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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWould you be in favor of a full investigation and hearings of Benghazi?
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| Yes, the truth must be revealed, good or bad | |
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| Yes, I think something smells fishy about the whole business | |
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| No, it is a political game by the GOP and there is no "there", there | |
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| No, I am willing to let this slide, don't want the Democrats to possibly look bad or found at fault | |
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| Something else (explain) | |
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ProSense
(116,464 posts)more than a dozen embassy attacks under Bush.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021330541
People are pushing this idiotic RW angle as if there is some nefarious actions involving the administration. It was a fucking attack.
On edit, the matter is being looked into at this very moment.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)using the Ambassador's death to hype a witchhunt is despicable. Attacks happen, and people die, tragically.
Williamson served as an official under President George W. Bush. Numerous deadly attacks on diplomatic compounds in countries like Pakistan, Yemen and Syria took place during the Bush administration. When countries around the world were engulfed in protests over Danish cartoons depicting the prophet Muhammad, the Bush administration condemned the material as unacceptable even as it repeated the United Statess dedication to free speech.
The United Nations, where Williamson served as a diplomat, suffered a massive attack in 2003 when a truck bomb in Iraq killed 22 people including the U.N.s top envoy to the country at the organizations headquarters. The international body withdrew nearly its entire staff from the country for several years.
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http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/romney-adviser-under-president-romney-libya-attack-never-would-have-happened.php
The fact that it was a top-level official warrants getting to the bottom of what happened for security purposes, and that is ongoing.
Still, the underlying premise of the hype to launch a massive investigation is that there was a failure on the administration's part.
You have people making up conspiracy theories to justify a witchhunt. It's bullshit!
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)If Republicans are in charge they will be investigating Susan Rice. The people that were murdered to see if they somehow provoked the attack. They will investigate what Obama had for breakfast that morning. What they will not investigate is whether or not their budget cuts to defending our embassies and consulates had anything to do with what went wrong. They won't investigate what the chain of command did. Nope they will only investigate Democrats and people appointed by a Democratic President.
Stinky The Clown
(68,952 posts)Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
Myrina
(12,296 posts)n/t
JohnnyLib2
(11,333 posts)pansypoo53219
(23,034 posts)were THEY investigated FULLY? can you say WHITEWATER??????
Hissyspit
(45,790 posts)the Bush administration.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I do believe exposing the indisputable truth backed by facts here will backfire on the Repubs and expose it for the political ruse that it is.
Initech
(108,783 posts)I think the truth about the massive security fuck up will be ignored for the most part. It will be just an extension of the birther movement - no matter how much evidence or facts are presented the GOP will simply ignore it.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)It always does and even though the BIG LIE may make it on to the media, over and over, it will be discredited. The birther movement has already been discredited. Obama's huge victory in this election is proof of that.
DCKit
(18,541 posts)Fastest way to get the Repubs to back off and STFU.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)CBHagman
(17,493 posts)But that was already in progress and will no doubt continue.
Senators McCain, Ayotte, and Graham, though, went too far in asking for a Watergate/Iran-contra style committee.
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)Obama & DEMS need to focus on jobs and off-shoring, not this nonsense.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)up being more embarrassing to the insane rightwingnuttery than it will be to the President or Amb. Rice. Also, I suspect it will end much like Fast and Furious did and I want to the opportunity to feast on that schadenfreude!
A full investigation. So when it is found out that neither the President nor anyone in his Administration did anyting devious, the GOP look like the asses they are.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)But how will we know that for sure without an investigation?
Spazito
(55,504 posts)There are Senate hearings, investigations wrt the CIA response, etc.
It seems to me your post is more in line with what the repubs are putting forward than the reality, I'm sure that implication was not what you intended but it is how it reads.
Do you think this requires a Watergate level of investigation? If not, what do you think needs to be done that is, as yet, not being done?
obamanut2012
(29,369 posts)She told McCain he would know that if he had attended a classified meeting yesterday, like she did.
Spazito
(55,504 posts)which is why I found this OP somewhat curious to say the least.
obamanut2012
(29,369 posts)As I did Snowe. Sometimes they really piss me off, and I disagree with them, but they aren't Wingnuts. I wish Collins would just go (I-ME).
Calling for a "Watergate" investigation is playing into McCain and the haters' and racists' hands. Collins is a reasonable and intelligent person, and a REPUBLICAN, and she told McCain to STFU.
Spazito
(55,504 posts)republicans left in the party for some time, imo, now only Collins carries that banner. I honestly think Collins still carries the hope that by staying she can influence some members to moderate their rabid views. I think it's hopeless but it seems she does not, as yet anyway.
obamanut2012
(29,369 posts)I do wonder if she helped handpick Angus King.
SDjack
(1,448 posts)Here is my observation of what happened during the Clinton admin. The Congress hardened their grounds and buildings. Nothing that I could see was done to hardened the White House grounds. And, the recommendations that embassy grounds and buildings be hardened was rejected by the Republican House -- most of the buildings are too close to the road, and hardening/relocation was too expensive. That is, they are expendable. When one gets blown to hell, build a better one to replace it. As a private businessman, I visited an embassy in West Africa during "W's" first term. Scared the crap out of me. The embassy staff live under serious threat everyday. We should do better for them.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)If I hear the word Benghazi one more frigging time I think Im gonna snap.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)First, there is every indication that this was actually a CIA outpost, not a diplomatic consulate. If that is the case, then I am not in favor of a major public spectacle.
There is a good possibility that this was a one-off event that might not reveal much that could guide us in the future. But we should be interested in examining all the facts to see what might be done differently, if anything.
But I must say that this is not the tone the Republicans have used so far. They seem to have no interest in the fact and just want to make really wild, outrageous accusations. In other words, grandstanding. The nice thing about a formal hearing is that their grandstanding time is limited, and there should be an opportunity for facts to be put on the record. And after these facts are widely discussed, the Republicans should sit down and shut up about their wild theories.
If the Republicans actually have some constructive suggestions ... oh never mind. That never happens.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)If some people have questions, hold a public inquiry. While it may be inconvenient, I'll choose openess every time.
Besides, I'm 100% certain that the investigation will reveal no wrongdoing. If the Republicans want to waste their time and make themselves look like buffoons in front of America, I say we let them do it.