Soledad O'Brien Does It Again.

[JaneyVee]

Using facts, logic, & reason to dismantle a RWNJ on Benghazi & Susan Rice:

Article here: http://americablog.com/2012/11/soledad-obrien-gop-rep-heck-benghazi-rice.html?

[BlueStreak]

1. OK. Help me out. Exactly what part of Amb. Rice's statement was "found to be wrong"?

Was it that there might be a connection with the movie protests? When was that found to be wrong? Clearly the attacks had some connection to that, even if it was not a central factor. Where has it been shown that:

a) there was a well formed group of terrorists

b) that were planning to attack at this exact place, date and time

c) without respect to any of the other events that were going on in the region?

[kelliekat44]

82. Soledad is one of a very few real and honest journalists around today.

Just waiting for her to lose her job because of it.

[BlueStreak]

86. I don't know that CNN is firing people because of their journalism

It probably has a lot more to do with their ratings. I don't know how she does, but I'd think she should get good ratings.

If I watched that kind of a program, I'd watch hers. But basically I don't have the time to sit around for hours watching people hash the same old stuff, usually just repeating the same tired talking points. There is a lot more to life than that.

I agreed to participate in a Nielson survey this week. They are going to find the data entry very easy in my case. I only have a few entries for the week. Teevee is such a waste of time.

[DCKit]

2. Republic quadruplespeak. How does this guy even get through a single day? nt

[BlueStreak]

4. Have you heard a single Republican offer a single suggestion

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-- even one -- of anything -- any little thing -- that we could have done differently to get a different result?

I have not. They just seem to be talking in circles, and frankly I can't understand what the issue is.

Yeah, we get it that 4 people died, and we're all sorry for that. But what should have been done differently that would have prevented those deaths?

And if they are so good at that, how about they go ahead and give us the plan for how we can stop ALL future terrorist attacks?

[Voice for Peace]

30. they are all constipated with dishonesty.

trying to pin some blame on Obama to make him look bad.
trying to block Susan Rice because SOMEBODY is telling them to do so.

Who?

[demwing]

3. I don't think I've ever had a crush on a journalist

till now. Is that inappropriate? Ah hell, who cares...I even love her name!

[BlueStreak]

6. Get in line, pal. I saw her first. :)

[russspeakeasy]

13. Hey, that's me, right in front of you.

[RVN VET]

35. She's young enough to be my adopted daughter . . .

. . . so you guys' intentions better be honorable or I might have to resort to a 2nd Amendment response.

[Sophiegirl]

55. OMG!!

I'm not gay, but if I were........

[calimary]

78. Welcome to DU, RVN VET!

I'm old enough to be her adoptive mother, and yeah boys, you BETTER be gentlemen!



I remember her from a syndicated show called "The Site." I always appreciated it when an intelligent, attractive BRUNETTE got an anchor job, instead of a continuing series of blondes.

[rateyes]

83. I, too, am old enough to be her adopted father, but,

I'm a dirty old man, so.....

[SCVDem]

64. I knew her Beyond 2000

[onlyadream]

70. I went to high school with her!!

And I thought she was great back then, too. We had mutual friends .
I'm so proud of her!!!!

[CatWoman]

5. LOL

"that was interesting"

[demwing]

16. oh yeah, loved that

"that" = "watching a real journalist at work"

[JoePhilly]

7. The GOP Pretzel twisting continues.

[pnwest]

8. AWKWARD! LOLOLOLOL - and beautiful, that sour look on his face when he knew he was in a corner...nt

[Spazito]

9. Wow!

That was both and

The repub in trying to blame Ambassador Rice exonerates her from what the repubs are trying to smear her with.

Wow.

Soledad O'Brien did a stellar job on this, she is the only real journalist on that network, imo.

[DURHAM D]

10. The expression on Soledad's face at the end was priceless.

It said - This guy is an idiot.

[seabeyond]

11. the whole reason to deny her a position is because the adm said she was not involved. not cause she

was wrong. or what she said.

could this be more stupid.

[closeupready]

22. Exactly. Which is how Charles Blow restated it.

Rice should not be confirmed because Heck feels the administration sucks.

Oh, okay. She did her job, and for that, she should be fired.

[UtahLib]

12. I loved watching her make him repeat the BS, affirming himself as the idiot he is, so many times. nt

[calimary]

79. Welcome to DU, UtahLib!

Glad you're here. I love how it's going out on CNN, which has cable penetration everywhere! Also - hopefully, she's giving some of her colleagues ideas of how these bloviating partisans SHOULD be interviewed.

