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struggle4progress

(126,447 posts)
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 04:12 PM Sep 2023

Just can't stop calling for civil war

BY MAX BURNS, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR - 09/06/23 10:00 AM ET

... In Georgia, state Sen. Colton Moore warned politico-turned-podcaster Steve Bannon that any prosecution of Trump would lead to a likely civil war. “I don’t want to have to draw my rifle,” Moore said. Concerningly, Moore also seemed to imply that Georgia state troopers would be willing participants in any effort to bust Trump out of jail ...

Former Georgia Republican gubernatorial candidate Kandiss Taylor also lent her voice to the chorus of war cries, describing Trump’s indictments as “treason” and “a hijacking of our country,” telling podcaster William Wallis, “This is war, and I hope and pray it gets resolves before we use guns…we’re at war right now, a war for our freedom.”

... Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who in 2008 served as the GOP’s vice presidential standard-bearer, assured Newsmax’s Eric Bolling that a civil war is “going to happen” if prosecutors don’t drop all charges against Trump ...

... violent and goading threats from our political leaders have a nasty habit of inciting action in those who take all of that hateful rhetoric as gospel ...

... Tucker Carlson recently asked Trump if he believed the nation was headed toward civil war. Trump answered the question by remarking on the “tremendous passion and love” evident in the mob that attacked the United States on January 6 ...

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4187490-republicans-just-cant-stop-calling-for-civil-war/

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Just can't stop calling for civil war (Original Post) struggle4progress Sep 2023 OP
Russian TV discusses potential US civil war struggle4progress Sep 2023 #1
Russia Jilly_in_VA Sep 2023 #9
Putin creates chaos and dissent in Western democracies. Irish_Dem Sep 2023 #10
Ask these nitwits who is going to fight who? And where in the country are Maraya1969 Sep 2023 #2
They say it to friendly interviewers. maxsolomon Sep 2023 #15
Apocalyptic thinking gratuitous Sep 2023 #3
Well put. Jesus won't be coming this time around. Only Putin. usonian Sep 2023 #11
Clueless idiots trying to grab headlines leftstreet Sep 2023 #4
Exactly. I don't think it would go over well in my leftyladyfrommo Sep 2023 #8
"We're at war right now, a war for our freedom." LastDemocratInSC Sep 2023 #5
So they're going to take on the United States Military? spanone Sep 2023 #6
If it really happened most would follow our side Tree Lady Sep 2023 #13
What I read, too. Was that these rightwing groups leftyladyfrommo Sep 2023 #7
Defiant noise reacting to the specter of losing. They're afraid. Hortensis Sep 2023 #12
MAGAts are the Confederacy and want war. Kingofalldems Sep 2023 #14
This is it exactly. n/t intheflow Sep 2023 #16
The Louts shall rise again! tanyev Sep 2023 #17
So far everyone shouting for CIVIL WAR are bluestarone Sep 2023 #18
I'll Fight To The Last Drop modrepub Sep 2023 #19
Colton, Thank God you republicans won that Civil War back in the 1860s. keithbvadu2 Sep 2023 #20
Oh no! Elessar Zappa Sep 2023 #21
"...tremendous passion and love" ... dchill Sep 2023 #22
"Civil War! Civil War!" Lady Freedom Returns Sep 2023 #23

struggle4progress

(126,447 posts)
1. Russian TV discusses potential US civil war
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 04:14 PM
Sep 2023

Kremlin propagandists on Russian state TV said that political turmoil in the United States suggested that the country was facing a civil war ...

Solovyov said that the turmoil of the campaign trail signaled that "America is on the verge of a civil war" and that if "they get tough on Trump, who knows how it will end," referring to the former president's legal woes.

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-american-civil-war-chances-vladimir-solovyov-1824570

Jilly_in_VA

(14,477 posts)
9. Russia
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 04:38 PM
Sep 2023

had better watch it. They are likely to have their own civil war sooner rather than later.

Irish_Dem

(81,877 posts)
10. Putin creates chaos and dissent in Western democracies.
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 04:54 PM
Sep 2023

Installing right wing nut jobs in leadership roles to weaken and destroy democracy.
He wants to weaken the path to his goal of sole superpower.

So many Americans agree with Putin, time to end democracy here.

