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kpete

(72,902 posts)
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 08:03 PM Sep 2023

Judge Cannon reveals Trump hoarded *THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED PAGES* of *classified* documents

🚨BREAKING: In a late afternoon ruling by Judge Cannon, it is also revealed that Trump had hoarded *THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED PAGES* of *classified* documents at various classification levels.


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Judge Cannon reveals Trump hoarded *THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED PAGES* of *classified* documents (Original Post) kpete Sep 2023 OP
Wow. yardwork Sep 2023 #1
Oh, it wasn't 35 documents. It was freakin 3500 pages of documents! TheBlackAdder Sep 2023 #35
Almost matches the number of his lifetime lawsuits.... AZ8theist Sep 2023 #59
Lock him up LiberaBlueDem Sep 2023 #2
1 day each IbogaProject Sep 2023 #61
Judge Cannon does not want to go down on the Trump-Tanic Botany Sep 2023 #3
So, she's getting her own head out of her ass, then. Good. lindysalsagal Sep 2023 #71
He's not going to have to worry about the jan 6 rico case lindysalsagal Sep 2023 #72
Well, it's the least she could do! dchill Sep 2023 #4
We ought to know some generalized info on the contents of these docs. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2023 #5
I wonder if any changed hands during the LIV golf tournaments at Trump clubs? tanyev Sep 2023 #9
Hole in One NowISeetheLight Sep 2023 #10
Hahaaha johnnyfins Sep 2023 #16
Illiterate utahguy925 Sep 2023 #21
Welcome to DU! KS Toronado Sep 2023 #69
Jesus, did he give ANY OF THEM BACK??? no_hypocrisy Sep 2023 #6
And those are just the ones they found. Angleae Sep 2023 #7
Exactly! God knows what was moved and stashed at other non Mar-a-Lago Trump properties. Golden Raisin Sep 2023 #17
We also don't know why Ivanka's mom's coffin was so heavy. BComplex Sep 2023 #57
Yes, all the copies of each document and all those burner phones forever flying_wahini Sep 2023 #65
My first thought True Blue American Sep 2023 #68
Why hasn't the FBI gone in the new found office to get the documents? OLDMDDEM Sep 2023 #60
i don't think Putin and MBS are going to consent to a search, so they're gone forever... Takket Sep 2023 #33
Any number of which should get him hung by themselves. marble falls Sep 2023 #8
According to Stormy, COL Mustard Sep 2023 #14
Thread winner!!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #23
Thanks, Master Gunny! COL Mustard Sep 2023 #37
Well deserved Colonel. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #50
Yet. marble falls Sep 2023 #27
BOOM!!! calimary Sep 2023 #41
Wow! That is not going to help him. LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #11
I bet more are hidden elsewhere. BigmanPigman Sep 2023 #12
Yet his other properties have not been searched. Disgusting. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2023 #26
They're probably all out on the dark web for 0.2 bitcoins (whatever that is.) erronis Sep 2023 #13
Who knew,.... magicarpet Sep 2023 #15
But were the MOMFUDSKI Sep 2023 #18
with bullet points? Captain Zero Sep 2023 #24
K&R orangecrush Sep 2023 #19
I served 28 years in the Army . . AverageOldGuy Sep 2023 #20
Welcome home brother. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #25
Right there with you. MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #38
We should all be pissed off.. mountain grammy Sep 2023 #39
So am I. First we learn that the FBI did not want to search MAL, then we learn that no other Lonestarblue Sep 2023 #54
Count me pissed too! (and I have less reason to be than you!) lastlib Sep 2023 #67
And some in the FBI didn't want to search Mar-a-lago. republianmushroom Sep 2023 #22
At this point in time, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #28
Did the Judge just flip? She saw the iceberg ahead and doesn't want to go down with the SS TFG? usaf-vet Sep 2023 #29
3500 classified document mountain grammy Sep 2023 #30
I suspect he hoarded a lot more than that, but those are the ones the DOJ are Bev54 Sep 2023 #31
Thirty five hundred... wholesale and retail. keithbvadu2 Sep 2023 #32
If counter intel could find JUST ONE for sale and buy it back Captain Zero Sep 2023 #34
This is insanity MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #36
Between the 3500 pages and the no name office on yorkster Sep 2023 #40
Does anyone know where to find the reference to 3500 pages? Moosepoop Sep 2023 #42
Here: onenote Sep 2023 #44
Thank you so much!!! Moosepoop Sep 2023 #46
Found a link to the pdf crickets Sep 2023 #47
Thank you!! Moosepoop Sep 2023 #48
You're welcome! crickets Sep 2023 #53
Footnote number 2 UpInArms Sep 2023 #49
Thank you!! Moosepoop Sep 2023 #51
my fluffing goodness. eek. treson. AllaN01Bear Sep 2023 #43
we already knew there were at least 102 documents at issue. onenote Sep 2023 #45
it took her a fucking month (according to lawrence o'donnell & guests) to essentially put her name orleans Sep 2023 #52
It took around two weeks. onenote Sep 2023 #55
Just think of what might still be at the moniss Sep 2023 #56
The real irony jcgoldie Sep 2023 #58
Just give him a month in prison Old Crank Sep 2023 #62
All "HIS"personal property no doubt world wide wally Sep 2023 #63
A special episode of Hoarders. Donald J. Trump and all of his storage lockers/offices. sarcasmo Sep 2023 #64
How many of those pages BlueIdaho Sep 2023 #66
Certainly not to read them swong19104 Sep 2023 #70
That's a lot of toilet time Blue Owl Sep 2023 #73
There must be a mistake. I just watched the news and all they talked about was Hunter Biden. Midnight Writer Sep 2023 #74
She is still very much farting around with this case. GreenWave Sep 2023 #75
Were any documents scanned to a computer? LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #76