[UtahLib]

92. Thank you, more pleased and comforted every day just by spending time at DU

[IcyPeas]

14. I do believe she made him squirm. /eom

[Uncle Joe]

15. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, JaneyVee.

[treestar]

17. She really goes after them for what they say

Doesn't give them a pass. Republicans are not used to that.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

80. Soon they'll refuse to talk to her. How dare she have follow-ups?!

[Politicub]

18. Media crush!! I liked how she wouldn't let him get away with the spin

And the fact that he became flustered is icing on the cake!

[Berlum]

19. He is a Heck of a shitty liar. Typical republican.

Heck (R) does not have a firm grip on the Rep[uliPoo his is flinging...

[lpbk2713]

20. SO redeems CNN, and they need it badly.

I watch CNN very seldom but I like what I hear about Soledad.

[closeupready]

21. Oops! What the heck is he trying to say???

Useless. K&R

[shenmue]

67. We used to play "put your forehead on a baseball bat and spin"

It made me sound like that Republican.

[LoisB]

23. I have decided that the collective i.q. of the entire Republican party is 12.

[BainsBane]

24. Does he know what the UN Ambassador does?

What a convoluted argument, and so clearly hypocritical.

[1StrongBlackMan]

25. Funny how little effort it takes ...

to smash the logic of this gop argument.

Second thought:

I'll bet Joe Heck is cursing that uppity N!@@3% and B!^@4 for daring to shine a light on his script.

[kentuck]

26. Maybe they should bring her over to MSNBC...

For a little balance?

[Care Acutely]

56. NO. It's so much better to have some credible journalists on both CNN & MSNBC

That way the truth reaches a wider audience - and that's important.

[heaven05]

58. I wish

that would be a powerhouse lineup.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

77. No, because too many people, even some here on DU, are mistakenly convinced that MSNBC is

just as bad as FoxNoise, only on the opposite side. We need more people like Rachel, Chris Hayes, Lawrence, Soledad, etc. on the other networks.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

27. It is amazing how facile are our repubicans....

They move from one non sequitur to the next, defying gravity all the while.

[David Zephyr]

28. K&R. Thank you, JaneyVe .

Excellent journalism by Soledad...as always.

[pa28]

29. She's breaking all the rules!

She's supposed to just nod gravely and ask what the president knew and when he knew it . . . not point out that his argument contradicts itself and he's basically full of shit.

Joe's mad.

[Roland99]

31. So, Heck is upset not at Amb Rice but the WH for putting her out there?

At a time when no one (probably not even those on the ground in Libya) knew exactly what had happened?

And, for that NON-transgression on her part, they want to block her nomination?!?!?

*CUCKOO* *CUCKOO* *CUCKOO*

[heaven05]

59. hey

Mittshit was out there in front of the cameras before the incident was over. Trying to look and sound like he knew what was going on. No briefing, nothing. Amb. Rice went out with information provided by the CIA. Now you make a judgement on culpability.

[John2]

32. Just

get to the point. This whole charade is about President Obama isn't it? Quit trying to bully a woman and fight like a man. The President called you out.

[atufal]

33. Beautiful! And shorter Charles Blow: "The fuck?!" NT

[Liberal1975]

34. Man...it would have been nice

If the Republicans would have shown half as much zeal getting to the bottom of the intelligence failures that led to 911. "BinLaden determined to attack the United States" anyone? It's been the same dog and pony show since the 90's when they realized they could create a false narrative with half baked politicized witchunts like Foster and Whitewater and of course the BlowJob that destroyed America (I'm not kidding either that BJ literally destroyed America) meanwhile stuff like Iran Contra 9/11 and the outing of CIA agent Plame, secret meetings with Energy Industry executives, embedded reporters in Whitehouse press core who moonlight as prostitutes etc, etc, etc is all "move along, nothing to see here"...glad for O'Brien and sad that a reporter who doesn't lay down to spin is so rare these days...

[yonder]

74. very well said, L1975. nt

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

36. so not proud of my congressman.

Ugh.

[Pryderi]

37. Watching Soledad waltz him into a corner was a thing of beauty! I love how she got him to

essentially say at the end that it was the administration and the intelligence information and left Rice out of it.

[qanda]

38. I wonder if they had a wheelchair waiting to take him away

I'm pretty sure pretzels can't walk.

[MissMarple]

39. I feel like my brain just got scrambled.

Listening to that guy is much like the couple of times I tried to listen to rush. Incomprehensible.

