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senseandsensibility

(25,530 posts)
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 02:41 PM Sep 2023

David Ignatius? How influential is he?

I know he's a big beltway "both sider" type, but I avoid those so I don't know too much about him. Anyhoo...Andrea Mitchell was interviewing him on her show, and apparently he's calling on Biden and Harris to not run and calling them out for not being popular enough. He concedes that Biden is a good president.

Too me, it sounded like a pile-on and an attempt to bake in the narrative that Biden can't win. Plus there was a complete lack of substance to his critique. So, in other words, R's don't like Biden and Harris so they can't win, and that's THEIR fault. As if another Dem would be met with open arms. Again, . The guy sounded coo-coo and even Mitchell wasn't buying it.

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David Ignatius? How influential is he? (Original Post) senseandsensibility Sep 2023 OP
Maybe influential with people who've actually heard of him? leftstreet Sep 2023 #1
I have never been impressed with this person LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #2
Thanks for the link senseandsensibility Sep 2023 #4
Morning Joe babbler... agingdem Sep 2023 #3
He wrote an opinion piece in the WAPO titled 'President Biden should not run again in 2024' spanone Sep 2023 #5
I half expected to find iDJT's name on that oped. mahina Sep 2023 #11
Wouldn't have surprised me. Disappointed by Ignatius. spanone Sep 2023 #12
Andrea bats for the other team. pwb Sep 2023 #6
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #10
Beltway influencer ala Mitchell blm Sep 2023 #7
Who? zuul Sep 2023 #8
Not surprising on Andrea. Mrs. Greenspan is a die hard Republican. True Blue American Sep 2023 #9
I'll tell you who he is PCIntern Sep 2023 #13
Well said n/t Doc Sportello Sep 2023 #15
Groupthink regular, protecting his position in DC's "in-crowd." Hortensis Sep 2023 #14

LetMyPeopleVote

(182,091 posts)
2. I have never been impressed with this person
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 02:47 PM
Sep 2023

I am irked that the Washington Post published this piece of crap

I like the Morning Joe response to this article


senseandsensibility

(25,530 posts)
4. Thanks for the link
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 02:49 PM
Sep 2023

Didn't want to link directly to the article even if it was available without a paywall.

agingdem

(8,958 posts)
3. Morning Joe babbler...
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 02:48 PM
Sep 2023

a conservative asshole ...hates Trump slightly more than he hates Biden...

spanone

(142,062 posts)
5. He wrote an opinion piece in the WAPO titled 'President Biden should not run again in 2024'
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 02:49 PM
Sep 2023

makes sense that andrea mitchell would have him on.



True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
9. Not surprising on Andrea. Mrs. Greenspan is a die hard Republican.
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 03:20 PM
Sep 2023

On another note Mitt Romney announced he would not run again. Time for a younger generation. Not sure about that with the younger crazies taking over.

PCIntern

(28,594 posts)
13. I'll tell you who he is
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 03:59 PM
Sep 2023

He’s one of these pseudointellectual professorial types, who speaks in a measured, academic, and calmly reassuring manner, stating his faux-middle of the road opinion whilst primarily utilizing three syllable words, and then occasional four syllable word, and sounds as though he is the “voice of reason“.

He’s a condescending prick, who is definitely suffering from imposter phenomenon, and certainly should be. Because he is.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Groupthink regular, protecting his position in DC's "in-crowd."
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 04:23 PM
Sep 2023

Which includes a lean to elect Republicans when it matters, and to undermining Democrats. Nothing new here. He uses a shopping-cart approach to accomplish whatever the agenda is. I haven't bothered to read him in years either though we get the WaPo.

But I do remember a piece he once did reporting on Candidate Sanders' foreign policy stances that illustrated a shopping-cart approach. BECAUSE he never once mentioned Sanders' Russia policy or attitude. Okay that it didn't mention his historic fondness for Russia. Not mentioning his occasionally notable voting record regarding Russia was a little questionable, but not in the same class as avoiding Russia as a foreign policy issue altogether.

What WAS huge was that he didn't mention Sanders' support for eliminating NATO -- or alternatively for Putin's plan to admit Russia and completely abandon its primary mission of containing Russia's hegemonic ambitions (i.e., to eliminate NATO). No Russia-Ukraine either, though Russia had invaded in 2014 and Putin was promising to rebuild Russia's Soviet-era empire.

And it goes without saying that Ignatius didn't mention Russia's use of Sanders' candidacy for internet warfare against the U.S., and Democrats specifically. Mentioning THAT would have been shocking and risky as that topic was avoided if at all avoidable by journalists at the "in" table.

Not to pick on Sanders. This is about the sort of thing I just assume we'd see from Ignatius.

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