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videohead5

(2,237 posts)
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 07:30 AM Sep 2023

CNN Poll

They are saying that they over polled Republicans because there are so many candidates running in the Republican primary. We are relying on the pollster to correct the bias in the poll which is 60/40. I will just say that polling under 400 Democrats nationwide is nowhere near a big enough sample size to get a correct reading and their methodology is flawed. When I saw that 58% blames President Biden's policies for their economic problems that they are having, a red flag went up.

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CNN Poll (Original Post) videohead5 Sep 2023 OP
Cable media is shameful. pwb Sep 2023 #1
Me too. Also, CNN sucks bigly. Joinfortmill Sep 2023 #2
I only have internet service videohead5 Sep 2023 #3
I think the GQP are screwed.............. Lovie777 Sep 2023 #4
The media is trying to set people up to accept a fake Republican victory in 2024..... jaxexpat Sep 2023 #19
Shithead paid for the poll Historic NY Sep 2023 #5
It is not a scientific poll based on sampling or a good stat model it is a "hit piece" on Joe Biden Botany Sep 2023 #6
Predictit the betting odds favor Biden over Drumph and get this Tribetime Sep 2023 #7
I don't believe polling and they need to stop. mysteryowl Sep 2023 #8
Unfair and biased news... dlk Sep 2023 #9
Why make yourself crazy watching corporate "news" designed to create profits rather than Magoo48 Sep 2023 #10
I don't watch CNN videohead5 Sep 2023 #11
Keith Olbermann had a great take on this and other polls in today's podcast. GoCubsGo Sep 2023 #12
Biden's age is going to be the But Her Emails of the next election. heckles65 Sep 2023 #13
"Biden's age is going to be the But Her Emails of the next election." BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #15
Ya got me for a minute with "Assley". Ligyron Sep 2023 #18
And note that the "391" (D) number was Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #14
"Overpolled". Is that a scientific term? Luzblanca Sep 2023 #16
Yes. Hortensis Sep 2023 #20
"Overpolled" The Butler Sep 2023 #21
We use to have good polling Farmer-Rick Sep 2023 #17
So there are zero good pollsters out there? Luzblanca Sep 2023 #24
Welllll.......... Farmer-Rick Sep 2023 #25
I think that polls have morphed from a scientific process to a political process. Chainfire Sep 2023 #22
Yes without a doubt FakeNoose Sep 2023 #23
A horse race isn't created by the horses. Hassler Sep 2023 #26

pwb

(11,493 posts)
1. Cable media is shameful.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 07:36 AM
Sep 2023

So obviously against US. If you feel like cutting the cord I can tell you it feels great. Streaming is my thing now. Cable only gets me for WIFI now.

videohead5

(2,237 posts)
3. I only have internet service
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 07:40 AM
Sep 2023

Right now, I don't even pay for a streaming service. The CNN poll has been all over social media. I have a TV antenna and stream free services. I will probably go back to Sling soon for college sports.

Lovie777

(12,791 posts)
4. I think the GQP are screwed..............
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 07:53 AM
Sep 2023

47-46% in favor of shithole. The polling so lopsided given GQP and lending Indies double advantage in numbers, I'll say Pres. Biden is in pretty good shape.

jaxexpat

(7,066 posts)
19. The media is trying to set people up to accept a fake Republican victory in 2024.....
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 10:10 AM
Sep 2023

or to, at least, convince people that the 2024 race will be competitive. They're starting early because, either way, it's an up-hill mission since, clearly, the GOP is on its last legs and falling.

Botany

(70,925 posts)
6. It is not a scientific poll based on sampling or a good stat model it is a "hit piece" on Joe Biden
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 08:29 AM
Sep 2023

n/t

Tribetime

(4,861 posts)
7. Predictit the betting odds favor Biden over Drumph and get this
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 08:30 AM
Sep 2023

Newsome is third in line ahead of all others

Magoo48

(4,784 posts)
10. Why make yourself crazy watching corporate "news" designed to create profits rather than
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 08:47 AM
Sep 2023

ferret out truth?

GoCubsGo

(32,155 posts)
12. Keith Olbermann had a great take on this and other polls in today's podcast.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 09:04 AM
Sep 2023

He called polls "the balloon animals of politics." Twist 'em anyway you want, because they're full of hot air.

heckles65

(565 posts)
13. Biden's age is going to be the But Her Emails of the next election.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 09:17 AM
Sep 2023

And the top brass at CNN are damn fools if they think they're too far up the food chain to be affected by a de facto dictator in the White House.

BumRushDaShow

(131,939 posts)
15. "Biden's age is going to be the But Her Emails of the next election."
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 09:43 AM
Sep 2023

ACTUALLY because of what has been happening with Turtle and his freezes in the middle of press conferences - that talking point focusing solely on "Biden" and "age", suddenly made them realize they had an "even older" (R) guy who would become Majority Leader again in their fantasy of Democrats losing the Senate in the 2024 election, and he's obviously not well.

It's been fascinating watching the about-face in the media, with them now doing endless blabby expose articles about "age in politics". Turtle is actually 9 months older than Biden.

And then there is Assley who is only 3 months younger than Diane Feinstein, where she is now 90 and he'll be 90 next week). Assley suddenly popped up in discussions about the January 6 coup attempt the past week or so regarding what he knew. People were reminded about how he claimed that Pence would not be there in the Senate chamber on January 6 to control the Electoral College debate, and so he (Assley) would be doing it instead.

So the old fallback "Hunter Biden" might become the new -

BumRushDaShow

(131,939 posts)
14. And note that the "391" (D) number was Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 09:19 AM
Sep 2023

so right there, that dilutes the number of solid "Democrats" even more because how many in that subset were actual "independents"?

 

Luzblanca

(17 posts)
16. "Overpolled". Is that a scientific term?
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 09:48 AM
Sep 2023

Has the term been used by pollsters, political discutiste scientists or statisticians?

I actually never heard that term until this moment.

Farmer-Rick

(10,404 posts)
17. We use to have good polling
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 09:49 AM
Sep 2023

But now a days, polling is done just to push a narrative. And since the filthy-rich own everything and love them some GQP, it's a crazy right wing narrative they push. Rigged questions, bias sampling, huge margins of error, cherry picked reporting. It is all just standard manipulation for propaganda purposes.

I thought Nate Silver had the right idea of following the trend of all the polls. But he fell for that lie too and got it so wrong. He can't be trusted.

But if you think about it, since the GQP gerrymanders the hell out of the House, suppresses voting and rigs local elections, they have to rig polls to hide what they are doing. There is a red shift in polling going back to Raygun's day. It's a way for them to pretend they aren't manipulating elections while manipulating elections.

But a strong voter turnout will defeat all their polls and rigging. It overwhems the cheats.

Farmer-Rick

(10,404 posts)
25. Welllll..........
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 02:14 PM
Sep 2023

I think there maybe some good ones. I just don't know which ones they are. I obviously don't know all the poll organizations, so yeah there could be some very good ones out there.

I just won't trust any poll organizations until there is some evidence to trust them.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
22. I think that polls have morphed from a scientific process to a political process.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 11:04 AM
Sep 2023

My trust in many processes has waned over the past decade or so. The only polls that will really matter are the elections. Whenever I want to believe in a poll, I remember the ones showing that Hillary Clinton was a shoo in for the presidency up to the poll closing on election day.

FakeNoose

(33,496 posts)
23. Yes without a doubt
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 01:07 PM
Sep 2023

It's always with a huge grain of salt.

For the most part I've been ignoring polls since Dubya came and went.



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