[MagickMuffin]

40. August 6, 2001 September 11, 2001

"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile." Condoleezza Rice, May 16, 2002"


In June, July, August 2001 when the president is being briefed virtually every day in his morning intelligence briefing that something is about to happen, and he never chairs a meeting and he never asks Condi Rice to chair a meeting about what we're doing about stopping the attacks. She didn't hold one meeting during all those three months.

April 18, 1983: Bombing of U.S. Embassy in Beirut

A suicide bomber in a pickup truck loaded with explosives rammed into the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, Lebanon. Sixty-three people were killed, including 17 Americans, eight of whom were employees of the Central Intelligence Agency, including chief Middle East analyst Robert C. Ames and station chief Kenneth Haas.

Reagan administration officials said that the attack was carried out by Hezbollah operatives, a Lebanese militant Islamic group whose anti-U.S. sentiments were sparked in part by the revolution in Iran. The Hezbollah operatives who carried out the attack on the embassy reportedly were receiving financial and logistical support from both Iran and Syria. [For more on how and why Iran and Syria were helping to direct attacks on the U.S., see FRONTLINE's interviews with Robert Oakley and Robert C. McFarlane.]

The U.S. government took no military action in response to the embassy bombing, although, according to retired Marine Lt. Col. Bill Cowan, a covert military team entered Beirut in order to gather intelligence in preparation for retaliatory strikes.

Oct. 23, 1983 Bombing of Marine barracks in Beirut

A suicide bomber detonated a truck full of explosives at a U.S. Marine barracks located at Beirut International Airport; 241 U.S. Marines were killed and more than 100 others wounded. They were part of a contingent of 1,800 Marines that had been sent to Lebanon as part of a multinational force to help separate the warring Lebanese factions. (Twice during the early 1980s the U.S. had deployed troops to Lebanon to deal with the fall-out from the 1982 Israeli invasion. In the first deployment, Marines helped oversee the peaceful withdrawal of the PLO from Beirut. In mid-September 1982 -- after the U.S. troops had left -- Israel's Lebanese allies massacred an estimated 800 unarmed Palestinian civilians remaining in refugee camps. Following this, 1,800 Marines had been ordered back into Lebanon.)

In his September 2001 FRONTLINE interview, Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger said the U.S. still lacks "actual knowledge of who did the bombing" of the Marine barracks. But it suspected Hezbollah, believed to be supported in part by Iran and Syria. Hezbollah denied its involvement.

The president assembled his national security team to devise a plan of military action. The planned target was the Sheik Abdullah barracks in Baalbek, Lebanon, which housed Iranian Revolutionary Guards believed to be training Hezbollah fighters. Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger aborted the mission, reportedly because of his concerns that it would harm U.S. relations with other Arab nations. Instead, President Reagan ordered the battleship USS New Jersey, stationed off the coast of Lebanon, to the hills near Beirut. The move was seen as largely ineffective.

Four months after the Marine barracks bombing, U.S. Marines were ordered to start pulling out of Lebanon.

Dec. 12, 1983 Bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait

The American embassy in Kuwait was bombed in a series of attacks whose targets also included the French embassy, the control tower at the airport, the country's main oil refinery, and a residential area for employees of the American corporation Raytheon. Six people were killed, including a suicide truck bomber, and more than 80 others were injured. The suspects were thought to be members of Al Dawa, or "The Call," an Iranian-backed group and one of the principal Shiite groups operating against Saddam Hussein in Iraq.

The U.S. military took no action in retaliation. In Kuwait, 17 people were arrested and convicted for participating in the attacks. One of those convicted was Mustafa Youssef Badreddin, a cousin and brother-in-law of one of Hezbollah's senior officers, Imad Mughniyah. After a six-week trial in Kuwait, Badreddin was sentenced to death for his role in the bombings.

Over the following years, the arrest and imprisonment of the "Kuwait 17" (also known as the "Al Dawa 17&quot , became one of the most consistent demands of the kidnappers of Western hostages in Lebanon and plane hijackers.

Ironically, when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, the Iraqis unwittingly released the imprisoned Badreddin and the remaining members of the Kuwait 17. Press reports vary about Badreddin's current whereabouts.

More incidents of terrorists attacks at link

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/cron.html




I think these republicants need a past history lesson in terrorists attacks under the leadership of their party's presidents.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

41. Watched it twice and still don't get his point

He seems to be saying that Condi was intentionally lying whereas Ambassador Rice was not, so it's the administration's fault. Hunh?

[WCGreen]

48. That's what I got out of that conversation....

[forestpath]

42. I wish they could clone her.

[Please proceed]

43. Maybe you haven't heard, four brave Americans died there.

And apparently 4 is the magic number of deaths that the GOP cares about. Because they certainly didn't care when the Bush Administration ginned up the case against Sadaam causing the death of thousands of brave Americans.

