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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:46 AM Nov 2012

The Mind-blowing Hypocrisy of John McCain: WMD Lie is Good, Repeating Intelligence is Bad



Hypocrisy alert: John McCain supported Condoleeza Rice who misled the public on WMD, causing thousands to die, but now attacks Susan Rice.






Remember when Condoleezza Rice misled the public about Iraq’s WMDs and over 4,000 Americans died? John McCain doesn’t seem to. McCain is trying to sell the idea that Susan Rice appearing on TV to tell the American people what the intelligence community had ascertained about Libya on September 18 was wrong. She should have chosen not to speak on the subject without more certainty, he and Lindsay Graham claim. Yet, Susan Rice’s statement made it clear that things were not certain. Here, once again, is her statement to the media on September 18 (emphasis mine):




RICE: Well, first of all, Chris, we are obviously investigating this very closely. The FBI has a lead in this investigation. The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack… Obviously, we will wait for the results of the investigation and we don’t want to jump to conclusions before then. But I do think it’s important for the American people to know our best current assessment.




Later, when the intelligence community updated their information, we learned that perhaps things didn’t go down as they first thought. Here’s a shocker for Republicans: Now there are reports saying that it might have had something to do with the video after all. The lesson here is that it takes time to gather the information. The Obama administration wanted to give the public the information it had on that date in September, and they continued to update us as they learned more. You can’t know what you don’t know yet. This is not hard to understand.




What is hard to understand is that as National Security Adviser, Condoleezza Rice made a public case for the Iraq war based on what was misleading information. John McCain later supported her confirmation as Secretary of State in 2005 and said that anyone who questioned her integrity did so for political reasons. McCain lectured, “We can disagree on policy and we disagree on a lot of things, but I think it is very clear that Condoleezza Rice is a person of integrity. And yes, I see this, some lingering bitterness over a very tough campaign.” Oh, do tell, Senator. Back in 2002, Bush officials made the rounds on TV to claim that Iraq was accumulating high-strength aluminum tubes. Condoleezza Rice said the tubes “are only really suited for nuclear weapons programs, centrifuge programs.” Rice told CNN, “We don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.” There was no proof that Iraq had nuclear weapons and there was, in fact, intelligence to the contrary.



Here is Condoleezza Rice making the case for war with Iraq September 8, 2002:

BLITZER: Dr. Rice, is there any hard evidence directly linking the Iraqi government to al Qaeda and the 9/11 terror attacks against the United States?

RICE: There is certainly evidence that al Qaeda people have been in Iraq. There is certainly evidence that Saddam Hussein cavorts with terrorists… We know that he is acquiring weapons of mass destruction, that he has extreme animous against the United States.




Republicans now claim that everyone thought the intelligence case was strong against Iraq, but that’s not accurate. There are numerous accounts of analysts who disagreed, and even a former chief of the CIA’s Europe division told 60 Minutes that CIA Director George Tenet had reported to Rice and other administration officials that Iraq had no active weapons of mass destruction program, courtesy of Iraq’s foreign minister (who agreed to act as a spy for the United States).







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http://www.politicususa.com/mindblowing-hypocrisy-john-mccain-wmd-lie-good-repeating-intelligence-bad.html


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The Mind-blowing Hypocrisy of John McCain: WMD Lie is Good, Repeating Intelligence is Bad (Original Post) Segami Nov 2012 OP
Hypocrite and Republican are interchangeable terms. hobbit709 Nov 2012 #1
'Republicrite'!!! Segami Nov 2012 #2
like! ceeRoy Nov 2012 #18
Hey, if these hypocrites want us to dredge up the horrible past of the Bush administration, by all myrna minx Nov 2012 #3
Oh, lets be very careful with that thought,.. Segami Nov 2012 #4
You're ceeRoy Nov 2012 #20
McCain should go back on Saturday Night Live. Major Hogwash Nov 2012 #5
We John2 Nov 2012 #6
Chuck Turd is making this very point on MSNBC! Hubert Flottz Nov 2012 #7
I heard that. He was defending Susan Rice OKNancy Nov 2012 #11
This asshole has about as much credibility as Lindsay Graham these days. EnviroBat Nov 2012 #8
McCane should be made to The Wizard Nov 2012 #9
John McCain is a tired, cranky old man. He should go get some sleep. - n/t Jim__ Nov 2012 #10
I am continually amazed edhopper Nov 2012 #12
Let's retire him in 2016 struggle4progress Nov 2012 #13
from war hero to political zero. he's pathetic. spanone Nov 2012 #14
I take exception to him being declared a war hero. olegramps Nov 2012 #16
Not a hero @ all 4 more years Nov 2012 #17
I couldn't agree more. Well said. Bainbridge Bear Nov 2012 #23
It is time for Gramps to retire Bainbridge Bear Nov 2012 #21
He is a spoiled, partisan, hack! Nothing more needs to be said! Dustlawyer Nov 2012 #15
The bastard... DirtyDawg Nov 2012 #19
His goal is to change the news cycle! HenryWallace Nov 2012 #22
Bing! New shiny object to be awed. Segami Nov 2012 #24
John McKain is a legend in his own mind... ReRe Nov 2012 #25
I heard it explain this way... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2012 #26
Thanks! I was wanting to sit down and write something like this ! nt eppur_se_muova Nov 2012 #27

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
3. Hey, if these hypocrites want us to dredge up the horrible past of the Bush administration, by all
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:53 AM
Nov 2012

means, let us be reminded of all of the lies, deception and corrpution of the Bushies that they supported versus the high integrity of this administration. Their hypocracy is awe inspiring.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
4. Oh, lets be very careful with that thought,..
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:12 AM
Nov 2012
I would hate to see bloated brother Jeb come out and start preaching to us about the need to stop picking on his sweet brother George. Bring it on Jeb, the world awaits to hear you defend your bro for his crimes. Short of you coming out and throwing Chimpy under the bus for his crimes (never gonna happen), you have nothing more to say whatsoever!


