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usonian

(26,615 posts)
Sat Sep 2, 2023, 11:25 PM Sep 2023

Elon Musk Ponders Twitter Poll on Banning ADL From 'Free Speech' Site

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-ponders-twitter-poll-on-banning-adl-from-free-speech-site-after-bantheadl-trends
The supposed free-speech warrior, who has reversed the Twitter bans of racist and antisemitic accounts, is now considering booting the civil rights group from the site.

Justin Baragona
Senior Media Reporter
Updated Sep. 02, 2023 6:21PM EDT

Days after boosting an antisemitic campaign to ban the Anti-Defamation League from X, owner and self-described “free-speech absolutist” Elon Musk proposed polling the social media platform’s users on booting the civil rights advocacy group from the site formerly known as Twitter.


The initial impetus behind the campaign appears to be a meeting ADL president Jonathan Greenblatt had with Twitter/X CEO Linda Yaccarino about addressing the rampant hate speech on the site. After Greenblatt tweeted about their “very frank + productive conversation,” a number of prominent right-wing accounts pushed the hashtag #BanTheADL while claiming the group was stifling free speech.

Musk eventually engaged with Keith Woods, a YouTuber with connections to notorious white supremacists Nick Fuentes and Richard Spencer. Besides liking a post in which Woods said the ADL is “financially blackmailing social media companies into removing free speech on their platform,” Musk also replied that the “ADL has tried very hard to strangle X/Twitter.”

While Musk’s feud with the ADL has been going on for a while now, it ramped up this spring when the group called him out for comparing philanthropist George Soros—a long-standing boogeyman of the antisemitic right—to comic-book supervillain Magneto. After the organization said Musk’s behavior could embolden extremists, the edgelord billionaire replied that they should “just drop the ‘A’” from ADL.


There you go. When you're a nazi symp, Anti-Defamation is Defamation.
I hate San Francisco Nazis

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Elon Musk Ponders Twitter Poll on Banning ADL From 'Free Speech' Site (Original Post) usonian Sep 2023 OP
So glad to be out of there. madaboutharry Sep 2023 #1
Another reason to leave this cesspool. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2023 #2
There's no separating Musk from his bigotry. You support him, you support his bigotry. Solly Mack Sep 2023 #3
Last month was the anniversary of the lynching of Leo Frank MistakenLamb Sep 2023 #4
Musk hates Jews and the ADL LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #5
"Woke mind virus". WTF does that even mean? Initech Sep 2023 #7
What a colossal fucking asshole. Initech Sep 2023 #6
It was kind of painful to post this because I find prejudice completely detestable. usonian Sep 2023 #8
Musk wants a right wing circle jerk echo chamber Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2023 #9
Damn steep price to pay for it. usonian Sep 2023 #10

madaboutharry

(42,037 posts)
1. So glad to be out of there.
Sat Sep 2, 2023, 11:32 PM
Sep 2023

It was always a sewer, now it qualifies as a Toxic Superfund Site.

Solly Mack

(97,278 posts)
3. There's no separating Musk from his bigotry. You support him, you support his bigotry.
Sun Sep 3, 2023, 12:49 AM
Sep 2023

Same as with any bigot. People don't get to pick and choose what aspect of his personality or even his accomplishments they would rather highlight and declare they admire one but abhor the other. To admire a bigot for any reason is to enable a bigot's bigotry. You embolden the bigot when you praise a bigot. Regardless of what you are praising.

To suggest tolerance for accomplishment over the damage caused as a necessary evil is to say bigotry is a necessary evil that comes along with any good that might be derived, and that people must simply accept the bad.

Which is a fine and dandy apologia...

Unless you're the target of the bigot's attacks.

MistakenLamb

(791 posts)
4. Last month was the anniversary of the lynching of Leo Frank
Sun Sep 3, 2023, 04:25 AM
Sep 2023

The injustice given to Leo Frank helped lead to its creation, the rampant and blatant anti-Semitism and anti-ADL rhetoric was promoted on X. Anti Semites fucking love using Leo Frank to attack Jews. If you tried to report it is was ignored. X is no different than a Munich beer hall in the 1920s now

usonian

(26,615 posts)
8. It was kind of painful to post this because I find prejudice completely detestable.
Sun Sep 3, 2023, 02:29 PM
Sep 2023

The term "Woke" appears to be their disdain for very simple rules of life and a feeling of "privilege" to break them.

What are the rules, in short?

I did some research on cults, and found similarities to mafia behavior, familiar to me from gangster movies (many are based on fact). Nazi and other fascist movements follow the same general practices. Such cults "legitimize" breaking laws and cultural norms, and they "privilege" theft, hate, violence, racism, lies and so on. They are ultimately self-destructive and benefit only the "bosses", but the underlings, who refer to others as "schmucks" are attracted by the privilege they feel.

They live vicariously through one Shitler or another. They are not really alive.
More: https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18061963

Life, according to mystics, follows a simple rule, variously stated.

What you do to others, you do to yourself.

From Cherie Carter-Scott - If Life Is a Game, These Are the Rules
Rule 7

OTHERS ARE ONLY MIRRORS OF YOU
You cannot love or hate something about another person unless it reflects something you love or hate about yourself.
More: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18055779

Weak people project their fears, inadequacy and failures onto others. So they think.
"Woke" people are awakened to the laws of life, and with their inner light and strength, raise others up to their level, rather than trying to cut others down to size.
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usonian

(26,615 posts)
10. Damn steep price to pay for it.
Sun Sep 3, 2023, 02:51 PM
Sep 2023

No surprise, Alwaleed is the second largest shareholder in Twitter
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2022/10/31/saudi-prince-alwaleed-becomes-twitters-second-largest-shareholder/?sh=a5cc53c523ab

I still think he's money laundering. He lost a staggering amount of money, and staying in business while annihilating money is a familiar pattern. Then, there's the king of money laundering ... golf courses, resorts

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