[underpants]

45. Welcome to DU

I love the name.

Please proceed Guvenuh!!! - my wife and I said that to each other the whole next day

[WCGreen]

50. Welcome to DU....

Great comment.

[msanthrope]

57. Welcome to DU!!! Stick around!! nt

[Odin2005]

69. Welcome! Love the user name!

[dchill]

84. Great user name, great comment!

Welcome to DU, Please proceed.

[Cha]

44. Thanks JaneyVee! Real interviews.. calling Cons on their BS..

Priceless. Soledad is showing others in her field how easy it is(if you're bright) And, how much FUN!

[reformist2]

46. LOL...The video is inadvertently hilarious!

They've got nothing and they know it. The smirks that occasionally break out on Joe Heck's face give his game away.

[underpants]

53. His face looked like it was about to invert to stop the mouth part of his face from saying words

He was rocking on his heels.

[AlbertCat]

81. His face looked like it was about to invert to stop the mouth part of his face from saying words

I want to post Bill Plimpton's amazing cartoon of "Your Face"....


but I can't find a video of it online.


damnit!

Oh wait.... here it is!


http://tu.tv/videos/bill-plympton-your-face-short-fi

[snagglepuss]

47. K& R

[underpants]

49. There's Something About Heck

[mwb970]

51. What twisted, muddled "thinking".

Why are they ALL like this now?

[juajen]

52. Soledad is good.

[wildeyed]

54. She is great!

Poor Heck is blinking up a storm because he knows his canned talking points are not holding up under scrutiny and then Charles Blow piles on just for fun

[ashredux]

60. Hi to DU....decided to come over and read some rational posts

First, Soledad nailed him. She is becoming the new hard ass on cable.

This is my first post on DU...have never come over here except to read.

Glad to be here....

ash

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

62. I bid you welcome

[hrmjustin]

63. Welcome to DU!

[heaven05]

61. idiots

these idiots think they can say anything and it is etched in stone truth that people drop to their knee and revere. These are some fucked up individuals that are our so-called congressional 'leaders' of real thinking people. How do they get voted in? Oh I forgot, LIV's. Bane of civilized people.

[AverageJoe90]

65. Heckuva job, Joey.

Pwned by Soledad O'Brien.......

[southmost]

66. i'm enamored by her tenacity and patience to deal with the b.s.

plus huge girl-crush on her

[Canuckistanian]

68. Wow, I lost a few brain cells listening to that logic

I was as confused as Soledad

[ProudProgressiveNow]

71. Convoluted!!!

[lonestarnot]

72. K & R!

[NCGardenGirl]

73. So glad I switched to Soledad from MJ! Journalism at it's finest!!!

[Hamlette]

75. What an idiot he is.

so the argument is, if you knowingly lie, its fine, if you don't know you are lying, it is grounds for impeachment.

This should be played to every sentient being in the country and then ask: WTF???????

[MrMickeysMom]

76. "Thanks, Soledad... That was INTERESTING..."

And, now... a let's immortalize that moment from the Mr. Heck...

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[AgingAmerican]

85. Through all of this I still don't know what their point is

Seriously, what is the supposed scandal? That Obama supposedly didnt say the word "terrorism" in a speech? WTF?

This is the stupidest "scandal" in history, next to the gun walking thing.

[lumpy]

91. Guess we will have to get used to GOPers playing politics until 2016 unless they

decide on getting to work on settling real problems facing the American people.
The point is that the Republican want to continue to smear Obama in hopes somehow that will bring the GOP back into power.

[Maineman]

87. Good job Soledad, and the other guest who "helped" understand.

The politician was so full of bull, it was a joke. And, at the end, he acted as if he had finally succeeded in getting Soledad to understand his twisted BS. The guy is an idiot.

[They_Live]

88. It's odd, in the previous administration,

all they had to say was "for reasons of National Security", and anyone asking questions about ANYTHING would have nothing else to say.

[dtom67]

89. why didn't someone come back later and call out Condy Rice?

MCcain and Graham didn't say boo about Condy being full of shit; more boring GOP bluster.

MCcain ( and his Mutated Jowls ) should (finally ) just empty his Depends(TM) and retire.

[lumpy]

90. Jesus Christ ! It disgusting that the GOPers won't give up on trying to bring down

Obama's administration. They continue to play petty politics to the detriment of this country. The SOBs should be working for the American people instead of wasting everybody's time on a petty point of who knew what when. I will venture to say that most people really don't give a damn.