As for McCain, he needs to STFU!

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
5. McCain should go back on Saturday Night Live.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:15 AM
Nov 2012

He was more honest on that program than he is on the floor of the Senate!!

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
6. We
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:38 AM
Nov 2012

can open up investigations and see how many Repukes and their allies retreat. And yeah, maybe the American people need to know the truth about the Bush neocon Administration instead of shoving everything under the rug. It did cause thousands of innocent Americans' to die.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
7. Chuck Turd is making this very point on MSNBC!
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:07 AM
Nov 2012

Looks like Chuck has a bad taste in his mouth.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
11. I heard that. He was defending Susan Rice
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:39 AM
Nov 2012

Surprised, but I guess he knows which way the wind is blowing. ( there's a joke there somewhere)

EnviroBat

(5,290 posts)
8. This asshole has about as much credibility as Lindsay Graham these days.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:25 AM
Nov 2012

I'm getting really fed up with these toilet clogs criticizing our President and his staff. I hope the find themselves severely unemployed in the mid-terms...

edhopper

(37,519 posts)
12. I am continually amazed
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:43 AM
Nov 2012

that a man who has been completely wrong about every foriegn policy issue in the last 30 years is treated as an elder statesman who's opinion is worthwhile.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
16. I take exception to him being declared a war hero.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:13 AM
Nov 2012

I fell sorry for anyone who was a prisoner of war in North Vietnam. But, just because you are a prisoner doesn't seem to qualify as being a hero. I suppose if this was the case every person that we took prisoner during wars should be declared a hero. I thought that being a hero was reserved for a person who despite his own safety did something above the call for duty. I actually have very little respect for McCain. He is a prime example of a spoiled privileged brat. He got into the Naval Academy because of father and grandfather admirals. Allegedly he would have been kick out if not for the intervention of his father and then he graduated in the bottom 1% of his class. He was at best a lousy pilot. When he returned home after a horrible confinement to discover that his wife who had prayed incessantly for his wellbeing had been crippled in a car accident. He divorced her. So much for that in sickness or in health. His only claim to fame is that he married a wealthy drug addict who bought him a seat in congress. He doesn't qualify for being a hero in my estimation. Just what in the hell has he done that is so exceptional?

4 more years

(101 posts)
17. Not a hero @ all
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:29 AM
Nov 2012

Lets see country FIRST and he put Palin within a heart beat away from the job he wanted. This guy should STFU.

 

Bainbridge Bear

(155 posts)
23. I couldn't agree more. Well said.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:49 AM
Nov 2012

McCain has been coasting on a reputation that he does NOT deserve which says a lot about his lack of character. And, he WAS a lousy pilot. I believe he crashed several planes.

 

Bainbridge Bear

(155 posts)
21. It is time for Gramps to retire
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:45 AM
Nov 2012

After all, he can't even remember how many houses he and his wife own.

 

DirtyDawg

(802 posts)
19. The bastard...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:33 AM
Nov 2012

...has simply turned into a senile old fart. I can't believe that that I ever had any respect for him - 2000. Then again a closer look at his military record - piss-poor pilot that crashed a number of planes even before he got his ass shot down in North Vietnam...was saved from drowning (couldn't even bail out properly, thus getting his shoulders busted) by folks he had just been bombing...then weenied-out while in captivity and told em what they wanted him to say - so they tortured him, lots of others were too without breaking. Point is, we can call it senility but the fact is this pissant has been a weasel all his life. Oh yeah, didn't even mention that he got his fighter-pilot slot regardless that he finished near the bottom of his class (Daddy and Grandaddy were Admirals) and that he dumped his wife - horribly injured in an auto accident - for a rich-bitch daughter of a Budweiser distributor. Guess I owe an apology to weasels.

 

HenryWallace

(332 posts)
22. His goal is to change the news cycle!
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:46 AM
Nov 2012

With huge mandatory military cuts looming, they attack the nation’s lead diplomat; not very surprising!

The avalanche of news regarding decadent military leaders doesn’t bode well for the maintenance of our bloated military industrial complex.

They would be barking at the moon if it would change the current narrative.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
24. Bing! New shiny object to be awed.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:52 AM
Nov 2012


Their rethug playbook is outdated like just like McCain.

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
25. John McKain is a legend in his own mind...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:58 AM
Nov 2012

.... but has absolutely NO credibility to stand on. Lies are good, truth is bad, and I bet you he can't even remember where all of his 5 houses are, to boot. The man is loony-toons!

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
26. I heard it explain this way...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:01 PM
Nov 2012

The Rs want discredit Susan Rice because they are hoping John Kerry leaves the Senate. Upon doing so, Scott Brown is waiting in the wings for Kerry's seat.

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