com/width/1200/

malaise

(296,101 posts)
52. Horrible racists
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 08:19 PM
Aug 2023

It was the lead up to Slobby’s America.
There were many racists in the media as well

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
56. I remember it well. DUers reported in real time & it was maddening. My VFP friends were planning
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 08:50 PM
Aug 2023

…a trip cross country to DC for the protests, and detoured to Covington (?) to set up a kitchen for evacuees. Our chapter donated everything we could from our treasury and from our personal wallets.

I will never forget.


Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
57. Caught a piece of a tv documentary just a few nights ago...
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 08:56 PM
Aug 2023

It showed the U.S. Coast Guard and their long, heroic efforts to save people.

There were lots of heroes in the aftermath, in spite of Brownie's and Duhbyuh's incompetence.

LeftInTX

(34,294 posts)
59. I watched it on TV. In the morning everything looked OK.
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 11:55 PM
Aug 2023

I then drove from San Antonio to Kerrville to visit my son. (60 miles north)


On the way home, I kept looking east and looking for storm clouds. I didn't see any.


NO is about 500 miles away.

But we sure got them from Gilbert!


I think I heard something about a barge and some street flooding, but I had to get over to Kerrville. Came home, turned on the TV and OMG.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
65. under dumbya's reign of terror
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 08:51 AM
Aug 2023

who could have imagined at the time, our country could be headed by anything worse than merely stupid and corrupt?

who could have imagined at the time, we'd end up with the likes of the psycho in chief who is still menacing our nation today?

malaise

(296,101 posts)
66. That's the absolute truth
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 09:49 AM
Aug 2023

Who could imagine anyone worse - dumb, incompetent, corrupt, cruel and insane

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