IbogaProject

(5,913 posts)
61. 1 day each
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 10:38 AM
Sep 2023

Should do 1 day per page, get him thinking he might get out then slap on some amount of years to be served consecutively.

lindysalsagal

(22,910 posts)
72. He's not going to have to worry about the jan 6 rico case
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 04:04 PM
Sep 2023

He'll already be in jail for life.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,133 posts)
5. We ought to know some generalized info on the contents of these docs.
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 08:12 PM
Sep 2023

I have no doubts that Trump would sell his "library" to the highest bidder. I assume SA won it with a $2BB "investment" to Jared. Because paying Don direct would look like corruption.

johnnyfins

(3,768 posts)
16. Hahaaha
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 08:40 PM
Sep 2023

The Trump library will be in the desert next to an oil well. All books will be re-printed in Sharpie!!!!

Golden Raisin

(4,755 posts)
17. Exactly! God knows what was moved and stashed at other non Mar-a-Lago Trump properties.
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 08:51 PM
Sep 2023

My guess this is a tip-of-the-iceberg scenario. Same goes for what we still don't know about the Coup.

BComplex

(9,913 posts)
57. We also don't know why Ivanka's mom's coffin was so heavy.
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 09:37 AM
Sep 2023

And why it's buried where nobody can get to it without trespassing.

flying_wahini

(8,275 posts)
65. Yes, all the copies of each document and all those burner phones forever
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 11:00 AM
Sep 2023

Another burden for Ivanka's memory.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
68. My first thought
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 03:12 PM
Sep 2023

When I watched 8 men struggle to get that casket in the Church door. A cremated body is that heavy?

Takket

(23,715 posts)
33. i don't think Putin and MBS are going to consent to a search, so they're gone forever...
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 09:20 PM
Sep 2023

magicarpet

(18,509 posts)
15. Who knew,....
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 08:39 PM
Sep 2023

Espionage is a cash cow that far supersedes the meager returns of a well balanced and deversified investment portfolio.

Top secret shit is worth big bucks if you locate the right client.

AverageOldGuy

(3,835 posts)
20. I served 28 years in the Army . .
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 08:59 PM
Sep 2023

. . . initially I was an artillery officer, served as forward observer in Vietnam, wounded.

Wounds caught up with me, I transferred to Military Intelligence branch, did 20 years in intell with access to a few special access programs and other material at highest levels of classification.

If I had taken ONE page with me, I would still be breaking rocks at the military prison at Fort Leavenworth KS.

And now we learn that Trump has ANOTHER OFFICE about a mile from M-A-L, where witnesses say there are boxes everywhere.

Excuse me but I am pissed off.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,511 posts)
38. Right there with you.
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 09:33 PM
Sep 2023

My brother was Army intelligence and fought in Desert Storm.

I was a Navy wife and we were all one family in Norfolk.

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
54. So am I. First we learn that the FBI did not want to search MAL, then we learn that no other
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 08:41 AM
Sep 2023

property has been searched even with Trump waving around classified documents in public at Bedminster. Now we know he stole 3500 pages of classified documents! And he’s walking around free to continue sharing top-secret intelligence data with anyone in the world via untraceable burner phones. The extra office may well be photocopies of the documents he stole so he would have a backup.

lastlib

(28,262 posts)
67. Count me pissed too! (and I have less reason to be than you!)
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 03:02 PM
Sep 2023

That basturd's trial should be OVER and done by now, including sentencing! He needs to be booked into a small room at the aforementioned resort in Leavenworth. The sooner that happens, the better off the country will be.

republianmushroom

(22,325 posts)
22. And some in the FBI didn't want to search Mar-a-lago.
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 09:04 PM
Sep 2023

Is she sure that they have recovered them all ? Is there another 3,500 pages stashed else where ?

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
28. At this point in time,
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 09:16 PM
Sep 2023

it would seem that Loose Cannon doesn't want to go down with the ship, ya gotta wonder if maybe some of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals judges reminded her of what happened the last time a bad decision by her was appealed and how it would affect an appeal from the Special Counsel on a future issue.

usaf-vet

(7,811 posts)
29. Did the Judge just flip? She saw the iceberg ahead and doesn't want to go down with the SS TFG?
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 09:17 PM
Sep 2023

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
31. I suspect he hoarded a lot more than that, but those are the ones the DOJ are
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 09:18 PM
Sep 2023

willing to release in a court of law. There will be more that, for security reasons, will not allow to see the light of day in court or otherwise.

