On the impeachment stunt - Are they even thinking about the consequences?

[MichaelSoE]

If it were actually possible to impeach and convict then Kamala Harris becomes the president.

Oh, the horror!

What fucking idiots.

[Lovie777]

1. GQP are bat shit craz craz.......................

I guess they have plans to impeach her too.

[Walleye]

4. They have all kinds of plans, they want to appoint Trump as speaker I think

Can you imagine Donald having to show up every day and conduct the business of the House. Ha!

[EYESORE 9001]

16. I bet he has trouble conducting his bowel movement business

All the work associated with being Speaker would get outsourced, undoubtedly.

[Jerry2144]

27. That's why he's known as

Diaper Donnie Dipshit

[Farmer-Rick]

39. Exactly

The folks who use to work with him on that TV reality show you're fired or the apprentice.... whatever it's called.

Said he stank to high heaven. If he wasn't peeing himself, he was taking a dump in his adult diapers. Even his breath smelled bad.

Funny how good Hollywood is at hiding disgusting details of their supposed stars. I guess Harvey Weinstein set the bar.

[Stinky The Clown]

46. I'd love to see a cite for that!

I have long imagined he literally smells bad.

[Jerry2144]

47. For citation

See post 27 above

[Walleye]

2. That fact should prove to everyone that this is not a serious impeachment.

The wording even sounds like Trump, “they did it to us we gotta do it to them”. They’re charging that he abused his power as vice president, exactly what power does the vice president have?. Has a vice president ever made policies?

[Shipwack]

31. I'm sure Dick Cheney's fingerprints are on more than a few policies...

But your point still stands.

[Walleye]

33. Well we knew who was making the decisions in that administration.

As far as I know no one has accused President Obama of delegating his policy-making power to the vice president during his term. And the Republicans never brought it up back then.

[no_hypocrisy]

3. I suppose that the end game is to prevent BOTH Joe Biden and Kamala Harris

from returning to the WH in 2024. It's to influence the electorate more than mere removal.

[Walleye]

5. They can't win with a regular campaign, so they have to try these gimmicks

[Hermit-The-Prog]

6. Every Republican campaign is the same...

Republican candidate, "Vote for me and I'll make somebody miserable!"

[no_hypocrisy]

7. Exactly

[BComplex]

8. Having Kamala Harris as president would be everything they'd hope for to enrage their racist base

enough to vote in the next trump presidency.

[bullimiami]

18. And the sane America would have an awesome president we would turn out for en masse.

[twodogsbarking]

9. Maybe they are trying to overthrow the government; again.

[rubbersole]

12. Chaos.

And blatant lies/misinformation backed by unlimited money. Billionaires - divide and conquer the great unwashed and don't make us pay taxes.
It has worked until now. 11/24 will determine if it continues.

[mopinko]

24. they never stopped. this is mango menace's doing.

and these r the same clowns 🤡 who r yelling that obama is secretly running the show.

[Sailingdiver]

10. Thinking isn't a strong suit of the cult

I probably shouldn't intertwine cult and thinking in the same sentence.

[C_U_L8R]

11. No one ever calls them 'the smart party'

Dumb and petulant is no way to go through life

[everyonematters]

13. No they are not. They are like a bunch of petulant children.

If they impeach Biden, and the voters think it is a joke, that can only hurt them in the general election. This is being driven by the Republican base which is being manipulated by the right wing media for profit.

[Butterflylady]

14. This is what I would call

A vengeance impeachment.

[gab13by13]

15. Everyone is missing the point,

Did the Benghazi investigations hurt Hillary? Did the Hillary server investigation announced by Comey hurt Hillary?

Did the Swift Boat Bull Shit hurt John Kerry?

The Magat party has no defense for Trump's crimes so its strategy is to bring President Biden down to Trump's level.

What happened when Kerry decided not to aggressively fight back against the Swift Boaters?

Democrats need to fight back, just like Senator John Fetterman did, the Magats need to be mocked, the reporters asking them stupid questions need to be mocked.

It needs to be done sooner rather than later.

[WA-03 Democrat]

23. Agree

100% this

[PRETZEL]

25. Alex Wagner did a segment last night

making the exact points.

All the points listed were highlighted.

[Hortensis]

35. The prevailing theme, ours and the media's, is there's nothing there.

So far, we, with great assistance from truth, are winning the battle for intelligent public perception.

But you're right that aggressive noise and cosplay should reach some who can't sift truth out of the confusion always being sowed to hide it. "To stop the allegation IS the crime" from permanently embedding in some minds, forever after to be identified by the media as its victim's "baggage".

Just look at how lying allegations of corruption with Hillary's home server lent "credibility" in vulnerable minds to lying allegations that her meeting with "Wall Street" executives was proof of corruption, which lead some to, tragically, "I just can't trust Hillary" and even "Lock her up!" And, of course, creation of the eternal "Hillary's baggage."

So, I've talked myself into agreeing we need to help those who are allegation-vulnerable. For them, we need public figures to engage in frequent cosplays of aggressive outrage at the allegations, arm waving and interruptions when discussing, shaking people off the preconceptions into self-protective mode by stoking fears, sensationalize and reduce the issues to emotional catchphrases. While always remaining truthful.