Maraya1969

(23,515 posts)
2. Ask these nitwits who is going to fight who? And where in the country are
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 04:16 PM
Sep 2023

they going to fight?

The civil war in this country was fought between the south and north. How are you going to organize your civil war and where will it be fought?

maxsolomon

(38,928 posts)
15. They say it to friendly interviewers.
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 05:20 PM
Sep 2023

They'll never be asked a follow up question. It's considered bad form in the Right Wing Noise Machine.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Apocalyptic thinking
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 04:21 PM
Sep 2023

There's no shortage of evangelical and conservative Christian groups rooting for the Second Coming. They're all pretty sure that they'll wind up on the right side of any coming judgment, and they're positively aching for a ringside seat to watching Avenging Jesus mete out some just punishment. To other people, of course.

This mode of thinking often translates into a state of total ennui: Jesus is coming soon, so why should I worry my pretty little head over such trifles as climate change or vulture capitalism? Sure, millions of people are suffering needlessly all over the world, but the Bible says that's the way things are supposed to be. In fact, it's going to get a lot worse, but that's not my problem. The unrighteous should take it up with the Almighty. It's the perfect excuse for not doing anything about the world's troubles, because Jesus is going to come back and wave his magic god wand and set everything right.

In the same way, nitwits like Colton Moore are just itching for a civil war that will re-order society to their liking and all the inferior folks will get what's coming to them. They, naturally, will sail unscathed through the horror they're conjuring because of how virtuous they are. If you take that delusion seriously (and any number of these nincompoops do just that), why wouldn't you be trying to call it into reality?

usonian

(25,915 posts)
11. Well put. Jesus won't be coming this time around. Only Putin.
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 04:57 PM
Sep 2023

You really do get what you give, and that ain’t good for the cult.

So what if the Kool-Aid is mixed with Vodka?

Apocalyptic thinking leads to self-destructive behavior (witness the environment) and exploitation. Unfortunately, it’s somewhat wired into our culture. For an alternative point of view, see “Buddha at the Apocalypse” by Kurt Spellmeyer for a more integral way of thinking.

Escapism is a myth.

leftstreet

(41,075 posts)
4. Clueless idiots trying to grab headlines
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 04:26 PM
Sep 2023

Yeah, right. People watching the nightly news after working a full day, stopping for groceries, managing children/aging parents, dispensing with housekeeping issues, paying bills, finding something for dinner., searching for something on tv....

oh wait, I gotta get up and do a civil war

LastDemocratInSC

(4,243 posts)
5. "We're at war right now, a war for our freedom."
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 04:28 PM
Sep 2023

It seems that only TFG and his confederates would be concerned about their freedom. What freedoms are the right wingers mentioned afraid of losing?

Tree Lady

(13,331 posts)
13. If it really happened most would follow our side
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 05:12 PM
Sep 2023

but some would leave and fight for the other. Same as in the first civil war. Just finished watching the documentary about it and they talked about the national army that they had before the civil war and some quit if they lived in the south or believed slaves were ok.

leftyladyfrommo

(20,015 posts)
7. What I read, too. Was that these rightwing groups
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 04:34 PM
Sep 2023

don't have any central organization. Each person stores all their supplies at their house. They have no way to resupply.

It's really pathetic. It reminds me of the Boy Scouts my brother used to camp with. It was like playing cops and robbers when you were little.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Defiant noise reacting to the specter of losing. They're afraid.
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 05:12 PM
Sep 2023

They've brought their party to destruction, their candidate is a criminal who's going to be unable to run, and their children have started censoring what they're allowed to say in front of their grandchildren.

And they literally can't say why.

bluestarone

(22,324 posts)
18. So far everyone shouting for CIVIL WAR are
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 05:32 PM
Sep 2023

The ones that will be WAY BACK in the fighting line! THIS i have no doubt!

modrepub

(4,142 posts)
19. I'll Fight To The Last Drop
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 06:11 PM
Sep 2023

of your blood.

Exactly. These, whatever you want to call them, always talk about others, never themselves willing to put themselves on the line. Just like the Jan 6th low-class idiots. They get to suffer the consequences while the higher ups whoop it up at Mara Lago or some RW rag site.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
20. Colton, Thank God you republicans won that Civil War back in the 1860s.
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 06:12 PM
Sep 2023

Do you have confidence this time?

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