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
34. If counter intel could find JUST ONE for sale and buy it back
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 09:25 PM
Sep 2023

with sharpie marks all over it and some note of his.
I'm hoping.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,511 posts)
36. This is insanity
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 09:30 PM
Sep 2023

The Repugs/MAGAts supporting this disgusting criminal should go to prison with him.

There is NO WAY he steals another election.

I wonder if Slobby will demand his handmaiden recuse.

yorkster

(3,832 posts)
40. Between the 3500 pages and the no name office on
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 09:57 PM
Sep 2023

North Flagler Drive in West Palm, packed with documents no doubt, why is there almost nothing about this on broadcast media?

Gawd knows what we don't know, yet anyway...

Thx.

Moosepoop

(2,075 posts)
42. Does anyone know where to find the reference to 3500 pages?
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 10:31 PM
Sep 2023

I've read the entire ruling (including the footnotes) very carefully, and cannot find any mention of the number of documents at issue.

I also did a word search of the ruling, searching for the number 3500, the number 3, the word three, the word thousand, and the word pages... with no results.

Does anyone have more info on what "Spiro's Ghost" is referring to? I'm not on X or Twitter or whatever you call it, so I can't see any further commentary by "Spiro's Ghost" on the subject, or any replies to him/her.

Right now, I'm leery of his/her claim. Thanks to anyone who might have more info!

Moosepoop

(2,075 posts)
46. Thank you so much!!!
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 11:05 PM
Sep 2023

That's a different document (#153) than the one in the OP that I had searched through (#150).

I really appreciate it!!!

crickets

(26,168 posts)
47. Found a link to the pdf
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 11:06 PM
Sep 2023
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490069/153/united-states-v-trump/

2nd footnote on p2.

Found through rawstory (I know) and their link to a twitter thread by legal analyst Lisa Rubin.
https://www.rawstory.com/cannon-documents-no-delay/

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1702080142762230140.html


Eta - Yikes, I am so slow. I do not like trying to browse and post on my phone. 🤭

crickets

(26,168 posts)
53. You're welcome!
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 11:14 PM
Sep 2023

Thanks for getting me to look for it. Now I have it bookmarked. ✔️

UpInArms

(54,977 posts)
49. Footnote number 2
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 11:10 PM
Sep 2023
As acknowledged by the Special Counsel, the classified information in this case, described on September 12, 2023, as consisting of approximately 3,500 pages classified at various levels, is discoverable information pursuant to Rule 16(a)(1)(E).


(My bold)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.153.0_1.pdf

AllaN01Bear

(29,486 posts)
43. my fluffing goodness. eek. treson.
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 10:43 PM
Sep 2023

i wonder how many dumpster fire sold or gave away to or enemy's

onenote

(46,140 posts)
45. we already knew there were at least 102 documents at issue.
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 10:59 PM
Sep 2023

And that's not counting the 38 documents turned over in June 2022 in response to the subpoena or the 197 documents turned over in January 2022.

If only the 102 are taken into account, its an average of around 35 pages per document. If all of the documents (337) are considered, then its an average of 10 or so pages.

orleans

(36,916 posts)
52. it took her a fucking month (according to lawrence o'donnell & guests) to essentially put her name
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 11:13 PM
Sep 2023

on this filing from jack smith.

a month?

here's aileen running out the clock

(maybe she decided to count all the pages just to double check jack smith: two thousand eight hundred and fifty six, two thousand eight hundred and fifty seven, two thousand eight hundred and fifty eight... )



onenote

(46,140 posts)
55. It took around two weeks.
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 08:50 AM
Sep 2023

Smith's motion was filed on August 18 and Trump was given, per the rules governing motions, two weeks to respond.

moniss

(9,056 posts)
56. Just think of what might still be at the
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 09:19 AM
Sep 2023

"other" office, Bedminster, tucked in with Ivanna etc. and to then wonder how many they had to start with and "transferred" custody of to bad actors.

jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
58. The real irony
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 09:41 AM
Sep 2023

He didn’t even read a single document they put in front of him as president!

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
64. A special episode of Hoarders. Donald J. Trump and all of his storage lockers/offices.
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 10:55 AM
Sep 2023

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
66. How many of those pages
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 11:19 AM
Sep 2023

Has he shared with our foreign enemies? How about our domestic enemies?

The guy should face a firing squad.

Midnight Writer

(25,410 posts)
74. There must be a mistake. I just watched the news and all they talked about was Hunter Biden.
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 05:07 PM
Sep 2023

Surely this is more newsworthy than a common citizen fudging an entry on a gun form.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
76. Were any documents scanned to a computer?
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 05:52 PM
Sep 2023

Has anyone outside of the location accessed computers?

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