I'm not joking, I'm pragmatic -- if it works, do it: we need to provide the light, or loud noise as the case may be, for people lost in the smoke.

[StevieM]

38. The fake email controversy was more important than all other factors put together in that election.

She actually beat back the Republican lies about Benghazi pretty successfully.

[Ohioboy]

40. Yep

All they want is to be able to use the word impeachment in the same sentence whenever they are talking about Biden.

The plan will be to keep the "inquiry" going as long as possible and keep talking about it. They know they have nothing, hence an inquiry and not an actual impeachment.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

17. They're lost in their echo chamber.

As John Fetterman said, it's a right-wing circle jerk.

[dlk]

19. Republicans appear determined to give us our first Democratic woman president

Atoning for Hillary?

[gab13by13]

22. That has nothing to do with what the Magats are doing,

[dlk]

44. Indeed

[MistakenLamb]

20. Its Benghazi hearings 2.0

Only this time regarding a sitting President, they want to make things so bad that enough people reminisce for the Trump years," yeah he was bad but gas and food prices were better" it is frightening sobering that they very may well succeed next November

[Hortensis]

21. Bill Clinton and Dems actually got a boost and gained seats.

The Republican Party lost big from factional misuse of impeachment. Killed Speaker Newt, who went off to hawk fake cancer cures.

Of course, factional loyalty has required self-corruption of the offended Republican voters of the 1990s. But, only some have shown they have no bottom to hit. A Politico article speculates "Even if the senate clears Donald tRump, the Republican Party could pay the cost for a generation."

Its survival even as an assemblage of corrupt, traitorous, interdependent interests scrabbling to hold into power is very questionable now.

[gab13by13]

26. Not fighting back against the new Magat party is a dangerous strategy,

The Magat party will not self-implode. The Democratic party needs to fight back.

If the Magat party were to ever control the presidency and Congress our democracy is over.

Russia will do everything in its power to see that Donald Trump wins the election. Control of the Senate favors the Magat party. There are more toss up seats that Democrats have to win than there are Magat seats.

I feel good about the House, but then again we have gerrymandering and voter suppression.

[Hortensis]

37. All true. (Of course there is no strategy to NOT fight and win.)

Without gerrymandering alone, I'd feel GREAT about the house. But this is the field we fight on. I'd much rather be in our position than theirs. Their only way of winning is to lose, if they only knew it of course.

[SKKY]

28. Do they ever? Of course not...

...but since they're likely to lose the House in 2024, and McCarthy's stint as leader will be short-lived, the only thing they're going to do going forward is counter everything TFG has going on. To use his words, they've signed up to be his retribution.

[Marthe48]

29. They'd lose the ageism smear

If VP Harris became President.

President Biden's age is the only near reality slam they have. Everything else is pure bs.

[librechik]

30. They are only doing it to get on social media everyday to tar Joe.

They will hint around, but the actual thing doesn't have enough votes total in the House to pass.

[ancianita]

32. Another consequence to consider: IF they could impeach & remove Biden, they could do it to Harris.

They just don't have the numbers to do the first.

[NCDem47]

34. All Rs have to do is plant SOME seed of doubt about Biden...

in the minds of a few thousands in key battleground states.

[Ford_Prefect]

36. They are now the VOP (Voice Of Putin). Their primary goals are chaos, fear, and revenge.

Its straight from Putin's terror handbook for disabling and dismembering government.

[pazzyanne]

41. You forget the audience they are playing for!

The Alternate Facts Crowd who wouldn't do a fact check or a little research if their lives depended on it. The are founding members of the Orange One's carefully constructed cult. They are lazy non-thinkers who want to be spoon-fed rather than hunting for the truth and reading and thinking about our constitution and following legislative actions. They are toddlers playing in the world of politics, accepting Putin's propaganda from social media sources rather than following legitimate news sources.

As far as their impeach Joe Biden push is concerned, they watched
Orange One's impeachments and still do not know how to conduct one.. In the words of their cult leader, "Sad."

[Aristus]

42. How many times do I have to say this?

The goal of the impeachment movement isn’t to remove Joe Biden from office. It’s to tag him with more impeachments than Trump. That’s it. They know the Senate would acquit in any impeachment. They don’t care. They just want to get Trump out of the impeachment cellar.

[hvn_nbr_2]

43. Fanatics don't foresee consequences

Fanatics only "foresee" their own fantasies.

[NowISeetheLight]

45. I Think

I think they realize Trump will be the nominee... so they need to have a Democrat they believe they might be able to beat. I think they view Harris as that person. I see them really focusing on her this election, even with Biden running, they'll paint her as socialist evil and incompetent. They're going to focus on "what if".

The Democrat response needs to be elevating Harris. We all know she's a good person but she hasn't been front and center a lot. I think a lot of people compare her to Dan Quayle as far as "being there." The administration needs to give her some public facing roles that are wins. I'll be the first to say she's been very hidden. I hardly ever see her on the news. Give her some victories so people can see we have a solid successor if something happens to the President.